Will BenJarvus Green-Ellis Make the 53?

[klinefan]

I think they should definitely keep him. Taylor and Morris and Faulk even are OLD.

3 post 30 RBs? Too much.

Kind of a waste signing Taylor unfortunately. BB does love his washed up vets...Duane Starks comes to mind. At least he didn't trade a #3 for Taylor.

 

[patsox23]

He's a lock.

 

[JackBauer]

He's a lock.

Huh? So you honestly expect them to carry 5 RBs?

 

[Patspsycho]

Huh? So you honestly expect them to carry 5 RBs?

Yes because they will definitely not have 5 RB's by the end of the year. Someone will definitely go to PUP or IR at some point.

I've been saying you have to balance age/wisdom with youth/energy. That RB without BJGE has three players over 30 who are injury-prone, leaving only Fred Astaire as the young RB, and even then, he's had his share of injuries.

 

[Mack Herron]

Can someone confirm that Taylor has PS eligibility but BJGE does not? If so, Taylor to the PS could be the injury insurance. It depends on how much they value BJGE skills compared with guys like Taylor. I like BJGE, but it is difficult to see how they could keep a guy who would not play unless several guys got hurt over somone who will play all the ST downs (Aiken, Slater, Ventrone, etc.)

 

[Patspsycho]

Can someone confirm that Taylor has PS eligibility but BJGE does not? If so, Taylor to the PS could be the injury insurance. It depends on how much they value BJGE skills compared with guys like Taylor. I like BJGE, but it is difficult to see how they could keep a guy who would not play unless several guys got hurt over somone who will play all the ST downs (Aiken, Slater, Ventrone, etc.)

BJGE is no longer eligible for PS.

Which Taylor are you talking about? There is no way we sneak Fred Taylor to the PS.

 

[JackBauer]

Yes because they will definitely not have 5 RB's by the end of the year. Someone will definitely go to PUP or IR at some point.

I've been saying you have to balance age/wisdom with youth/energy. That RB without BJGE has three players over 30 who are injury-prone, leaving only Fred Astaire as the young RB, and even then, he's had his share of injuries.

Yeah, but the point is that a JAG like BJGE can be picked up at any point throughout the year.

 

[Mack Herron]

BJGE is no longer eligible for PS.

Which Taylor are you talking about? There is no way we sneak Fred Taylor to the PS.

Of cousre-- I was talking about Chris Taylor. He could be put on the PS and serve as injury insurance.

 

[patsox23]

Huh? So you honestly expect them to carry 5 RBs?

Absolutely. Almost no question, IMO. 5 RBs. With David Thomas filling the Hochstein/Heath Evans role, along with some versatility on the OL, I think they will be able to do it. And given the injury history of Maroney, Morris AND Taylor, keeping a guy like BJGE is a good idea. Add to that that it's arguable he can fill the Faulk-in-training spot, the guy's a solid value.

 

[patfanken]

It goes to priorities. IF you keep Ben you can't keep 9 OLmen, If you keep Ben you can't have 4 TE. If you keep Ben, you lose a defensive player. Like the cap, you'd like to sign everyone to whatever they want to stay, but if you do, there are consequences.

Listen, next week teams will all have to cut 12 more players to get to the final 53. That's 384 players. 384 guys who have been good enough, and have done enough to impress coaches to keep them around through the OTA and 6 weeks of camp. MOST of whom are good enough to play in the NFL, but for one reason or another will get cut. Just a log jam at a position. No one got hurt. Or someone got hurt and they have to keep a guy at another position

On every board there are discussions going on like this one about keeping someones Binky. the fact is that there will be some 300 very good players who be looking for work. We all know that the final 53 is NEVER the FINAL 53, and about 30 of these guys WILL end up on a roster by the end of the year..

IMHO BJGE, is an NFL quality back up RB...but not on THIS team...THIS year. There are just too many other areas that need help more than RB

 

[Mike the Brit]

Interesting. Of those who've offered an opinion in this thread, I make it 9 don't see the Patriots keeping him, 8 say they will. On the other hand, 41 voters are predicting he will make it against 16 who say he won't.

