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whatever happens to the niner's pick? I mean what type of compensation they get? 1st round material?

They get nothing but the regret of drafting him. BTW this is exactly the reason most teams didn't want anything to do with him on draft day. He is considered to be on the dumb side and has one of his dipsh*t cousins or uncles running the show.
 
They get zip.

Think back to Bo Jackson when he said no to Tampa Bay about 15 years ago.

23 years ago(1986 draft) ;)
 
Well part of the problem is the agent wanting to make a big splash witha top ten client so he cna cement himself as a top agent and continual get top ten prospects and huge paydays.

Crabtree may also be a greedy SOB too. Lets not forget while alot of NFL players cna be prima donna's...WR's are famous for fitting that bill and shocking he's a WR.

But if he decides to hold out a year all I can say is Mike Williams...look what happened to him. Granted it was a court ruling vs a hold out here but we saw what not playing football for a year sititng on your butt does to your draft stock as well as potential for making the league.
 
True but if it were any of the other 31 Teams at the raiders slot, Crab would have been picked.

Is that really so clear? Crabtree was a consensus top-3 talent...until teams started meeting him. They concluded that he was a diva with a problem attitude and looked elsewhere -- and now he's proving them right. Another team might have traded down rather than drafting DHB, but they could well have passed on Crabtree just like the Raiders did.

It's not just about "talent." He made this bed, he has to lie in it. The league isn't going to double the Niners' rookie cap just because their pick thinks he deserves more.
 
Yeah, it is in the nature of being a self centered jerk to not be able to comprehend that others' are turned off by you. These guys generate a remarkable wall of self-denial and false bravado, and if/when it gets penetrated, they are in serious psychological trouble. We shouldn't expect him to understand much of what is going on outside his own head.

Is that really so clear? Crabtree was a consensus top-3 talent...until teams started meeting him. They concluded that he was a diva with a problem attitude and looked elsewhere -- and now he's proving them right. Another team might have traded down rather than drafting DHB, but they could well have passed on Crabtree just like the Raiders did.

It's not just about "talent." He made this bed, he has to lie in it. The league isn't going to double the Niners' rookie cap just because their pick thinks he deserves more.
 
It's not irrelevant. All the picks around the Raiders are having contract problems because the Raiders signed DHB to such a high contract. Every pick is slightly lower than the last. How much DHB got a 7 effects how much the 8th pick will get which will effect how much the 9th pick will get and so on.

1) If DHB did get a lot more than normal that means the bar has been raised, which would benefit Crabtree

2) Crabtree wants MORE than what DHB got.

He was not the 7th pick, too F'in bad. The way he's acting he's taking his stock lower and lower, he looks like a combo of Favre and TO on steroids, forget locker room cancer, he looks like locker room Ebola.

I'd LOVE to see the 49ers trade his rights or just let him sit on his behind for the year.
 
The way he's acting he's taking his stock lower and lower, he looks like a combo of Favre and TO on steroids, forget locker room cancer, he looks like locker room Ebola.

Eh, I think locker room syphilis works better as a comparison. . . . eventually, you go crazy, but even then, it's fixable. :)

I'd LOVE to see the 49ers trade his rights or just let him sit on his behind for the year.

As I pointed out above, they can let him sit, but it's basically too late to trade him because of that same rookie salary cap that limits how much SF can pay him.
 
I was watching the Niners/Broncos game for a while last night and the SF broadcasting team were talking about it like the team and Mike Singeltary were more at fault. :confused:

As has been said, the Niners don't hold all the cards, but they hold most of them. You never want to "lose" a first-rounder... but other than that, Crabtree doesn't have much on his side with this unbelievably stupid argument. Holding out for a whole season and re-entering the draft is never a good idea, and he really screwed up by going straight to that threat IMHO.
 
Probably there is more than just money involved here. Singletary is the ultimate hard-ass, no B.S. coach--the complete opposite of who Crabtree played for at Texas Tech. It wouldn't surprise me if Singletary and Crabtree failed to see eye-to-eye from the outset, and this has partly resulted in the posturing over money from both sides.

On the other hand, Crabtree's foot injury (always problematic) prevented him from running at the combine. (I forget whether he ran the 40 at his Pro Day or not). It's entirely possible that the 49ers weren't exactly wowed by Crabtree's pre-camp workouts and are simply making a sound business decision in not throwing extra millions at him.
 
If there was a problem with the rookie salary cap of a team interested in trading for Crabtree, could they deal with SF, and get them to sign him to what they will offer, and then trade for him??
 
. I also heard that Crabtree wants to sign but it's his agent who isn't budging.

The agent works for Crabtree, not the other way around. If he wanted to sign for what they offered, he'd fire his agent and sign.

The "my agent won't let me sign" is nothing more than "i'm letting the agent look like the bad guy'
 
1) If DHB did get a lot more than normal that means the bar has been raised, which would benefit Crabtree

Which is why its funny that they're offering him about the same as Mayo got last year, when the cap has risen another 10%, and rookie salaries have risen even more than that.

2) Crabtree wants MORE than what DHB got.

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And Crabtree has never assaulted a teammate, so hes not nearly as bad as TO.
 
And Crabtree has never assaulted a teammate, so hes not nearly as bad as TO.

Yet:D

I think he'd be the type of guy who'd turn into whatever you allowed him to. If the 49ers made it a point to not put up with ANY nonsense then I think he'd turn into an ok player, if they let him be the diva I think he'll wind up doing stuff that would make Favre blush.

I hope he sits out this season and because of that the league institutes a rookie salary cap.
 
Still no contact between niners and Crabtree

To be honest I like the approach from San Fran. It's potentialy a big loss for them as they could end up without a talented rookie and a wasted 1st round pick but they're not budging.

It's always been a pet peeve of mine to see guys who've never produced anything in the NFL act like they're owed something.
 
Meanwhile, we're hearing that Parker is dealing with the Crabtree conundrum on the recruiting trail by blaming the holdout on the player. Parker, we're told, is pointing to the deal he negotiated for defensive end Tyson Jackson at the third overall slot as proof that Parker is willing and able to negotiate a fair deal for a first-round pick.

So now even Crabtree's agent is throwing him under the bus?! What a tool. You can't tell me this won't come up in the CBA negotiations.
 
Crabtree knows that SF has no QB to get him the ball, and will probably not live up to his potential so it may be why he's looking for big money now. One thing is for sure, when he does get into that locker room he will be promptly stuffed in it by his teammates.
 
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