It's a secret: Steelers cut players but won't reveal who

[NEGoldenAge]

I did read. Perhaps you should try doing so as well. As for the rest, I have no need to deal with yet another troll from another team. So, off to the land of ignore for you.

Reading and comprehension are two completely different things. I'm sure she read it, but......

I never knew California accepted reject from PA.... must be a little light in the loafers or somethin. Either way, that troll won't be getting any more food from me either.

 

[BradyFTW!]

irony is funny.

by the way the native city of the poster is listed under the poster's name. keep working towards that GED.

Just answer this: If Belichick did the exact same thing, what would your reaction be? What do you think the reactions of fans around the NFL would be? I don't see anything wrong with this move, and I definitely get why the Steelers did it. In fact, IMO the only mistake that Tomlin made was in bothering to talk about it- he can announce the cuts whenever he damn well pleases, and doesn't have to answer to anyone. That said, I do see a little humor in how much differently it's being perceived simply because it's Tomlin doing it instead of Big Bad Belichick.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

:trolls:
:spygate:

 

[IcyPatriot]

If the day to reveal them is Saturday ... seems they have the right to do what they want including cutting the players at the last hour. So the agents of these guys get to call teams and shop them?

 

[qbert]

Just answer this: If Belichick did the exact same thing, what would your reaction be? What do you think the reactions of fans around the NFL would be? I don't see anything wrong with this move, and I definitely get why the Steelers did it. That said, I do see a little humor in how much differently it's being perceived simply because it's Tomlin doing it instead of Big Bad Belichick.

honestly, i wouldn't really care and wouldn't devote an entire thread to it. sure, belichick would probably get the double standard treatment because he is characterized as an ultra-competitive, win-at-all-costs guy. But I don't think his internal motivation would be any different from Tomlin's in this case, both would probably want to treat their last cuts as humanely as possible, maximize the chances they could sign them to their own PS, and not put himself at a competitive disadvantage by releasing information earlier than necessary.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

Just answer this: If Belichick did the exact same thing, what would your reaction be? What do you think the reactions of fans around the NFL would be? I don't see anything wrong with this move, and I definitely get why the Steelers did it. In fact, IMO the only mistake that Tomlin made was in bothering to talk about it- he can announce the cuts whenever he damn well pleases, and doesn't have to answer to anyone. That said, I do see a little humor in how much differently it's being perceived simply because it's Tomlin doing it instead of Big Bad Belichick.

Ironically, BB purposefully goes out of his way to cut players early to give them the best chance possible to land on another team. Heck, at times he's showcased players he was going to cut in preseason games, just to help their chances. Remember what he did for John Lynch? Sure BB's a competitor, but not at the expense of common decency.... Apparently, that expense is not too high for Tomlin. Tomlin is the perfect representative for such a marvelous, clean and prosperous city.....

 

[BradyFTW!]

Ironically, BB purposefully goes out of his way to cut players early to give them the best chance possible to land on another team. Heck, at times he's showcased players he was going to cut in preseason games, just to help their chances. Remember what he did for John Lynch? Sure BB's a competitor, but not at the expense of common decency.... Apparently, that expense is not too high for Tomlin. Tomlin is the perfect representative for such a marvelous, clean and prosperous city.....

WTF did Tomlin do wrong? Not publicly announce his cuts? NOBODY in the entire league, including the Pats, have publicly announced their final cuts. If the Steelers are dirtbags for it, then so are 31 other teams. I don't like the Steelers either, but at least pick a reason that makes sense.

 

[BradyFTW!]

honestly, i wouldn't really care and wouldn't devote an entire thread to it. sure, belichick would probably get the double standard treatment because he is characterized as an ultra-competitive, win-at-all-costs guy. But I don't think his internal motivation would be any different from Tomlin's in this case, both would probably want to treat their last cuts as humanely as possible, maximize the chances they could sign them to their own PS, and not put himself at a competitive disadvantage by releasing information earlier than necessary.

Fair enough, I don't disagree with any of that. If there's anything notable about it in this case, it's that Tomlin talked about it. For all we know, Belichick's likely doing the same thing, but if anyone asks him about it he'll just say "we're doing everything we can to help make the team better" or some other purposefully vague response.

I mean, damn, even Rex Ryan hasn't talked about it, and I'm pretty sure that guy calls a press conference everytime he takes a ****. Nothing wrong with Tomlin being open about it- just unusual, and therefore maybe (but probably not) worthy of discussion.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

WTF did Tomlin do wrong? Not publicly announce his cuts? NOBODY in the entire league, including the Pats, have publicly announced their final cuts. If the Steelers are dirtbags for it, then so are 31 other teams. I don't like the Steelers either, but at least pick a reason that makes sense.

You're wrong here. BB makes cuts early, and makes no attempt at covering it up. Did you happen to notice that six Pats cuts were all known at one once today? In Pittsburg, just a few names are tickling out over time, even though all the cuts were already made. Pretty indicative of how each went down. If you disagree with that point, I really don't think we could have a real discustion on this subject. Sure, BB will cut just about any player for the good of the team, but he almost always does it early for the player's benefit.

The Steelers aren't dirtbags because they're heartless to the guys they cut. They are heartless to the guys they cut because they are dirtbags. With Shanahan gone, the Steeler's offensive line is now, by a huge margin, the dirtiest in the league. Tomlin's a punk, proving it with his comments during spygate... and their players follow suit, running their mouths as much as any teams in the league. Steelers ownership and FO might be good in many ways, but their coaches and their players are perfect representives of Pittsturd's population.

 

[sheepsleepdeep]

Strange, I never figured the trashiest city in the US would also boast the countrie's dumbest people as well. Pittsturd is truly a remarkable place.

