So who will be cut given 6 will have to go??

[Box_O_Rocks]

Why would you have DeVree in that category?? If anything, many see him as a possibilty of a 4th tight end..not TC fodder. I would agree with the logjam of WRs..a few will go.

My list of possibles was three times as long as Urgents, I just didn't see any clear cuts without some situational guidance so I hung up the pencil and let BB make his own mind up without me. The one place I would look closely at though is OL...

 

[Pats726]

My list of possibles was three times as long as Urgents, I just didn't see any clear cuts without some situational guidance so I hung up the pencil and let BB make his own mind up without me. The one place I would look closely at though is OL...

I agree..the OL could be a place for a few...I would not ever even THINK I could make or decide those cuts in any way..but just opening it up for speculation as they will happen soon. I'm not sure I could come up with 20..but who knows what will happen in the next two weeks.

 

[Urgent]

On DeVree: I think he is the fifth, not fourth TE.
At top three, some order of Baker, Smith, and Watson.
Then you have David Thomas, who has athleticism and talent, but hasn't produced well at all so far.
Then DeVree.

At OL, after Wendell, you have:
Al Johnson - veteran center, former starter, fairly likely to be given a look to see if the Pats could use an interior OL back-up who is a center first, guard second, rather than the reverse
Wesley Britt - looked good in his first season, then horrible last year, but has a couple years on the roster, some experience
Billy Yates - famous for being the highest-paid practice squad guy in history, I believe, so the Pats could keep him around and develop him. He started while Neal was out last year, and was ineffective - but he has been a starter here
Ryan O'Callaghan - behind Kaczur on the depth chart, and now Vollmer as well, but also has some starting experience and coming back from injury.
Mark LeVoir - played well as a back-up last year

Could easily see one of these, in addition to Wendell, but each can make a decent case. If I had to guess, I'd probably go with Britt, given the depth with LeVoir, O'Callaghan, and Vollmer.

Obviously easier for the team to use Military Reserve if that's appropriate.

 

[Pats726]

On DeVree: I think he is the fifth, not fourth TE.
At top three, some order of Baker, Smith, and Watson.
Then you have David Thomas, who has athleticism and talent, but hasn't produced well at all so far.
Then DeVree.

No..you missed what I was saying..as of now he's the fifth TE...but some pundits think DeVree could be the fourth TE on the 53 man roster.

At OL, after Wendell, you have:
Al Johnson - veteran center, former starter, fairly likely to be given a look to see if the Pats could use an interior OL back-up who is a center first, guard second, rather than the reverse
Wesley Britt - looked good in his first season, then horrible last year, but has a couple years on the roster, some experience
Billy Yates - famous for being the highest-paid practice squad guy in history, I believe, so the Pats could keep him around and develop him. He started while Neal was out last year, and was ineffective - but he has been a starter here
Ryan O'Callaghan - behind Kaczur on the depth chart, and now Vollmer as well, but also has some starting experience and coming back from injury.
Mark LeVoir - played well as a back-up last year
Could easily see one of these, in addition to Wendell, but each can make a decent case. If I had to guess, I'd probably go with Britt, given the depth with LeVoir, O'Callaghan, and Vollmer.

All true..but what this thread is about is who will be cut to get to 80...I really think it unlikely that Yates, Britt or O'Callaghan would be cut prior to camp, although stranger things have happened in the past.

Obviously easier for the team to use Military Reserve if that's appropriate.

I agree..but I wonder if they would use that MR classification on all three?? Will be interesting to see what happens this week.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

On DeVree: I think he is the fifth, not fourth TE.
At top three, some order of Baker, Smith, and Watson.
Then you have David Thomas, who has athleticism and talent, but hasn't produced well at all so far.
Then DeVree.

