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I cannot understand the love for 4-3 in this forum or in most places.Can some explain the love
3-4
1) Alot of presnap movement with your OLB walking around and safety running around forcing the OL and QB to pick a Mike which splits the protection set by the center. Confusing both as OLB can play DE. Bring a ILB or Safety on a Zone blitz.
2)In a unique defence setup like ours where we have AD who can play DE,DT,OLB,ILB we have a stud guy to walk,move premove causing confusion. Woods gives us the same in a minor scale but he can pick Up rb / te or rush the passer.We can even drop both OLB and send Mayo or Guyton on a rush.
3)In 3-4 the TE/RB and Rush is switched between OLB,ILB and Safety.IN 3 safety formation we are a Nickle heavy enough to stop the run .
4-3
1)Ends rush and tackle presure from inside on most downs where a blitzer is NOT send. Unless every down we are blitzing leaving some one open we are playing with a risk that the blitz does not get picked up or the qb is just bad.
2) Picking the mike LB is easy and the center protection is same unless we blitz.
3)Too much blitzing means 4 quater the defence wears down and in our basic set we are helping qb and center .
4)We do not have a speed demon edge rusher but i am told we have great DT but could someone tell me who compares to the other DL i see with no speed rushers - tuck , osi , coppfield ,Mathias Kiwanuka, Dave Tollefson, Robert Henderson, Chris Canty, Barry Cofield, Rocky Bernard, Fred Robbins.
the gaints have speed DL ends 4 and then 4 good tackles and rotate them all game.In 3rd long they put 3 DE speedy DT in their to create pressure.I might be blind in seeing such a line.
5)Mayo - Plays MILB in 3-4 and was a DROY ,he will be better in this role - i think
Guyton _ play good but struggled at times .I expect him to improve in the second year in the same system.
woods - Never Played LB in $4-3 he was DE in college
Thomas - Same and also he is extreamly fast for a 270 lb OLB but extremely slow compared to a 235-240 LB OLB in a 4-3.
Rob - DE in college and OLB in training camp.Cannot backup in 4-3
tubby cain - DE pass rusher do not ask him to coverage.SF found out he is a rushing end - Not a Backup in 4-3
burgess - DE wh0 cannot back the above in 4-3
We use 2 LB in 4-3 put them with all DE to play LB in a 4-3
I just do not see the love for the 4-3 . Some claim we do not have the awesome talent in LB but we are weak at DL too. anyway i am curious as to the love for the 4-3 .Sanchez and co had a easy time as he has seen enough 4-3 and also the ends rush and dt try pushing forward. unless we bring someone up from coverage you will have time in most times.
3-4
1) Alot of presnap movement with your OLB walking around and safety running around forcing the OL and QB to pick a Mike which splits the protection set by the center. Confusing both as OLB can play DE. Bring a ILB or Safety on a Zone blitz.
2)In a unique defence setup like ours where we have AD who can play DE,DT,OLB,ILB we have a stud guy to walk,move premove causing confusion. Woods gives us the same in a minor scale but he can pick Up rb / te or rush the passer.We can even drop both OLB and send Mayo or Guyton on a rush.
3)In 3-4 the TE/RB and Rush is switched between OLB,ILB and Safety.IN 3 safety formation we are a Nickle heavy enough to stop the run .
4-3
1)Ends rush and tackle presure from inside on most downs where a blitzer is NOT send. Unless every down we are blitzing leaving some one open we are playing with a risk that the blitz does not get picked up or the qb is just bad.
2) Picking the mike LB is easy and the center protection is same unless we blitz.
3)Too much blitzing means 4 quater the defence wears down and in our basic set we are helping qb and center .
4)We do not have a speed demon edge rusher but i am told we have great DT but could someone tell me who compares to the other DL i see with no speed rushers - tuck , osi , coppfield ,Mathias Kiwanuka, Dave Tollefson, Robert Henderson, Chris Canty, Barry Cofield, Rocky Bernard, Fred Robbins.
the gaints have speed DL ends 4 and then 4 good tackles and rotate them all game.In 3rd long they put 3 DE speedy DT in their to create pressure.I might be blind in seeing such a line.
5)Mayo - Plays MILB in 3-4 and was a DROY ,he will be better in this role - i think
Guyton _ play good but struggled at times .I expect him to improve in the second year in the same system.
woods - Never Played LB in $4-3 he was DE in college
Thomas - Same and also he is extreamly fast for a 270 lb OLB but extremely slow compared to a 235-240 LB OLB in a 4-3.
Rob - DE in college and OLB in training camp.Cannot backup in 4-3
tubby cain - DE pass rusher do not ask him to coverage.SF found out he is a rushing end - Not a Backup in 4-3
burgess - DE wh0 cannot back the above in 4-3
We use 2 LB in 4-3 put them with all DE to play LB in a 4-3
I just do not see the love for the 4-3 . Some claim we do not have the awesome talent in LB but we are weak at DL too. anyway i am curious as to the love for the 4-3 .Sanchez and co had a easy time as he has seen enough 4-3 and also the ends rush and dt try pushing forward. unless we bring someone up from coverage you will have time in most times.
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