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OK, I was going to make a thread late last night, but I was slightly busy, and saved my thoughts in a txt. I've re-watched the first half (many plays watched two or three times during that second go around), and my impressions are still the same, so here goes:

My Impressions...

Edelman's speedy, elusive, has good receiving ability, and seems to be learning the system faster than most rookies, but he was a college QB, so he should be able to digest the playbook a little faster than the average rook. A lot can change between now and the start of the regular season, but I'd be pretty surprised if he didn't make the final 53. I knew about his running ability from watching him in college, but his instincts and football IQ impressed me during this first preseason game.

Wilhite: a longer look would have been nice, but what we did see of him was almost all positive. Blanket coverage on a couple of long passes, made a good play on the ball, and also tackled well in the open field. He's even generating some pop.

Chris Baker: displayed good separation, and nice hands. On one of his catches Baker made a tough adjustment, as Brady zipped the ball in slightly behind him, and about shoulder high. It also seems like Brady and Baker have some chemistry going. Also, I don't know if it's just me, but he looked to be in better shape, and might be a little faster because of it.

Moss: he dropped a couple of passes, but he then made up for it on the very same drive, when he hauled in that rope from Brady. What else can I say, the man is a HOF WR and his overwhelming athletic ability was on display again tonight.

Galloway: Still has the wheels, and cutting ability, but he doesn't seem to have the Patriots offense down quite yet, which isn't exactly unexpected at this point. I was also a little disappointed when he dropped what seemed to be a sure TD, but he's got all of training camp to figure things out, and I believe he'll be an upgrade over Gaffney.

Chung: initially he gave the receiver to much space, and gave up a few completions, but with some snaps under his belt, Patrick seemed to make the proper adjustments, and started making some plays. He was also in on some stops close to the LOS, which is to be expected from a hard nosed Safety, but was still nice to see, especially from a rook. On special teams he blocked one FG, and came awfully close to blocking Akers last attempt.

Meriweather: I don't remember seeing him make any actual mistakes in the game. I think maybe he gave up one reception, but I also seem to remember a CB being in the area, so it might not have been Meriweather's fault. In any case, Brandon was flying around, and laying the wood on multiple receivers and ball carriers. He was in on some stops at the LOS, and cracked the QB on a blitz up the gut. He's also taking more of a leadership role this year, and I noticed him correcting Sanders a few times. Getting back to his play at the LOS, I noticed him rushing up to stuff the RB, but Mayo had beaten him to the ball carrier, so Meriweather decided to put a shot in an O-linemen instead, which impressed me, as you don't usually see players going that hard in the preseason. It also brought back memories of Rodney's nasty demeaner.

Bodden: Seems like a fit, but he gave up a few completions, and didn't really make any noteworthy plays. I don't remember Philly trying him that often though, either. McNabb tried to beat him with a pass to the back of the endzone, but Bodden was in decent position, and the ball was slightly overthrown.

Darius Butler: Gave up some completions, and committed that pass interference, but he also had solid coverage on a number of passes thrown his direction, tipped the ball away from the receiver on one pass, got the interception on the two point conversion, and made some good open field tackles. So, like any rookie he's got some things to work on, but I came away from the game believing he's going to develop into a solid NFL CB, and I think he's got the potential to be a special player in NE's defense.

Banta-Cain, Woods, and Burgess generated some pressure off the edge, with Banta-Cain getting a sack, and coming close two other times.

Guyton had his ups and downs. He made a nice leaping play on a McNabb pass tipping the ball, and he was in on some stops close to the LOS, but he also gave up some receptions over the middle, and failed to close a few running lanes. He whiffed on a tackle or two, as well.

Alexander: I'll be honest and say I'd have cut him a few years ago, and he really stood out last night, but in a negative way.

Vollmer's pretty big, looked quick on his feet, and did a good job blocking. It'll be interesting to watch him develop over the next few years. The man honestly does seem to have starting potential.

Of the D-linemen Pryor really surprised me, as he got pressure on, and cracked both Philly QB's. He seemed relentless at times in his pursuit of the passer. You don't see many big men with that kind of motor, either. Brace made some plays as well, but the one time I specifically remember him getting pressure came on a Philly screen, which was designed to suck the D-linemen in...

