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I though he was drafted at #34 because he was such a special teams dynamo. Where was Chung and why?
 
I though he was drafted at #34 because he was such a special teams dynamo. Where was Chung and why?

You must have missed him getting scorched by the G-men?
 
I though he was drafted at #34 because he was such a special teams dynamo. Where was Chung and why?

Like Brace and Pryor, Chung will debut Sunday against the Jets. Jets don't have a big, bruising running game, but have slashers like Washington and Jones. Chung will figure prominently in our defense's gameplan.

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I though he was drafted at #34 because he was such a special teams dynamo. Where was Chung and why?

What is the point of these threads?

To show how smug and arrogant you can be?
 
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I though he was drafted at #34 because he was such a special teams dynamo. Where was Chung and why?

Did we have a bad specials team performance against the best S/T in the NFL?

.......what's your point?.......He might have recovered McKelvin's fumble faster than Ghost?
 
Why is it arrogant to ask why a player many here thought would be a major contributer was on the bench?

What is the point of these threads?

To show how smug and arrogant you can be?
 
Against the giants, Chung showed that he couldn't cover out on an island. I thought that he was going well on special teams, apparently that isn't the case.

You must have missed him getting scorched by the G-men?
 
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Why is it arrogant to ask why a player many here thought would be a major contributer was on the bench?

When you do it for each player and do so in a mocking tone, it ceases to be curiosity and becomes smugness.

Though, I am sure you are aware of this.
 
I agree with you.

Chung is not one of our top special teamers, as many thought he would be. He is not even good enough at this point to be on the field. It seems that Chung is a developmental safety AND special teamer. That's fine. Youngsters have different learning curves.

Did we have a bad specials team performance against the best S/T in the NFL?

.......what's your point?.......He might have recovered McKelvin's fumble faster than Ghost?
 
I agree with you.

Chung is not one of our top special teamers, as many thought he would be. He is not even good enough at this point to be on the field. It seems that Chung is a developmental safety AND special teamer. That's fine. Youngsters have different learning curves.

this is totally absurd. you make a judgment based on one game?

this is the opposite of the ben watson love threads based on one game.
 
I though he was drafted at #34 because he was such a special teams dynamo. Where was Chung and why?
Where was Meriweather, drafted #23, after his first game ? And since when was Chung drafted because of special teams ? He was drafted to develop as a starting Safety. We are deep there right now. I guess I would like him to be ahead of McGowan, and a good LB might look good instead of Chung but it can't be helped that two ILB are out. Belichick plays guys when they're ready; sometimes that's game one, sometimes it's not. The fact that he can help on special teams is a bonus but not the reason he was drafted.
 
I'm fine with Chung taking a year to develop. I ask the question because I believe that many thought that he would be contributing early on special teams.

Absent injuries, there is no reason for rookies to be expected to contribute a lot in their first year.

Where was Meriweather, drafted #23, after his first game ? And since when was Chung drafted because of special teams ? He was drafted to develop as a starting Safety. We are deep there right now. I guess I would like him to be ahead of McGowan, and a good LB might look good instead of Chung but it can't be helped that two ILB are out. Belichick plays guys when they're ready; sometimes that's game one, sometimes it's not. The fact that he can help on special teams is a bonus but not the reason he was drafted.
 
I was at the game (and memory may be a little hazy), but I thought Chung made a solo tackle on special teams sometime in the 3rd quarter. I think it was right after Buffalo kicked off after the field goal. Not a whole lot of action to hang his hat on, but I thought he made a pretty good play.
 
I'm fine with Chung taking a year to develop. I ask the question because I believe that many thought that he would be contributing early on special teams.

Absent injuries, there is no reason for rookies to be expected to contribute a lot in their first year.
Butler was in for 1/3 of the defensive plays according to Reiss. But, sure, I think we all knew it wasn't a team needing a ton of starters. Chung is playing on ST (admittedly I don't know how many) and all four of the 2nd rounders looked good in camp. From there, we'll see. If the injury bug had hit at Safety and not ILB then he'd already be playing.
 
When you do it for each player and do so in a mocking tone, it ceases to be curiosity and becomes smugness.

Though, I am sure you are aware of this.

I don't know. A wise man once told me that some people look in the mirror and see what they want to see. ;)
 
I'm fine with Chung taking a year to develop. I ask the question because I believe that many thought that he would be contributing early on special teams.

Absent injuries, there is no reason for rookies to be expected to contribute a lot in their first year.

Let's see at the end of the season how much Chung has contributed, not at the end of the first game.

