BSPN, New York Post feuding over journalism ethics

[TrueBeliever]

(Mods: Feel free to move this thread if you want, I know it probably doesn't belong in the main forum but I wasn't sure where else to put it.)

This is kinda like Chad "Ochocinco" and T.O. arguing over what constitutes appropriate behavior after scoring a touchdown:

NY Post blames ESPN for outing nude reporter video - Yahoo! News

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Moral of the story: next time put tape over the keyhole.

Otherwise, the NYP and ESPN deserve each other.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Gotta laugh at the hypocrits taking each other on. Shame on the NYP for publishing those pictures and then blaming it on ESPN by rationalizing that they outed her by demanding the web site posting the video remove it...

Found another interesting link on that site, though. Might explain why the Goodell-Vick imminent meeting story being driven by ESPN is fizzling. Seems Michael spent his first night of freedom at a VA Beach strip club with the wildly talented and equally undisciplined and therefore currently unemployed NBA'er Allen Iverson.

The Big Lead Blog Archive Mike Vick Spent His First Night Out of Federal Custody Like Any Guy Would Have: At a Strip Club in Virginia Beach

Yeah, Mike's sorry Roger, only he's still dumb as a brick.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I'm not going to claim that ESPN did out Andrews, but sending that legal notice was downright bizarre. The video was up for months before anyone noticed it, and apparently the quality was bad enough that you couldn't even really tell it was her anyways. Rather than ignore it and implicitly state that it wasn't her, the notice only validated it and put it in the spotlight.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Gotta laugh at the hypocrits taking each other on. Shame on the NYP for publishing those pictures and then blaming it on ESPN by rationalizing that they outed her by demanding the web site posting the video remove it...

Found another interesting link on that site, though. Might explain why the Goodell-Vick imminent meeting story being driven by ESPN is fizzling. Seems Michael spent his first night of freedom at a VA Beach strip club with the wildly talented and equally undisciplined and therefore currently unemployed NBA'er Allen Iverson.

The Big Lead Blog Archive Mike Vick Spent His First Night Out of Federal Custody Like Any Guy Would Have: At a Strip Club in Virginia Beach

Yeah, Mike's sorry Roger, only he's still dumb as a brick.

C'mon, can you really blame a guy for wanting to be around some women after doing time in federal prison? I sure as hell can't.

 

[Deus Irae]

Gotta laugh at the hypocrits taking each other on. Shame on the NYP for publishing those pictures and then blaming it on ESPN by rationalizing that they outed her by demanding the web site posting the video remove it...

Found another interesting link on that site, though. Might explain why the Goodell-Vick imminent meeting story being driven by ESPN is fizzling. Seems Michael spent his first night of freedom at a VA Beach strip club with the wildly talented and equally undisciplined and therefore currently unemployed NBA'er Allen Iverson.

The Big Lead Blog Archive Mike Vick Spent His First Night Out of Federal Custody Like Any Guy Would Have: At a Strip Club in Virginia Beach

Yeah, Mike's sorry Roger, only he's still dumb as a brick.

Strip club = legal

 

[MoLewisrocks]

C'mon, can you really blame a guy for wanting to be around some women after doing time in federal prison? I sure as hell can't.

I don't know, his fiance is a woman... The point being, on his first night off house arrest he goes to a strip club with an NBA badboy while awaiting word on his reinstatement visit with Goodell... He could have taken his baby mother and the kids and Mom and Marcus and maybe even his ex and their kid out for a nice apology dinner. At Wendy's. After all he's cost them all millions over the last two years...and the odds are he's never gonna recoup their losses.

I bet when Tony Dungy spent time coaching him THIS WEEK on how to appear sincerely contrite and reformed (the insincerity of that session made me chuckle) in the presence of the Personal Conduct Czar, coach QS probably covered all the same things he used to caution his players on avoiding as OTA's ended... Course some of them didn't listen to old QS either. He must be some kind of counselor...

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Strip club = legal

Tell that to PacMan.

 

[Deus Irae]

Tell that to PacMan.

Pac man had violent confrontations in a strip club. Vick had a dogfighting ring which ran afoul of federal laws. Pacman returned a place similar to the one trouble had come from. Vick didn't head to a dogfight.