This all leads me to one final observation...the Patriots are going to face some really tough cuts this year, and I wouldn't be surprised if some familiar faces hit the road, as new members of the team displace them.
 
but he was a college QB, so he should be able to digest the playbook a little faster than the average rook

This thought has crossed my mind a few times. Not only should it help to diggest but also see it like Brady would. But at the same time I can't imagine Kent State had a complicated system and since I have no clue about Kent State I decided not to post it.

and oh yeah nice breakdown
 
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I agree. Very nice breakdown Sebman. I would like to hear your thoughts on Maroney. I for one thought he did pretty good. He danced very little but i like how decisive he was. He usually scans for a hole too long and gets hit in the backfield. Last night he lowered the shoulder. He didn't get much but he lowered the shoulder.

For those BJGE fans comparing him to Maroney is just silly. The defense loads up against Maroney all the time because it is almost always a running play when he is in the game but whenever BJGE has a chance to convert a 3 and 1 he almost never comes through even against the back ups. I bet if Maroney was in for the those 3 and 1s with the way he was running last night he would've converted. JUST THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!
 
OK, I was going to make a thread late last night, but I was slightly busy, and saved my thoughts in a txt. I've re-watched the first half (many plays watched two or three times during that second go around), and my impressions are still the same, so here goes:

My Impressions...

Edelman's speedy, elusive, has good receiving ability, and seems to be learning the system faster than most rookies, but he was a college QB, so he should be able to digest the playbook a little faster than the average rook. A lot can change between now and the start of the regular season, but I'd be pretty surprised if he didn't make the final 53. I knew about his running ability from watching him in college, but his instincts and football IQ impressed me during this first preseason game.
I saw Edelman for the very first time last night; I was duly impressed. I don't want to get my hopes up too much, but if he could develop a game similar to Meion Branch...

Wilhite: a longer look would have been nice, but what we did see of him was almost all positive. Blanket coverage on a couple of long passes, made a good play on the ball, and also tackled well in the open field. He's even generating some pop.
He's better than Mike Richardson, for sure, and looks even better compared to 2nd-rounder (?!?) lil' Terry Wheatley.

Chris Baker: displayed good separation, and nice hands. On one of his catches Baker made a tough adjustment, as Brady zipped the ball in slightly behind him, and about shoulder high. It also seems like Brady and Baker have some chemistry going. Also, I don't know if it's just me, but he looked to be in better shape, and might be a little faster because of it.
Baker the TD Maker: perhaps the TE Bill's been looking for. Better late than never.

Moss: he dropped a couple of passes, but he then made up for it on the very same drive, when he hauled in that rope from Brady. What else can I say, the man is a HOF WR and his overwhelming athletic ability was on display again tonight.
But he should made to run a lap when they return to practice, not only for the drop of the WR screen, but mostly for that pathetic "attempt" to break up Sheldon Brown's INT. Get your damn hands up, Randy, for once.

Galloway: Still has the wheels, and cutting ability, but he doesn't seem to have the Patriots offense down quite yet, which isn't exactly unexpected at this point. I was also a little disappointed when he dropped what seemed to be a sure TD, but he's got all of training camp to figure things out, and I believe he'll be an upgrade over Gaffney.
If they can find another Wideout who demands Safety help, the underneath/medium routes should be wide open for TEs, RBs & Welker/Edelman. The question is - as it always is - can this OL protect Brady long enough for the deep routes to develop?

Chung: initially he gave the receiver to much space, and gave up a few completions, but with some snaps under his belt, Patrick seemed to make the proper adjustments, and started making some plays. He was also in on some stops close to the LOS, which is to be expected from a hard nosed Safety, but was still nice to see, especially from a rook. On special teams he blocked one FG, and came awfully close to blocking Akers last attempt.
He does seem to enjoy STs. Would you have taken him at 34, or waited until 47 while not making that lopsided trade with Al Davis?

