Troy Brown on Hobbs

[cloud34]

Anybody see Troy on Comcast with Felger last night? They were talking about the secondary, and Troy thought it would be much improved. His comment was something like "especially now that Hobbs is out of here". I know a lot of others think this way, but I thought it was very interesting that an ex-teammate made that comment. Sounded like Troy was not a big fan of Ellis.

 

[lostjumper]

Somewhere, Holley is weeping. No one was able to see the genious of Hobbs like he was.

I think Hobbs is the nickel back in a good defense. When he was forced to be the #1 cornerback, bad things happened...

 

[Mogamedogz]

Somewhere, Holley is weeping. No one was able to see the genious of Hobbs like he was.

I think Hobbs is the nickel back in a good defense. When he was forced to be the #1 cornerback, bad things happened...

this has always been my position on hobbs.

I was laughing my ass off at posters actually thinking that hobbs would still be the #1 even AFTER we signed Springs and Bodden.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Somewhere, Holley is weeping. No one was able to see the genious of Hobbs like he was.

I think Hobbs is the nickel back in a good defense. When he was forced to be the #1 cornerback, bad things happened...

yeah, definitely not the kind of guy you would leave one-on-one with Plaxico Burress in the red zone in the closing minutes of a Super Bowl when we were protecting a four point lead...oops...umm...never mind...scratch that...

 

[jcdavey]

definitely not the sorriest corner in the league, and a very good returner , but damn he's short......

 

[Synovia]

definitely not the sorriest corner in the league, and a very good returner , but damn he's short......

Ellis Hobbs: 5'9"

Wilhite: 5'11"
Wheatley: 5'9"
Butler: 5'10"


I'm missing the "damn hes short". He's pretty normal in the context of CBs the pats draft.

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

I'm glad a former teammate has the balls to say what they really feel and Troy did just that. Hobbs played well in 2005 after taking over for that disgrace of a CB named Duane Starks. But, in 2006, he struggled as a full time starter. In 2007, whether it was his fault or not, he will always be remembered as the guy who gave up the winning touchdown to Plaxico Burress. Other than that, opposing teams consistently went after him because Samuel was on the other side. In 2008, he flat out sucked as a #1 CB and it was a joke the Patriots actually thought they would do fine with him as their #1 CB. Finally, being traded for only a 5th round pick at the age of 26 shows you how much he's worth in the NFL.

Other than him being one of the best kick returners in the NFL, I will always remember him as a below average CB that would always draw pass interference penalties at critical times and fall down while trying to cover WR's for no apparent reason. I guess Phillip Rivers was on to something when he barked at Hobbs, "you're the worst CB in the NFL".

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Ellis Hobbs: 5'9"

Wilhite: 5'11"
Wheatley: 5'9"
Butler: 5'10"


I'm missing the "damn hes short". He's pretty normal in the context of CBs the pats draft.

Don't belive the roster:

For the Combine weigh-in Wilhite was 5'9 1/2", unless he put on a late growth spurt his listing is a bit suspect.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

In one of Reiss's columns last week (I think it may have been his mailbag) he was asked a question about the corners and he said with the depth we have right now if Ellis were still here,he would rate Hobbs as a 5th or 6th corner on this team,If that does not emphasize that even Reiss thought he sucked,nothing does.

 

[PushnPencils]

Although height was a definite issue with EHIII, his biggest problem was WR's being able to get huge cushions on him and him not having the quicks to make up the difference.

He was awful. Anytime you saw the opposing QB putting the ball deep, you knew more than not EHIII was covering and you'd block your eyes.

I also thought that he'd be a better nickel back, but correct me if I'm wrong, as the nickel usually covers the slot receiver more than not. I can't see him having the quicks to cover a good slot receiver like a Welker.

 

[matt9071]

Wow a lot of Hate going down for Hobbs. I actually liked the guy he was an average player with a lot of passion. Now dont flame me please but I thought Hobbs was hurt during the SB ? Anyway weather he was or not I cant hold a grudge against that play with Burress concidering he is about a foot taller than Hobbs just a major mismatch if you ask me.

 

[Bill B.]

Wow a lot of Hate going down for Hobbs. I actually liked the guy he was an average player with a lot of passion. Now dont flame me please but I thought Hobbs was hurt during the SB ? Anyway weather he was or not I cant hold a grudge against that play with Burress concidering he is about a foot taller than Hobbs just a major mismatch if you ask me.

And don't forget that an allout blitz was called on the play that was the winning TD. You send everybody and they don't get to the QB, then you are leaving your corner on an island.

 

[doesntmatter1]

I would have to say Hobbs seems perfect to cover someone like Welker. And right now i would say Hobbs would have done a better job than Wheatley against the eagles if he were still on our team. And about the superbowl, Hobbs was the only person that capitalized on a turnover with that pick that the pats did nothing with. They could have at least attempted a 50 yard field goal with his pick but Nooo. In that game Randall Gay, Asante, Woods, and Merriweather all failed to capitalize on potential turnovers.