At OL, after Wendell, you have:
Al Johnson - veteran center, former starter, fairly likely to be given a look to see if the Pats could use an interior OL back-up who is a center first, guard second, rather than the reverse
Wesley Britt - looked good in his first season, then horrible last year, but has a couple years on the roster, some experience
Billy Yates - famous for being the highest-paid practice squad guy in history, I believe, so the Pats could keep him around and develop him. He started while Neal was out last year, and was ineffective - but he has been a starter here
Ryan O'Callaghan - behind Kaczur on the depth chart, and now Vollmer as well, but also has some starting experience and coming back from injury.
Mark LeVoir - played well as a back-up last year

Could easily see one of these, in addition to Wendell, but each can make a decent case. If I had to guess, I'd probably go with Britt, given the depth with LeVoir, O'Callaghan, and Vollmer.

Obviously easier for the team to use Military Reserve if that's appropriate.

I wouldn't exclude Hochstein from that list, nor Al Johnson and Jermail Porter. Like you I'm reluctant to cut any OL at this point, but like WR, OL is an area where there's a bit of depth to play with. Neal, when healthy, is near All-Pro caliber, I don't see the value in cutting him.

LeVoir missed OTAs and mini-camp
Warren missed OTAs and mini-camp
Mayo missed OTAs and mini-camp
Green missed OTAs and mini-camp
Ventrone missed OTAs and mini-camp
Richardson missed OTAs and mini-camp
Meriweather missed OTAs and mini-camp
McGowan missed OTAs and mini-camp
McKenzie missed OTAs and mini-camp
Tate missed OTAs and mini-camp
White and Barnes also missed OTAs and mini-camp

Any of the above are candidates for Reserve PUP if their rehab projection suggests they'll miss most of preseason. I wouldn't want to lose any of them to PUP, but this is the pool most likely to be drawn from. I could see BB looking at veterans like Ventrone and Richardson and PUPping them to come back mid-season for depth and Special Teams. With O'Callaghan back and healthy, PUPping LeVoir might be considered. I'd certainly want Ty Warren fully healthy before he plays again.

I don't see DeVree being cut, he's reportedly been impressing the coaches and I see Watson, Baker, and DeVree as the primary in-line TEs while Smith and Thomas are working as H-backs. The pool is just right for the start of Training Camp.

 

[pats1]

I wouldn't exclude Hochstein from that list, nor Al Johnson and Jermail Porter. Like you I'm reluctant to cut any OL at this point, but like WR, OL is an area where there's a bit of depth to play with. Neal, when healthy, is near All-Pro caliber, I don't see the value in cutting him.

LeVoir missed OTAs and mini-camp
Warren missed OTAs and mini-camp
Mayo missed OTAs and mini-camp
Green missed OTAs and mini-camp
Ventrone missed OTAs and mini-camp
Richardson missed OTAs and mini-camp
Meriweather missed OTAs and mini-camp
McGowan missed OTAs and mini-camp
McKenzie missed OTAs and mini-camp
Tate missed OTAs and mini-camp
White and Barnes also missed OTAs and mini-camp

Any of the above are candidates for Reserve PUP if their rehab projection suggests they'll miss most of preseason. I wouldn't want to lose any of them to PUP, but this is the pool most likely to be drawn from. I could see BB looking at veterans like Ventrone and Richardson and PUPping them to come back mid-season for depth and Special Teams. With O'Callaghan back and healthy, PUPping LeVoir might be considered. I'd certainly want Ty Warren fully healthy before he plays again.

I don't see DeVree being cut, he's reportedly been impressing the coaches and I see Watson, Baker, and DeVree as the primary in-line TEs while Smith and Thomas are working as H-backs. The pool is just right for the start of Training Camp.

To play devil's advocate (although historically this sometimes hasn't been the case), Belichick might have just held those guys out of offseason workouts for precautionary reasons and they'll be 100% come camp. I think that's what we're going to see out of Mayo. And besides, I think 4-5 Reserve/PUPs would be an unprecented number around here...

(Although, there is unprecedented roster depth this year...)

 

[farn]

(Although, there is unprecedented roster depth this year...)