Meriweather: I don't remember seeing him make any actual mistakes in the game. I think maybe he gave up one reception, but I also seem to remember a CB being in the area, so it might not have been Meriweather's fault. In any case, Brandon was flying around, and laying the wood on multiple receivers and ball carriers. He was in on some stops at the LOS, and cracked the QB on a blitz up the gut. He's also taking more of a leadership role this year, and I noticed him correcting Sanders a few times. Getting back to his play at the LOS, I noticed him rushing up to stuff the RB, but Mayo had beaten him to the ball carrier, so Meriweather decided to put a shot in an O-linemen instead, which impressed me, as you don't usually see players going that hard in the preseason. It also brought back memories of Rodney's nasty demeaner.
What's even more impressive to me is that he is intercepting passes in TC, not just knocking them down or dropping them. And if he's correcting lil' Jimmy Sanders, then what good is Sanders?

Bodden: Seems like a fit, but he gave up a few completions, and didn't really make any noteworthy plays. I don't remember Philly trying him that often though, either. McNabb tried to beat him with a pass to the back of the endzone, but Bodden was in decent position, and the ball was slightly overthrown.
One play which I remembered - not for a good reason - is the one during which he whiffs vs. either Maclin or Jackson in the open field. Our CBs must be able to limit YACs, or they & the rest of the D will stay on the field longer & allow more points than they can afford.

Darius Butler: Gave up some completions, and committed that pass interference, but he also had solid coverage on a number of passes thrown his direction, tipped the ball away from the receiver on one pass, got the interception on the two point conversion, and made some good open field tackles. So, like any rookie he's got some things to work on, but I came away from the game believing he's going to develop into a solid NFL CB, and I think he's got the potential to be a special player in NE's defense.
I have very high hopes for Butler. We were lucky that he was still available at 40/41. He's Bill's best value pick since Wilfork. Maybe he can contribute as a Returner, too.

Banta-Cain, Woods, and Burgess generated some pressure off the edge, with Banta-Cain getting a sack, and coming close two other times.
If I didn't know better, I would've thought that Woods & Burgess didn't play. They seemed invisible to me.

Guyton had his ups and downs. He made a nice leaping play on a McNabb pass tipping the ball, and he was in on some stops close to the LOS, but he also gave up some receptions over the middle, and failed to close a few running lanes. He whiffed on a tackle or two, as well.
Agreed.

Alexander: I'll be honest and say I'd have cut him a few years ago, and he really stood out last night, but in a negative way.
Doubly agreed.

Vollmer's pretty big, looked quick on his feet, and did a good job blocking. It'll be interesting to watch him develop over the next few years. The man honestly does seem to have starting potential.
But would you have drafted him ahead of Will Beatty?

Of the D-linemen Pryor really surprised me, as he got pressure on, and cracked both Philly QB's. He seemed relentless at times in his pursuit of the passer. You don't see many big men with that kind of motor, either. Brace made some plays as well, but the one time I specifically remember him getting pressure came on a Philly screen, which was designed to suck the D-linemen in...
But unless Bill is committed to playing a lot more base 4-3, then I don't see the reason for drafting both Brace & esp. Pryor.

This all leads me to one final observation...the Patriots are going to face some really tough cuts this year, and I wouldn't be surprised if some familiar faces hit the road, as new members of the team displace them.

Our best hope is that everybody makes it as hard on the FO to cut them as possible, even the players I would not have drafted when they were taken.
 
My impression.........

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I'd mostly agree with these assessments. A couple of points stood out though -

Wilhite - watching him in the game and in the one practice I attended this year, he just has a totally different persona this year. Much more confident. Really reminds me of Assante Samuel when he became a starter. He's more physical than Samuel, not sure he's got the ball skills though. I don't see how he's not a starter this year.

Burgess - I watched him on every play he was in there (as far as I know), and I didn't see him beat his man once while rushing the passer. Hopefully this is not typical of what to expect.

When Guyton tipped that pass, I jumped out of my seat. And later in the game he almost got his hand on another one. Last year, our LBs just weren't making any plays in the passing game and it hurt just as much as the poor performance of the CBs. Guyton and Mayo have the skills to cover. I'm hoping they can get the feel for it this year and make some plays.

Volmer looked even better than I expected. I think he's easily starting material by next year.
 
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