 

[spacecrime]

Strip club = legal

Michael Vick = suspended

Just because something is legal doesn't mean it was the smart or even right thing to do. In a crosswalk crossing with the light, you have the legal right to be there. But if you see a sppeding car about to barrel through the red light and cream you, it would be advisable to consider the idea of abandoning your legal rights to further your own best interest.

Vick wants something from the NFL (to get reinstated). The NFL lately has been embarrassed by player's behavior at strip clubs.

How has Vick improved his position by going to the strip club?

 

[Rob0729]

Ok, let me get this correct.

Going on a witch hunt for a coach of your local team's heated rival and be allowed to be used as a PR spokepiece/pawn of a US Senator who is trying to use rumors and allegations and misuse of his Congressional powers to reverse his favorite's football team's loss of a Super Bowl and get his largest campaign donor access to the NFL Network at a reasonable price is ok, but banning reporters from a newspaper who showed images of one of their own on-air reporters naked filmed without her consent or knowledge is just plain wrong.

The NY Times has no right to question anyone's journalistic ethics. They have a long history of yellow journalism and in the past year have had several high profile cases of that whether it be about Belichick or John McCain.

 

[BradyFTW!]

After all he's cost them all millions over the last two years...and the odds are he's never gonna recoup their losses.

He hasn't cost them anything that he didn't provide in the first place.

I agree that it wasn't a good decision, or a moral choice, but that's completely irrelevant and beside the point. Clearly, the guy doesn't share my moral code, and I that's not exactly news. What it comes down to is that on his first night as a free man, he chose to do partake in a legal form of entertainment.

And he also chose to partake in it with a guy who's from the same hometown as him, who's also freakishly talented but never maximized his gifts, who quarterbacked at the same high school that he did, and who has also seen his stock fall drastically in the last couple of years. Maybe he wanted to be around someone who would understand that dynamic, and Iverson was the clearly best choice?

People around here really need to stop being outraged that athletes aren't always fine, upstanding family men.

 

[BradyFTW!]

The NY Times has no right to question anyone's journalistic ethics. They have a long history of yellow journalism and in the past year have had several high profile cases of that whether it be about Belichick or John McCain.

New York Post != New York Times.

 

[Rob0729]

New York Post != New York Times.

Oops! Sorry about that. I got a little thing about the Times if you can't tell.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Oops! Sorry about that. I got a little thing about the Times if you can't tell.

Hahaha no worries, I made the same mistake the first few times through this thread before I caught it, and the point that you were trying to make re: the Times goes doubly so for the Post anyways. Neither outlet is in a position to be questioning anyone else's credibility, although in this case I think they're both right.

ESPN essentially outed the Erin Andrews tape, which was either colossally stupid or a calculating move. I'm going to go with the latter. It was tasteless and unwarranted for NYP to post pictures from the tape. They both belong in the gutter, and the fact that they're slinging mud at each other over who sucks more just makes it all even funnier.

 

[Patjew]

Pac man had violent confrontations in a strip club. Vick had a dogfighting ring which ran afoul of federal laws. Pacman returned a place similar to the one trouble had come from. Vick didn't head to a dogfight.

Vick brought his dogs to a strip club?

 

[Patjew]

He hasn't cost them anything that he didn't provide in the first place.

I agree that it wasn't a good decision, or a moral choice, but that's completely irrelevant and beside the point. Clearly, the guy doesn't share my moral code, and I that's not exactly news. What it comes down to is that on his first night as a free man, he chose to do partake in a legal form of entertainment.

And he also chose to partake in it with a guy who's from the same hometown as him, who's also freakishly talented but never maximized his gifts, who quarterbacked at the same high school that he did, and who has also seen his stock fall drastically in the last couple of years. Maybe he wanted to be around someone who would understand that dynamic, and Iverson was the clearly best choice?

People around here really need to stop being outraged that athletes aren't always fine, upstanding family men.

I disagree with that. I think AI has gotten more out of his body then 99.999% of athletes.

 

[A.C Vegas]

It cracks me up how many people attack athletes for going to strip clubs. do you see people attacking cops, construction workers, Computer techinctians and, the like for doing it. We need to stop thinking atletes are specal cause they can so something better then we caopuld ever dream of.

 

[Patriotic]

Vick brought his dogs to a strip club?

"What were you thinking, Michael?"

"It was the ***** Cat Lounge."

 

[lurker1965]

There is another thread about it, but FYI the Vick to a strip club story is denied by Vick.