:bricks:

Actually....umm... no. Quite the opposite.

Among all cities in the world, pittsburgh ranks 29th, which is also the top spot in the U.S.
Pittsburgh ranked tops in U.S. by The Economist

Here's a great article on how Pittsburgh is weathering the recession and booming because of it
Pittsburgh’s economy springing back with less steel, more ‘ed and med’ | Construction Industry News | Reed Construction Data

and there's this (pittsburgh ranks 18th on list of 100 cities economies)
Pittsburgh ranked in nation's Top 20 on Brookings Institution list

and this (pittsburgh to host G20 economic summit)
Pittsburgh To Host G-20 Summit In September - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

aaaand this... (10 cities facing real estate recovery)
10 Cities Primed for a Real Estate Recovery - Rick Newman (usnews.com)


They also won a Lombardi and a Stanley Cup within 5 months of eachother.

Keep talking trash on Pittsburgh, though. At least you'll be educated and know that the city you are trashing is one of the greatest cities in the U.S.

 

[sheepsleepdeep]

dont you hate when a silly thing like "facts" get in the way of peoples misconceptions?

 

[Deus Irae]

dont you hate when a silly thing like "facts" get in the way of peoples misconceptions?

Nothing you cited, that actually had a valid link, proves the poster's assertions incorrect.

 

[blackglass3]

Why are these new Steeler fans here? We're not even playing this season, unless it happens in January.

Don't you guys have some Titan boards to terrorize over the towel stomping that happened last year? Prioritize, fellas.

 

[captain stone]

hilarious that a pats fan would criticize another organization for how they treat their players.

What the **** does that mean, Pits-turd?

 

[BradyFTW!]

Heh, you'd have to be awfully insecure about your city to run around to other teams' fanboards beating your chest about how great your city is. When people tell me boston sucks, I shrug, say "your loss", and leave it at that.

 

[aabtec]

I'd be interested in knowing if these players are allowed to shop there services to other teams. I cant see why not. I also wonder if there will be any uproar over this. I can only imagone what people would say if it was Belichick doing it. How he is trying to cheat these players out of finding employment eith other teams and such. Either way, it would be looked upon negatively. I doubt the same will be done on the Steelers.

Steelers keeping their cuts secret until Saturday

Steelers keeping their cuts secret until Saturday
Associated Press


PITTSBURGH -- The Steelers have cut their roster to the 53-man limit, but they aren't revealing which players they released.

Saying he didn't want other NFL teams to learn in advance who was let go, Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin said the final cuts won't be announced until Saturday, when all NFL teams must firm up their rosters.

Among those apparently cut Friday were fullback Carey Davis, who didn't play in Thursday night's preseason game against the Carolina Panthers; former Penn State center A.Q. Shipley, a seventh-round draft pick; and linebacker Bruce Davis, a third-round pick last year. Davis started 11 games for the Steelers the last two seasons.

One possible reason for the secrecy is that the Steelers might be trying to slide running back Isaac Redman from the active roster to the practice squad. Redman, an undrafted rookie from Bowie State, was the surprise star of training camp and scored three of the Steelers' five rushing touchdowns during the preseason.

The Steelers made their cuts one day earlier than most teams because they open the season Thursday night at home against the Tennessee Titans

Don't they have to notify the player's agent?

aabtec

 

[patchick]

WTF did Tomlin do wrong? Not publicly announce his cuts? NOBODY in the entire league, including the Pats, have publicly announced their final cuts. If the Steelers are dirtbags for it, then so are 31 other teams. I don't like the Steelers either, but at least pick a reason that makes sense.

I think what Tomlin did wrong is cut the players in advance, publicly announce that he had cut them, and then publicly announce that he was concealing their names for strategic purposes. That's bizarre public relations. Quietly wait until the deadline, dude.

 

[bigfandan]

Ha ha, you beat me to it; I was thinking the same thing. To hear some talk every Steeler draft pick becomes an all pro while every player the Pats have ever drafted is a complete bust.

Is this a proverbial strawman?

 

[BradyFTW!]

You're wrong here. BB makes cuts early, and makes no attempt at covering it up. Did you happen to notice that six Pats cuts were all known at one once today? In Pittsburg, just a few names are tickling out over time, even though all the cuts were already made. Pretty indicative of how each went down. If you disagree with that point, I really don't think we could have a real discustion on this subject. Sure, BB will cut just about any player for the good of the team, but he almost always does it early for the player's benefit.

The six cuts that were made public were guys that had absolutely no chance of making the team. You think someone's going to trade for Robert Ortiz? Of course not- those guys were worse than JAGs: they had no value at all. What Tomlin was talking about--trying to get value for your fringe players and final cuts--is exactly what the Pats and every other team in the league try to do. That's why the Pats haven't announced the cutting of any of their good players.

If Belichick 'almost always' cuts guys early, for the players' benefit, then why is it that, only a couple hours before the deadline, there have still only been 6 cuts publicly released (and a seventh known but not confirmed)?

I think what Tomlin did wrong is cut the players in advance, publicly announce that he had cut them, and then publicly announce that he was concealing their names for strategic purposes. That's bizarre public relations. Quietly wait until the deadline, dude.

I agree that it's kinda strange, which I noted several times, but it's dumb to call them classless dirtbags over it. That just reeks of having an irrational dislike for a team.

 

[DaBruinz]

I'm not sure I get this. To cut this player you have to waive him. Every team in the league has access to the waiver wire lists. So the only people they are keeping this from are the fans and media (who may find out anyway since most have a league insider on some team who feeds them info like waiver wire listings).

Players with less than 3 accrued years are waived. Those with more than three accrued years are cut/released.