BB is notoriously conservative about bringing along rookies, with relatively few exceptions, such as Mayo, which was partly out of necessity. There is no urgency to rush the rookies in, so I'm not surprised that he is taking the conservative approach. That's his track record.

Do I think that Brace, Chung, Butler and Vollmer are all capable of playing and contributing sooner rather than later? Yes. Louis Delmas started for Detroit on Sunday and made a 65 yard nice fumble return for a TD. I preferred Delmas to Chung, but they are comparable talents. I have no doubt that Chung could play and contribute. But he would also make rookie mistakes, and we have a far different level of talent than Detroit.

As far as ST goes, we may well see Chung. BB has a history of valuing players who are good STers, and Chung had that reputation. I don't think anyone expected him to come in and immediately become the core of our ST focus, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him contribute substantially over the course of the season, as he earns playing time. That's what happened with Meriweather, who didn't do too poorly for us on STs Monday night.

As with Ron Brace and Darius Butler, I consider Chung to be much more talented with a much higher ceiling than the player who is currently starting ahead of him. Therefore I look forward to seeing him get playing time as soon as BB is comfortable, and I hope that that will be sooner rather than later. That's all. There's no fixed timeframe.
 
I agree with you.

Chung is not one of our top special teamers, as many thought he would be. He is not even good enough at this point to be on the field. It seems that Chung is a developmental safety AND special teamer. That's fine. Youngsters have different learning curves.


Chung absolutely nailed some guy the other night on special teams. But its not like we were lighting up the scoreboards all night and had a ton of chances to cover kicks/punts. We punted once. We kicked off a handful of times and he had one of the tackles. Several other guys on ST cant make that claim.
 
Let's see at the end of the season how much Chung has contributed, not at the end of the first game.

BB is notoriously conservative about bringing along rookies, with relatively few exceptions, such as Mayo, which was partly out of necessity. There is no urgency to rush the rookies in, so I'm not surprised that he is taking the conservative approach. That's his track record.

Do I think that Brace, Chung, Butler and Vollmer are all capable of playing and contributing sooner rather than later? Yes. Louis Delmas started for Detroit on Sunday and made a 65 yard nice fumble return for a TD. I preferred Delmas to Chung, but they are comparable talents. I have no doubt that Chung could play and contribute. But he would also make rookie mistakes, and we have a far different level of talent than Detroit.

As far as ST goes, we may well see Chung. BB has a history of valuing players who are good STers, and Chung had that reputation. I don't think anyone expected him to come in and immediately become the core of our ST focus, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him contribute substantially over the course of the season, as he earns playing time. That's what happened with Meriweather, who didn't do too poorly for us on STs Monday night.

As with Ron Brace and Darius Butler, I consider Chung to be much more talented with a much higher ceiling than the player who is currently starting ahead of him. Therefore I look forward to seeing him get playing time as soon as BB is comfortable, and I hope that that will be sooner rather than later. That's all. There's no fixed timeframe.


Exactly. Its been one week. Its tough to rationalize how someone could actually even begin to assess a rookie's contributions after one whole game.
 
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I agree that Butler and Vollmer are contributing now and should be expected to contineu to do so. Personally, I think that Chung and Brace need a bit of time to develop. But that's absolutely fine!

And the wildcard is Pryor.

Let's see at the end of the season how much Chung has contributed, not at the end of the first game.

BB is notoriously conservative about bringing along rookies, with relatively few exceptions, such as Mayo, which was partly out of necessity. There is no urgency to rush the rookies in, so I'm not surprised that he is taking the conservative approach. That's his track record.

Do I think that Brace, Chung, Butler and Vollmer are all capable of playing and contributing sooner rather than later? Yes. Louis Delmas started for Detroit on Sunday and made a 65 yard nice fumble return for a TD. I preferred Delmas to Chung, but they are comparable talents. I have no doubt that Chung could play and contribute. But he would also make rookie mistakes, and we have a far different level of talent than Detroit.

As far as ST goes, we may well see Chung. BB has a history of valuing players who are good STers, and Chung had that reputation. I don't think anyone expected him to come in and immediately become the core of our ST focus, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him contribute substantially over the course of the season, as he earns playing time. That's what happened with Meriweather, who didn't do too poorly for us on STs Monday night.

As with Ron Brace and Darius Butler, I consider Chung to be much more talented with a much higher ceiling than the player who is currently starting ahead of him. Therefore I look forward to seeing him get playing time as soon as BB is comfortable, and I hope that that will be sooner rather than later. That's all. There's no fixed timeframe.
 
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