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ProFootballFocus.com - By Team

I've been checkin' this site out recently, so I thought I'd link it for the more statistically inclined.
check the 'player participation' tabs and some of the subcategory tabs under the 'offense' and 'defense' tabs.

I think there's some interesting stuff in there, anyway.
unfortunately, their database of games can be somewhat limited.

and no, I don't work for them and this is not a spam ad.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Looks like a great way to lose an hour or two.

Seriously, though, if you look at it, you can see how the Pats O was basically a one-TE offense almost the entire season (there were a couple of games midseason where they utilized a 2-TE offense with Watson and Thomas). Even Cassel's first start, they didn't appear to go into max-protect mode for him.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Troublesome. They discuss normalization, but when you look at game changing players like Welker & Moss rated down around 100 with a player like Kelly Washington rated higher, you have to say there's a flaw in their system.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Troublesome. They discuss normalization, but when you look at game changing players like Welker & Moss rated down around 100 with a player like Kelly Washington rated higher, you have to say there's a flaw in their system.

Yeah, I'm not sure I buy that either. . . .

 

[SeanBruschi54]

So weird a good way of seeing some numbers but there raises many questions.

For one how did they set up this excel sheet? Some math is obviously wrong

 

[pats1]

The participation stats and formations are truly unique, but the ratings need help. QBs are favored and WRs are not.

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

i don't trust their numbers.

according to them in 2007 the number of plays each player participated in.....

*Randy Moss 1096
*Wes Welker 1011
*Donte' Stallworth 855
*Jabar Gaffney 810
*Kelley Washington 474
*Chad Jackson 64
*Troy Brown 32
*Kyle Brady 734
*Ben Watson 649
*Wesley Britt 113
*Marcellus Rivers 69
*Stephen Spach 64
*Dave Thomas 41
*Matt Light 1123
*Logan Mankins 1123
*Nick Kaczur 1050
*Dan Koppen 1049
*Russ Hochstein 642
*Steve Neal 576
*Ryan O'Callaghan 205
*Billy Yates 117
*Tom Brady 64
Matt Gutierrez 1
Matt Cassel 0
*Heath Evans 493
*Laurence Maroney 313
*Kyle Eckel 226
*Kevin Faulk 171
*Sammy Morris 142

While I don't know the correct number number for Tom Brady, it was greater than 65.

 

[stinkypete]

i don't trust their numbers.

according to them in 2007 the number of plays each player participated in.....

*Randy Moss 1096
*Wes Welker 1011
*Donte' Stallworth 855
*Jabar Gaffney 810
*Kelley Washington 474
*Chad Jackson 64
*Troy Brown 32
*Kyle Brady 734
*Ben Watson 649
*Wesley Britt 113
*Marcellus Rivers 69
*Stephen Spach 64
*Dave Thomas 41
*Matt Light 1123
*Logan Mankins 1123
*Nick Kaczur 1050
*Dan Koppen 1049
*Russ Hochstein 642
*Steve Neal 576
*Ryan O'Callaghan 205
*Billy Yates 117
*Tom Brady 64
Matt Gutierrez 1
Matt Cassel 0
*Heath Evans 493
*Laurence Maroney 313
*Kyle Eckel 226
*Kevin Faulk 171
*Sammy Morris 142

While I don't know the correct number number for Tom Brady, it was greater than 65.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Troy Brown only return two punts during the 2007 season?

 

[spacecrime]

ProFootballFocus.com - By Team

I've been checkin' this site out recently, so I thought I'd link it for the more statistically inclined.
check the 'player participation' tabs and some of the subcategory tabs under the 'offense' and 'defense' tabs.

I think there's some interesting stuff in there, anyway.

Yeah, the ratings are interesting to say the least.

Wes Welker, with 112 catches and 1165 yards is rated #93, well behind a flurry of guys with only one catch for the entire year:

#39 - David Clowney
#45 - Marques Hagans
#50 - Allan Rossum
#52t - Roy Hall
#52t - Kelley Washington
#52t - Eric Weems
#58 - CHAD JACKSON-#58
#63 - Drew Bennett
#72 - Paul Williams
#77t - Jerome Simpson
#84t - Ernest Wilford
#84t - Yamon Figurs
#84t - Steve Sanders


If that isn't weird enough, here are guys with zero catches who rate higher as wide receivers than Welker:

#58t - Mark Bradley
#58t - Brian Clark
#56t - Earl Bennett
#56t - Terrnence Cooper
#74 - Cliff Russell
#77t - Mark Slater
#84t - Adam Jennings
#84t - Eddie Kennison


At RB, former Patriot standout Patrick Cobbs is the 10th best RB in the league, leaving everyone in the dust (Adrian Petersen is #26, Chris Johnson's 1200 yards gets him tied for #67, and the 1000-yard seasons of Frank Gore and Ryan Clark places them at #119 and #127.