Do we need to do something about the #3 wideout?

[RobertWeathers]

How about one or two of our 2nd round picks next year? Imagine a Moss, Chad, and Welker combo?

he'll be 32 at the start of the season....Not sure dishing a 2nd is a wise move. Plus his contract goes to 2011 would need to renego.

 

[condon84]

he'll be 32 at the start of the season....Not sure dishing a 2nd is a wise move. Plus his contract goes to 2011 would need to renego.

He's a legit #1 WR and drafting is not an exact science. I'd rather take someone like him that you know can play and have him for a good 3-4 years with Brady than taking a chance on a second round pick who might not even pan out, especially since we already have 3 second round picks next year.

 

[RobertWeathers]

He's a legit #1 WR and drafting is not an exact science. I'd rather take someone like him that you know can play and have him for a good 3-4 years with Brady than taking a chance on a second round pick who might not even pan out, especially since we already have 3 second round picks next year.

I agree. Just saying a 2nd rounder is a pretty big chip for a 32 year old w/ a big contract.

Would love to see Ocho on the Pats. I think he'd be ok here actually.

 

[ricogatenby99]

I actually really liked Stallworth opposite Moss, I thought he was dangerous, but you have to give Galloway more time, cant just get rid after 4 games, obviously, if he continues to drop passes etc, then there is no choice, but I give him untill weeks 8-10

 

[HarkDawg]

Galloway + a 2nd rounder for Ochocinco?

OCHO and bill have Chemistry. I would love Ocho w/ the Patriots.




YouTube - Chad Ocho Cinco and Bill Belichick

 

[Synovia]

Also, yes, Tate s/b activated.

You shouldn't waste a 3rd on a guy who doesn't even get on the field when he's healthy enough to. By then we'll probably have someone on IR, or maybe Galloway (who has lost his way) will be cut.

Do you really think Tate, after 6 weeks on the PUP, and being a rookie receiver, is going to be better than anyone?

Tate is WR #3 in 2010. Week 7 in 2009, Nunn, Edelman, Aiken, and Galloway will all be better players and know the offense than him.

 

[HarkDawg]

Trade Galloway..... It is Nunn's turn

 

[BradyManny]

Deactivations are sometimes magical in effect though. Anyone who watched the Steelers running game knows this...

I hope you're right - and it could be the case. I thought Galloway has done a couple good things this season that were overlooked (he got open against ATL and Brady misfired). My only concern is - it's not like he [Galloway] hasn't been putting in the work. He's working hard, he's got a good attitude. I keep saying it'll click at some point...let's just hope its soon.

 

[BradyManny]

It'll be interesting to see who the bring to Denver. Denver has a pretty decent secondary and a ok run defense. Do they go the same route as they did for BAL (4 WRs and 3 TEs) or go with 5 WR? Not sure.

Yeah, it will be interesting - I would lean towards a more varied approach like we've seen the last 2 weeks, which would lend itself to 4 WRs. We ran right over Denver last year, and maybe can do likewise this season.

Still, I really want to see Galloway active (and as JsN said, in both senses of the word).

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Trade Galloway..... It is Nunn's turn

Galloway won't be traded,He probably does not even have enough in the tank to get a 7th rounder at this point with nothing showing on the field and being well up in age - If anything,he is cut and Nunn is called up to take place on the roster.

 

[sieglo]

Eight Five.

 

[livinginthe past]

Give Galloway more time for the love of god.

If he was suffering from a terminal inability to get open then i'd agree with cutting him.

With Welker soon to return to full fitness we need a vet receiver at WR to take some heat off Moss on the deep routes.

All the stuff Galloway has done wrong is correctable - one should remember how ineffective Brady had been weeks 1-3 at throwing deep passes.

With Brady back in full cry a healthy vet like galloway will prove invaluable.

I'm not saying that pre-season wonders like Nunn can't become success stories - i'm just saying that data most people on here are basing his talent level on (pre-season match-ups) is hugely flawed.

The grass isnt always greener, Patsfans.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Give Galloway more time for the love of god.

If he was suffering from a terminal inability to get open then i'd agree with cutting him.

With Welker soon to return to full fitness we need a vet receiver at WR to take some heat off Moss on the deep routes.

All the stuff Galloway has done wrong is correctable - one should remember how ineffective Brady had been weeks 1-3 at throwing deep passes.

With Brady back in full cry a healthy vet like galloway will prove invaluable.

I'm not saying that pre-season wonders like Nunn can't become success stories - i'm just saying that data most people on here are basing his talent level on (pre-season match-ups) is hugely flawed.

The grass isnt always greener, Patsfans.

Galloway is not a rookie,We are talking about a long term veteran WR who has caught passes from more than one QB in Tampa,Dallas and Seattle - You can give a rookie or even a two or three year player time to develop but saying Galloway needs time as a 10 year veteran who amassed more than 10,000 yards to develop a sync with Brady is just reaching for the stars,If it was going to click it between them it probably would have been long ago.

I think Galloway is simply a guy like Marvin Harrison and Troy Brown who had seen their best years pass them by,they slowed down and were not really much of a factor anymore for whatever reasons they were besides speed and age.

We waited and waited for guys like Chad Jackson and Bethel Johnson to come around...they never did and to think it would take a 10 year veteran half a season to get patterns down right in NE is proposterous let alone a 2 year player.

 

[mgteich]

I didn't vote. The choices are not mutually exclusive.