And no one was on Harrison's back. Yeah he was most likely tired from always being on the field because of our bad offense that game, but he held the tight ends in check almost the whole game but when it counted in the fourth, Kevin Boss ran wild and Tyree caught a ball that hung in the air.

And do you guys remember Brady laughed at Plaxico's bold prediction of the Giants winning 21-17. Brady clearly said to the reporter all smuggly that they actually think they can hold us to 17 points. I would've glady been happy with at least getting 17. It would've sent us to overtime. SO JUST GET OFF OF HOBBS BACK. ITS LIKE KICKING A GUY IN THE NUTS WHILE HES PASSED OUT. HE DID NOT SINGLE HANDEDLY COST US THE SUPERBOWL

 

[363839]

I also thought that he'd be a better nickel back, but correct me if I'm wrong, as the nickel usually covers the slot receiver more than not. I can't see him having the quicks to cover a good slot receiver like a Welker.

Yeah, not like that guy...umm...what's his name....you know the guy that covers Welker like a blanket.

Ok. That was a little sarcasm for you.
Really. Who DOES have the quickness to cover Welker?!?!

 

[PushnPencils]

Yeah, not like that guy...umm...what's his name....you know the guy that covers Welker like a blanket.

Ok. That was a little sarcasm for you.
Really. Who DOES have the quickness to cover Welker?!?!

Julian Edelman?

 

[rsd]

I would have to say Hobbs seems perfect to cover someone like Welker. And right now i would say Hobbs would have done a better job than Wheatley against the eagles if he were still on our team. And about the superbowl, Hobbs was the only person that capitalized on a turnover with that pick that the pats did nothing with. They could have at least attempted a 50 yard field goal with his pick but Nooo. In that game Randall Gay, Asante, Woods, and Merriweather all failed to capitalize on potential turnovers.

And no one was on Harrison's back. Yeah he was most likely tired from always being on the field because of our bad offense that game, but he held the tight ends in check almost the whole game but when it counted in the fourth, Kevin Boss ran wild and Tyree caught a ball that hung in the air.

And do you guys remember Brady laughed at Plaxico's bold prediction of the Giants winning 21-17. Brady clearly said to the reporter all smuggly that they actually think they can hold us to 17 points. I would've glady been happy with at least getting 17. It would've sent us to overtime. SO JUST GET OFF OF HOBBS BACK. ITS LIKE KICKING A GUY IN THE NUTS WHILE HES PASSED OUT. HE DID NOT SINGLE HANDEDLY COST US THE SUPERBOWL

Mr. Holley, nice to have you join these boards.

 

[Kontradiction]

yeah, definitely not the kind of guy you would leave one-on-one with Plaxico Burress in the red zone in the closing minutes of a Super Bowl when we were protecting a four point lead...oops...umm...never mind...scratch that...

It's been said that Hobbs was supposed to receive safety help over the top on that play. I'm still not sure how anyone here could possibly know that unless there are Pats coaches actually posting here. But that's what was said.

Personally, I think Hobbs gets a lot of flak for no reason. I'm not going to put the blame on him for that catch because I personally do not know if he was supposed to be left 1 on 1 with Burress. Hobbs was serviceable at the very best. He made a lot of good plays for us and he gave up some plays. He should have never been thrust into the #1 position last year. In the end though, he did his job to the best of his abilities and showed a great amount of class toward the whole organization when he left. Hobbs isn't going to get any bad mouthing from me.

 

[Kontradiction]

And do you guys remember Brady laughed at Plaxico's bold prediction of the Giants winning 21-17. Brady clearly said to the reporter all smuggly that they actually think they can hold us to 17 points. I would've glady been happy with at least getting 17. It would've sent us to overtime. SO JUST GET OFF OF HOBBS BACK. ITS LIKE KICKING A GUY IN THE NUTS WHILE HES PASSED OUT. HE DID NOT SINGLE HANDEDLY COST US THE SUPERBOWL

What do you think Brady should have said? "Yeah, Plaxico is right. We suck. We're definitely only going to be able to score 17 points. That'll actually be a miracle because the Giants defense is definitely going to butt rape us". Get the hell out of here.

 

[doesntmatter1]

Mr. Holley, nice to have you join these boards.

Thanks for having me. Hope you enjoyed the post. I try to tell it how it is. I know Hobbs wasn't all that but i hate seeing him continuously degraded for stupid things that were not always his fault. Im done commenting on Hobbs on to finding faults with the new guys from here on out for me.

 

[condon84]

I'm glad that guy's not one of our starting corners anymore and that an ex-teamate had the balls to say that. There were posters on this board that were Hobbs apologists and for the life of me, I can't understand why.