Patriots 50th Anniversary Team announced

[wiggins!]

Don't think there's a thread on this yet - Reiss has it:

Patriots blog - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com

 

[lurker1965]

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Maybe I need sleep, but doesn't he have 12 on offense?

Are they playing a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense?

Back up battles would be weird. After Brady, Grogan? Bledsoe? Parilli? (sp?), Heck, Plunkett*? or (gasp, this makes a weird sense) Cassel?

*The line sucked for Plunkett here.

 

[wiggins!]

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Maybe I need sleep, but doesn't he have 12 on offense?

12 on O and 12 on D.

Defensively they're in a 4-4-4

 

[PatsSox363804]

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Vrabel over McGinest?

 

[everlong]

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I'd take Bruschi over Buoniconti. I don't care if he's in the HOF I consider him a Dolphin and cannot stand him. I wasn't around when he played so maybe I'd feel differently if I was. He always seemed so arrogant on Inside the NFL and he talked about himself as a Dolphin not a Patriots which isn't completely surprising since he had his great success there at least from a team stand point.

Vrabel over McGinist at OLB? An interesting debate can be had on that one.

 

[Jimke]

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I'd take Bruschi over Buoniconti. I don't care if he's in the HOF I consider him a Dolphin and cannot stand him. I wasn't around when he played so maybe I'd feel differently if I was. He always seemed so arrogant on Inside the NFL and he talked about himself as a Dolphin not a Patriots which isn't completely surprising since he had his great success there at least from a team stand point.

Vrabel over McGinist at OLB? An interesting debate can be had on that one.

Buoniconti was a Dolphin because the Patriot's management was dumb

enough to trade him off for a bunch of crap.

 

[PATSNUTme]

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I liked Fred Marion a lot. But I would put Rodney in his place.

 

[italian pat patriot]

where is Willie Mc Ginest ?

 

[Jimke]

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I'd take Bruschi over Buoniconti. I don't care if he's in the HOF I consider him a Dolphin and cannot stand him. I wasn't around when he played so maybe I'd feel differently if I was. He always seemed so arrogant on Inside the NFL and he talked about himself as a Dolphin not a Patriots which isn't completely surprising since he had his great success there at least from a team stand point.

Vrabel over McGinist at OLB? An interesting debate can be had on that one.

Just to elaborate a little more. I did get to see Nick Buoniconti play
and he was as good as advertised. He was the best player on a
defense that had to pressure the quarterback because the defensive
backs were suspect.

The Mike Holovak era ended after the 1968 season and Clive Rush
was chosen as head coach. Babe Parelli had left the team in 1967,
Mike Taliaferro was now the quarterback.

What followed was a very sad part of Patriot history. Clive Rush was
a complete fruitcake. The general manager wasn't much better. The
first thing management did was trade their best player (Buoniconti) for
linebacker Bob Bramlett, reserve quarterback Kim Hammond, and a #5
draft pick. Buoniconti was replaced by Jim Cheyunski a 12th round pick
from Syracuse in the 1968 draft. All the players they received were duds.

Buoniconti was so upset by the trade that he considered quitting football.
Cheyunski played five years for the Patriots and was cut when Chuck Fairbanks
took over the team.

 

[upstater1]

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The OL is all screwed up, if you ask me. Shelby Jordan, Brian Holloway, Leon Gray, Pete Brock.

I love Mankins. But....

Look at the 4 names above. OK, maybe not Jordan, but the others...

I would have found a space for Willie McGinest as well

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

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Dont agree with Logan Mankins, Bunnocotti- who is more known for the dolphins.. Ty Law or Vrabel

Mankins- Leon Gray, Ron wooten , Brian Holloway.. Better choices there

Bunnocotti- Johnny Rembert, Don Blackmon or Tedy Bruschi...

Ty Law- No contest Ray Clayborn should have been the choice

Mike Vrabel - I love, but Don Blackmon would been the better choice

Darryl Stingley over Fryer is also a strong debate..

 

[RayClay]

There must be some mistake. Where's Jim Lee Hunt?

 

[pats1]

Wilfork is an interesting choice.

 

[Fanfrom1960]

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Dont agree with Logan Mankins, Bunnocotti- who is more known for the dolphins.. Ty Law or Vrabel

Mankins- Leon Gray, Ron wooten , Brian Holloway.. Better choices there

Bunnocotti- Johnny Rembert, Don Blackmon or Tedy Bruschi...

Ty Law- No contest Ray Clayborn should have been the choice

Mike Vrabel - I love, but Don Blackmon would been the better choice

Darryl Stingley over Fryer is also a strong debate..

Is your spelling of Buoniconti out of contempt for the Dolphins, or are you just winging it You could actually do more with the last two syllables but this is a family board, right?

 

[Jimke]

Gray over Light

McGinest over Vrabel

Leaving Buoniconti off the team would be a travesty. He was the Patriots
first great player.

 

[RayClay]

Wilfork is an interesting choice.

I'm actually OK with it. Those are our two best tackles, given the 3-4, 4-3 squooshing and Seymour being listed as an end which he wouldn't be in a 4-3.

Big Vince would be great as a 3-4 tackle too, with a bit less weight IMO.

 

[captain stone]

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Vrabel over McGinest?

I don't agree with that one, either.

And Mankins, after only 4 years? There have to be more worthy candidates.

 

[fgssand]

Gray over Light

McGinest over Vrabel

Leaving Buoniconti off the team would be a travesty. He was the Patriots
first great player.

Jim - I agree with you about Willie and yes Nick B. was an awesome player for us. I watched him for years and was heartbroken, as a kid when we let him get away.

However, Tedy Bruschi MUST be on this team....no question at all. The team is flawed without TB on it. Terrible oversight, who the hell is on this committee??

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

Jim - I agree with you about Willie and yes Nick B. was an awesome player for us. I watched him for years and was heartbroken, as a kid when we let him get away.

However, Tedy Bruschi MUST be on this team....no question at all. The team is flawed without TB on it. Terrible oversight, who the hell is on this committee??

Willie Mac over Vrabel I agree with, no knock on Vrabel I just think Willlie was a better player for a longer period of time. All time playoff sack leader for F's sake. Buoniconti, I never saw play but thought he was a gigantic douche on inside the NFL and never personally associated him with the Pats, much like he did. However 24 pics in 7 years for a MLB is pretty impressive. I would still take Tedy with his 3 rings and 5 Super Bowl appearences over that douche Buoniconti . Nick can have himself a good old time crapping in his Depends with the rest of the idiot Dolphin has beens while Bruschi wins another SB. Other players I thought should be on the list would be Clayborn and Milloy although a case could certainly be made for the players elected.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

And Randy Moss belongs on the list even though it has only been two seasons. Fryar was an ok player who was nothing but trouble during his time in NE and never lived up to expectations and/or draft status while here. Moss set the all time NFL record for receiving TD's in his first season here. I think I would also put Welker ahead of Fryar at this point.