As far as trading or signing someone else, that is unnecessary.

 

[mesoslo]

We need a guy who can eventually replace randy moss. At a #3wr he can learn from randy moss directly.

With a QB like brady adding more talent at WR is just a bonus with brady as your QB.

 

[mayoclinic]

I didn't vote. The choices are not mutually exclusive.

As far as trading or signing someone else, that is unnecessary.

I agree. For the next 3 weeks I think we do some combination of:

a) Galloway as the 3rd WR.
b) Welker and Edelman at the same time.
c) 2 TE sets. Watson can help stretch the field.

If Edelman has shown no improvement by the bye week the I think we either activate Tate (if healthy) or promote Nunn - not that I would expect much from either, but it would give them experience going into 2010.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

I hope you're right - and it could be the case. I thought Galloway has done a couple good things this season that were overlooked (he got open against ATL and Brady misfired). My only concern is - it's not like he [Galloway] hasn't been putting in the work. He's working hard, he's got a good attitude. I keep saying it'll click at some point...let's just hope its soon.

I would love to see Galloway blend into the system. Hopefully it turns out better than the Doug Gabriel type experiences we have seen before. It would be great if he sticks around and starts playing good by the end of the season. I also like to keep using Edelman in the meantime, so he gets experience.

It seems to take some special wideouts to learn the Pat's offense and also get in synch with Brady. The only big guy we have had that worked out is Moss so far...

Strange that guys can be talented and look the part at WR but still fail to even crack this gameday roster with Brady's offense, and then no-name guys and even late draft picks can make the roster...

 

[BradyFTW!]

Tate hasn't practiced with the team... or with any team for that matter, since he's a rookie- he's not going to come off the PUP and immediately contribute in a significant role. IMO Nunn comes first, and even Aiken might get in ahead of Tate, although we need Aiken for his ST first and foremost. I'd say Nunn is the most likely option, followed by a Gaffney-esque midseason deal. Either way, though, it's hard to believe that Galloway just forgot how to catch a football. Your hands don't turn bad overnight after being good for 2 decades. The issue is clearly that he isn't comfortable in the offense yet, which is something that can usually be fixed with time. Gotta give him some more time, though if he doesn't put it together very soon then he's gotta go.

 

[livinginthe past]

Galloway is not a rookie,We are talking about a long term veteran WR who has caught passes from more than one QB in Tampa,Dallas and Seattle - You can give a rookie or even a two or three year player time to develop but saying Galloway needs time as a 10 year veteran who amassed more than 10,000 yards to develop a sync with Brady is just reaching for the stars,If it was going to click it between them it probably would have been long ago.

I'm well aware that Galloway is not a rookie - the very fact that he isn't means that he has spent alot of times in systems probably very different to the New England set-up.

How do you define 'long ago'?

Seriously - he's played 3 meaningful games with Brady, and a struggling Brady at that.

Do you mean 'long ago' as in game 1...ie the first game they played together?

I think Galloway is simply a guy like Marvin Harrison and Troy Brown who had seen their best years pass them by,they slowed down and were not really much of a factor anymore for whatever reasons they were besides speed and age.

Galloway still has his speed - he's made some poor plays - probably a result of thinking too much and not playing instinctively

Marvin Harrison is out of the league because he wants too much money.

We waited and waited for guys like Chad Jackson and Bethel Johnson to come around...they never did and to think it would take a 10 year veteran half a season to get patterns down right in NE is proposterous let alone a 2 year player.

Again 'half a season' is 8 games - the actual amount of time they have played together is 3 games or less than 19% of a season.

Guys like you always have to exaggerate or mislead in order to make your points.

Chad Jackson and Bethel Johnson never did show any aptitude to understand the complexities of an NFL defense.

Galloway clearly has - as you've already noted he has played under multiple QB's and been successful - I would understand that to mean he has had to vary his game to suit each QB.

You can't question his mental ability to process NFL offenses - he's already proven he can do it.

You can question his physical ability - but then i'd suggest that his failings (flinching on a TD catch, stepping out of bounds before catching a TD) are merely mental lapses.

I have seen no evidence of a serious deterioration of his physical skill set.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

I'm well aware that Galloway is not a rookie - the very fact that he isn't means that he has spent alot of times in systems probably very different to the New England set-up.

How do you define 'long ago'?

Seriously - he's played 3 meaningful games with Brady, and a struggling Brady at that.

Do you mean 'long ago' as in game 1...ie the first game they played together?



Galloway still has his speed - he's made some poor plays - probably a result of thinking too much and not playing instinctively

Marvin Harrison is out of the league because he wants too much money.



Again 'half a season' is 8 games - the actual amount of time they have played together is 3 games or less than 19% of a season.

Guys like you always have to exaggerate or mislead in order to make your points.

Chad Jackson and Bethel Johnson never did show any aptitude to understand the complexities of an NFL defense.

Galloway clearly has - as you've already noted he has played under multiple QB's and been successful - I would understand that to mean he has had to vary his game to suit each QB.

You can't question his mental ability to process NFL offenses - he's already proven he can do it.

You can question his physical ability - but then i'd suggest that his failings (flinching on a TD catch, stepping out of bounds before catching a TD) are merely mental lapses.

I have seen no evidence of a serious deterioration of his physical skill set.

Name me five wide receivers in thier late 30s that have made a huge impact on thier NEW team since 2000? (late 30s = 36 or older)

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