It's true - there seems to be quite a few quality backups available this season - how it's all gonna shake down might make this a TC to remember. Rumours are that BB plans to make it a difficult camp physically. Maybe they'll need tonnes of bodies. He might prefer going hard and losing a few backups than being cautious.

 

[Pats726]

And besides, I think 4-5 Reserve/PUPs would be an unprecented number around here...(Although, there is unprecedented roster depth this year...)

Well 4-5 would be a LOT..but in 07..there were 4 on Reserve PUP....DE-Seymour, WR-TBrown, WR-CJackson and DB-EJackson
I tend to agree with you that a lot of these players may have been held out for precautionary reasons. The one player I have a bit of concern about is Warren.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

To play devil's advocate (although historically this sometimes hasn't been the case), Belichick might have just held those guys out of offseason workouts for precautionary reasons and they'll be 100% come camp. I think that's what we're going to see out of Mayo. And besides, I think 4-5 Reserve/PUPs would be an unprecented number around here...

(Although, there is unprecedented roster depth this year...)

Precautionary is just another way of saying rehab, it doesn't mean they won't be ready in time for Camp or Preseason, but it means they need the trainer's release, anything less and they'd be allowed to participate in OTAs. That's not to say some declined to participate in voluntary activity like Wilfork did, but that's become very rare for NE players. The numbers held out of OTAs seem about normal, I'd not expect more than one or two are being considered for Reserve PUP, unless BB really does want to use it to carry a couple veteran back-of-the-roster players into mid-season as injury replacements. I still wonder if Ty McKenzie might wind up on Reserve PUP vice IR...

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I still wonder if Ty McKenzie might wind up on Reserve PUP vice (sic) IR...

Good point, given our need at ILB and Tedy's age. Obviously depends on the specifics of his ACL injury. Hopefully he's already had the surgery. Once that's done and results assessed it's up to his progress in rehab. From what we've read about his character and approach to adversity, given good surgery with a good prognosis, he'll likely be a rehab star. He'd need to be able to practise in early November to come off PUP. Reserve PUP seems the place to put him...once he's signed.

Shadow Roster Seau is another possible late season ILB emergemcy pickup, assuming that he doesn't lose too much of his Social Security benefits check from working.

 

[APatrioticVirginian]

watson, seymour,maroney....in a perfect world

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

watson, seymour,maroney....in a perfect world

Damn these Jets fans posting here under false pretenses!

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Damn these Jets fans posting here under false pretenses!

Too late, Jets fans are already damned.

 

[APatrioticVirginian]

Damn these Jets fans posting here under false pretenses!

Thems fighting words

 

[Reckedtrek]

I think DeVree will make the final roster, and I think Dave Thomas is cut. It won't break my heart if/when it happens. The Colts will then pick him up as he's already helped the team win one already.

 

[cubedoggy]

Gotta say, if came to Hochstein and Thomas, I'd take the big guy. We do need a goal line FB.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Thems fighting words

Walk like a duck and quack like one, and well, you know.

 

[supafly]

watson, seymour,maroney....in a perfect world

You are either trying to get under everyone's skin to the 10th degree, or seriously don't wanna see this team succeed (?) Regardless, either choice doesn't add too much to this forum

You cannot possibly want to get rid of our #1 TE, our #1 RB, and the #1 overall 3-4 DE in the game all in the same thought (can you?)

Whether or not you care for these players is completely irrelevant, they are all the #1 choice for the particular position, and give the team the best chance of winning

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

You are either trying to get under everyone's skin to the 10th degree, or seriously don't wanna see this team succeed (?) Regardless, either choice doesn't add too much to this forum

You cannot possibly want to get rid of our #1 TE, our #1 RB, and the #1 overall 3-4 DE in the game all in the same thought (can you?)

Whether or not you care for these players is completely irrelevant, they are all the #1 choice for the particular position, and give the team the best chance of winning

Yo! You SO fly!

 

[lurker1965]

Since last year I though Cassel would be cut, I will forever hold my peace. (And I'll hold my piece since that feels so good. )