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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.There's no doubt the Pats would be paying a premium - but there's no other outside options at OLB. Isn't a 3rd rounder worth some insurance at the position?
Again, we have a surplus of early picks next year, we're already to the brim in terms of young players as it is, I think we can spare a late 3rd round pick. For instance, would you trade Tryone McKenzie for Burgess?
While I think we can probably make it work with what we have (especially considering our DL & secondary look strong), its not worth the risk if there is another option.
Which dozen players? Based on some of the #'s I've seen pertaining to the draft, the odds of a 3rd rounder sticking in this league is about 1 in 3. Burgess is a known commodity, this team's lone unknown is pass rushing. I would do it.
And don't forget the Pats pick at the bottom of the round (typically), so our 3rd is closer to a 4th.
Cousin,The question is when is COLVIN going to be resigned?
Keep in mind that the Patriots have sent the Raiders a 3 for Duane Starks in 2005, and a 5 for Doug Gabriel in 2006. So they really don't have a whole lot to complain about.
But I agree, no more than a 3, if that.
Moss has big time upside as an edge rusher.
Moss is a massive bust, has no work ethic, and doesn't fit the Broncos 3-4 defense.
Ted Johnson each for a 4th-rounder, albeit an early 4th in both cases. I would hold out until Al accepts one of our 5th-rounders instead.
What? Ted Johnson was a 2nd round pick in 1995.
The draft definitely isn't a sure thing, and you're right about the pick being closer to the 4th. But I guess it really depends on what you think Burgess is going to be. If you think he's the answer (or a large part of the answer) to the hole left by Vrabel, I guess you could justify the third. But I'm concerned about the recent string of injuries and age, and I also think we could get him for less.
As for this year's third round, if we're not talking about fits for the system and strictly on talent/potential, guys like Shonn Greene and Louis Vasquez are a few intriguing names. I'm not a fan of Michael Johnson, but he was a potential first-rounder who dropped, so there could be a value pick there.
And I liked the Pats' picks this year, Brandon Tate and Tyrone McKenzie (too bad about the injury). A guy like Patrick Turner probably won't be a star, but could have developed into a nice third receiver, especially behind Moss/Welker. I like Lardarius Webb and Derek Cox too, and there are several other guys who would have been projects or else could contribute right away, but don't necessarily have a lot of potential.
It's just too expensive for a rental.
We paid a 4th for Moss in 07, in what COULD have been a rental, and that was clearly worth it. Whether we would extend Burgess or not, a 3rd rounder would be worth it if it helped the team win a SB in 09.
Oops.
I meant Ted Washington, who was acquired before the 2003 season for a 4th-rounder in '04.
I guess those Teds must look alike to me.
"Moss is a far better player than Burgess and, as you pointed out, it was a 4th."
Ya but at the time a lot of people thought Moss was done, and he would have ended up being cut by Oakland anyway, he had just given up. His stock was as low as it could get.
Burgess may want out, but he's not so bad that him being on the team is actually hurting you, which is what Moss was like in Oakland. They had to let Moss go. They don't have to let Burgess go.
Moss ended up proving that he was still great, but ATT Moss was worth nothing, Oakland was gonna release him anyway.
"I wasn't one who thought Moss was done. I can only opine on this based upon my perception of the involved value, because it's about my thought on the value of Burgess v. the draft picks."
Im sure others in the league agreed with you, but with Moss's rep for being a cancer, only a few teams could take him. My point is Moss had no value back when the Pats traded for him. Oakland had no leverage.
Burgess dosen't have quite the same rep and has proven ability, so Oakland can hold out for more.