What does that tell us? (Probably nothing...)

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

Interesting. Of those who've offered an opinion in this thread, I make it 9 don't see the Patriots keeping him, 8 say they will. On the other hand, 41 voters are predicting he will make it against 16 who say he won't.

What does that tell us? (Probably nothing...)

It tells us that an equal number of more passionate posters are on each side of the issue. There are more casual readers that think he will make it, but don't feel the need to explain why.

In short, I don't think it tells us anything about whether or not BJGE makes the team.

I voted for him to make it. The numbers are admittedly against him, but I feel he has shown enough to be on an NFL team.

I don't trust Taylor, Morris, and Maroney to go the whole year uninjured. Just to be clear, I'm not saying 1 of them might get injured, I am predicting ALL OF THEM will be injured as some point and miss playing time. The chance of being without all of them for an entire game or more is small, but not entirely improbable.

That's why I would prefer to keep BJGE around, but I also recognize the validity of the arguments against it.

 

[cstjohn17]

I say No, he is a nice player but one speed RBs with average size are a dime a dozen. I will waffle if anyone can confirm that he participates on any special teams units. At least Maroney can return kicks (until game 3 when he goes onto IR). I would rather give his spot to a ST contributor who is on the bubble (Slater, Alexander, Vetrone, etc.).

 

[mgteich]

Not only are you carrying 5 RB's for the first time so that Green-Ellis can substitute for any of the four, you have Green-Ellis as the heir apparent to Faulk? Faulk was on of our top receivers.

Absolutely. Almost no question, IMO. 5 RBs. With David Thomas filling the Hochstein/Heath Evans role, along with some versatility on the OL, I think they will be able to do it. And given the injury history of Maroney, Morris AND Taylor, keeping a guy like BJGE is a good idea. Add to that that it's arguable he can fill the Faulk-in-training spot, the guy's a solid value.

 

[Jimke]

The season hasn't begun and already Maroney and Morris

are missing practices. It's only a matter of time until one

or the other is out for a significant length of time. Better

a backup like Green-Eliis to fill in than a newbie.

 

[spacecrime]

A simple yes-no question in all of the roster cutdown scenarios.

I voted, but it isn't a simple question. I think they will keep 5 RBs. Others think Maroney will be cut opoeing a spot for BJGE. Very big difference if you want to draw any conclusions from this poll.

 

[Deus Irae]

The season hasn't begun and already Maroney and Morris

are missing practices. It's only a matter of time until one

or the other is out for a significant length of time. Better

a backup like Green-Eliis to fill in than a newbie.

Can you name a single veteran on the team that hasn't missed any practices, with the possible exception of Brady?

 

[BradyFTW!]

only if Morris gets IRed- since I'm not banking on that, I voted no.

 

[psychoPat]

Not As a Game Day Inactive

Bam Childress redux.

Exactly.

What convinces me that BJGE doesn't make the 53
from the starting gun - tho' he well might later in the campaign -
is that on opening night, and thereafter until injury depletes the RBs,
Ben-Jarvus would be only a game day inactive.

As it is, Fred Taylor and Morris are going to have to split that role between themselves.
Along with Hoyer ... Vollmer ... Ohrnberger ... Pryor ... Wheatley .... Crable, if he's not IR'd ...
other developmental guys who'll get to play only when injuries occur
above them on the depth chart.

Since all the core ST players we think are on the bubble,
but who finally make the roster MUST BE ACTIVE
it is very hard to finger another to flesh out the 8 who don't suit up.
BB is not cutting useful ST-ers just to keep a 5th RB around in civvies
... whom he'll be able to either re-sign or replace at will if needed.

 

[Jimke]

Can you name a single veteran on the team that hasn't missed any practices, with the possible exception of Brady?

Have Maroney and Morris missed a significant number of regular

season games the last couple of years?