London fans upset at not running up the score?

[lurker1965]

Like a minute and two seconds left. Hoyer comes in as the Patriots take over on downs at the Bucs 11 or 13.

Was it me, or did the crowd boo when they saw the kneel down formation. They WANTED another score.

 

[ALP]

I WANTED another score....


i doubt BB gave a damn though

 

[goldspeed101]

there were boos when we were running the ball with hoyer in

 

[Scouse Patriot]

It was a mixture of wanting the team to actively try to score again and the Bucs fans in the crowd just straight booing the Pats.

 

[Draper]

Makes sense. Their teams (soccer) don't lay down when they're ahead. They don't understand our flawed concept of sportsmanship (and I don't blame them).

 

[SammyBlueCat]

Let's give the young Bucs credit. Unlike the Titans, they were constantly trying to make plays. The Titans took a dive and were standing around watching the Patriots run by them.

 

[SVN]

i want to see the media mentioning this after constantly berating the running up the score argument all last week

 

[GroganCountry]

They were booing. They did it the past two seasons also when games were played there. Either they don't "get it", or don't care and just want to see offense.

 

[IcyPatriot]

I missed most of the game ... were they throwing crumpets?

 

[NickOGS20]

Makes sense. Their teams (soccer) don't lay down when they're ahead. They don't understand our flawed concept of sportsmanship (and I don't blame them).

Yeah, was gonna say. The whole concept of running up the score being a bad thing is absolutely alien over here. Very much an attitude of 'if teams don't like being hammered it's up to them to stop it, not the superior team to call off the dogs'. If any soccer coach over here came out and complained about being beaten 5/6-0 they would be mercilessly mocked.

 

[bostonia3333]

I think the british aren't really familiar with downing the ball and what it means. They probably just want the usual game pace to just continue and get their money's worth

 

[Higgins86]

It will never be understood in the uk. Rugby is the closet sport to american football and in rugby it is the team's goal to destroy the opposition. If they walk on the field with them they are fair game!

 

[Draper]

It will never be understood in the uk. Rugby is the closet sport to american football and in rugby it is the team's goal to destroy the opposition. If they walk on the field with them they are fair game!

We could learn a thing or two...

 

[NickOGS20]

I think the british aren't really familiar with downing the ball and what it means. They probably just want the usual game pace to just continue and get their money's worth

I think most that were there know the deal with taking a knee and the reasons why, it's just a foreign concept (literally I guess). I guess the rugby comparison above is apt - even if a Premier League rugby team were up by 50/60, if they forced a turnover with a minute to go they'd still be looking to run in a score.

Think the uproar that occurs when teams in the NFL 'run up the score' is even more of an alien concept. Took me a while to get my head round it and I still hate it.

 

[Scouse Patriot]

I think the british aren't really familiar with downing the ball and what it means. They probably just want the usual game pace to just continue and get their money's worth

What you have to remember is 98% of the crowds at Wembley are fans and know the idea of clock management. Like I said earlier it is a mixture of our attitude to sport and the Bucs fans booing the Patriots. It's just the way it is here, there is no running up the score, it's simply if you can't keep up then thats your fault for being sh!t.

 

[upstater1]

Yeah, was gonna say. The whole concept of running up the score being a bad thing is absolutely alien over here. Very much an attitude of 'if teams don't like being hammered it's up to them to stop it, not the superior team to call off the dogs'. If any soccer coach over here came out and complained about being beaten 5/6-0 they would be mercilessly mocked.

It's not that. It's the fact that time is kept differently in both games. There is no 35 second clock in soccer. In football, running out the clock equals winning. This is no different than defending more with a three goal lead. Don't tell me Europeans don't do that in soccer.

 

[NickOGS20]

It's not that. It's the fact that time is kept differently in both games. There is no 35 second clock in soccer. In football, running out the clock equals winning. This is no different than defending more with a three goal lead. Don't tell me Europeans don't do that in soccer.

Obviously there's differences (the use of goal/point difference in soccer/rugby is another) but it's the same mentality. We're not talking about taking knees when 10-7 up - obviously that makes sense and would be the equivalent of a soccer team pulling everyone back in the last few minutes when defending a 1-0 lead. We're talking about taking knees at 35-7, with the game already won.

It's pretty rare teams defend more when 3-0 up or more with time running out. There's usually an element of taking it easy but they have freedom to play and often go for more goals, especially if the other team is pushing forward looking for more goals and can be caught with a sucker punch on the counter attack.

I'm talking about running up the score being an alien concept, not running out the clock.

 

[upstater1]

It will never be understood in the uk. Rugby is the closet sport to american football and in rugby it is the team's goal to destroy the opposition. If they walk on the field with them they are fair game!

When we used to get a lead in Rugby, we kept the ball in the pack.

The same thing happens in most sports I can think of. Big lead, you let the air out of the ball and let time run out. Soccer it's the same thing.

 

[upstater1]

Obviously there's differences (the use of goal/point difference in soccer/rugby is another) but it's the same mentality. We're not talking about taking knees when 10-7 up - obviously that makes sense and would be the equivalent of a soccer team pulling everyone back in the last few minutes when defending a 1-0 lead. We're talking about taking knees at 35-7, with the game already won.

It's pretty rare teams defend more when 3-0 up or more with time running out. There's usually an element of taking it easy but they have freedom to play and often go for more goals, especially if the other team is pushing forward looking for more goals and can be caught with a sucker punch on the counter attack.

I'm talking about running up the score being an alien concept, not running out the clock.

I see what you're saying but I was referencing today's game. I don't think Belichick tries to stop scoring to take it easy on the other team. You put in backups to gain experience, and if your stars get hurt when you're trying to run it up, then you probably not that smart of a coach. Players on defense are more susceptible to injury. I think any coach with a big lead will try to stay on offense as long as possible.

I don't think there's that much regard for not running up the score as much as there is for injuries.

 

[BennyBledsoe]

You'd figure the American 'gung-ho' attitude would translate into more blowouts and less playing 'nice' and not the other way around.

I wonder what 'nice' is a remnant of? The early Ivy League/Victorian sensibility?