Man has to panhandle to pay back Tom Brady

[Sivy]

Brady beggar scores big help from reader - BostonHerald.com

funny. where is my 4000 bucks?

 

[PATRIOT64]

Now some ******s who are writing blogs at Stampede Blue and Gang Green are calling Brady a jerk for getting justice done saying he is rich and does not need it and other crap.

If it were Manning or Sanchez totally different story I suppose

 

[Deus Irae]

If you take something that is not yours - you are stealing. If you walk onto someone property and take something that is not yours you are trespassing and stealing.

These are fairly simple things to apply to your daily life - However you want to justify it is the basis of your own moral code.

Another example of how celebrities and athletes are treated different than everyone else in the public eye.

When you put something in the trash, it's no longer yours. That makes a big difference in the situation.

 

[Patjew]

When you put something in the trash, it's no longer yours. That makes a big difference in the situation.

Maybe if it's on the sidewalk. But if the "trash" is on your property it is still 100% yours and no one has the right to come on your property and take it.

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Patriots should hire this guy.....ya never know when we might need to kick a field goal in a snowstorm.

 

[Double G]

What a wonderful, moving story; some sh!tstain of an ex con steals, profits off of it and has some do gooder pay off his debt.

What a wonderful world we live in where all you have to do when you are found guilty of a crime is have a rag like the Herald make front page news out of it and some sap will come running to your rescue.

Terrific.

 

[DefenseRules]

What a wonderful, moving story; some sh!tstain of an ex con steals, profits off of it and has some do gooder pay off his debt.

What a wonderful world we live in where all you have to do when you are found guilty of a crime is have a rag like the Herald make front page news out of it and some sap will come running to your rescue.

Terrific.

And yet you all continue to read that piece of filth called the Herald. Until the public steps up and lets these @#$% know that we don't appreciate their reporting, they will continue to report garbage. Tom Brady should refuse to do any interviews with that piece of crap newspaper. I'm sorry after that spygate fiasco that they reported before the Super Bowl, I have no use for them. I don't read their trash and I don't BELIEVE ANYTHING they write. These clowns dance around the truth like nobody's business.
Bob Kraft should have bought that newspaper and dismantled it piece by piece. I hate everything about that publication.

 

[JR4]

I believe no matter how Brady responded to this event the
there would have been brainless fans of other teams that would
have trashed Tom.

If he gets compensation -- "mean rich dude"

If he let the guy off the hook -- "no sense of justice"

From my point of view ... sometimes it is good to show mercy and
sometimes it is not. Depends on the situation.

 

[BradyManny]

When you put something in the trash, it's no longer yours. That makes a big difference in the situation.

I suppose, but it doesn't make it any less wrong. When I'm putting my trash out on Thursday nite, I'm not handing it out to whoever wants it - I am putting it there so the city can collect it the ensuing morning and dispose of it. I am not sure why it's legal for anyone to riffle through my crap at 2AM in the morning. As a result of this being the reality, I am forced to instead make sure I'm up early enough to put it out Friday morning, and avoid the midnite dumpster divers that inhabit the areas I've lived in, ie Cambridge/Somerville.

Specifically to Brady, I find it unlikely that this ex-con is as innocent as it seems. Some authority not named Tom Brady decided that he had to pay restitutions. The reality is Brady probably has no idea about it, and its an issue between the con and whoever manages Brady's condo.

 

[TrueBeliever]

When you put something in the trash, it's no longer yours. That makes a big difference in the situation.

First of all, it wasn't trash, it was personal property left outside Brady's door by a deliveryman.

Second, legally when you put something in the trash it is still yours until it's hauled away (like PatJew said.) I used to work as a phone agent for a company here that sells Wisconsin cheese, meat, candy, etc. by mail (don't ask me how they deliver it without it spoiling); and there was a big warning in the employee handbook about how anyone caught going through the trash for stuff would be charged with theft (and any employee who did it would be fired.)

Also, I liked this reader comment at the end of the Herald story linked above:

Greenwald must have never heard of worthy causes like Dana Farber, Children's Hospital, or Shriner's Burn Center to name a few. Interesting how the publicity whore made sure his name made it into the paper. An old aging Greyhound is more deserving of help than this beggar ex-con.

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

First of all, it wasn't trash, it was personal property left outside Brady's door by a deliveryman.

Second, legally when you put something in the trash it is still yours until it's hauled away (like PatJew said.) I used to work as a phone agent for a company here that sells Wisconsin cheese, meat, candy, etc. by mail (don't ask me how they deliver it without it spoiling); and there was a big warning in the employee handbook about how anyone caught going through the trash for stuff would be charged with theft (and any employee who did it would be fired.)

Also, I liked this reader comment at the end of the Herald story linked above:

Two things.

One, if you put it the trash, it is not yours. It is abandoned and if someone else takes it, that is not theft. Could be a tresspass to property, if your garbage pails are on your property, if they are on the curb or in a common area it is perfectly legal.

Two, the employement situation is not relevent. The concern your former employer had is that an employee would throw out saleable merchadise and then retrieve it from the trash later, if employees were permitted to dumpster dive. It would be this from of embezzlement the company was worried about and that would be theft. Random person taking cheese from the dumpster is not theft.

 

[TrueBeliever]

Two, the employement situation is not relevent. The concern your former employer had is that an employee would throw out saleable merchadise and then retrieve it from the trash later, if employees were permitted to dumpster dive. It would be this from of embezzlement the company was worried about and that would be theft. Random person taking cheese from the dumpster is not theft.

Um, I worked there and I read the thing - ANYBODY who took stuff out of the trash would be arrested. I could get a copy of it and post a scan if you want.

 

[IcyPatriot]

I'm pretty sure I gave that guy $5.

Let's pass the hat in the forum why don't we.

 

[PATSNUTme]

 

[efin98]

Um, I worked there and I read the thing - ANYBODY who took stuff out of the trash would be arrested. I could get a copy of it and post a scan if you want.

Doesn't mean its against the law though...took a Supreme Court ruling to allow you to take stuff from the garbage legally.

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Um, I worked there and I read the thing - ANYBODY who took stuff out of the trash would be arrested. I could get a copy of it and post a scan if you want.

Don't bother.

I believe it was in your employee manual and that YOU are not lying about it. Doesn't mean it is an actual crime. The person who wrote the manual may have honestly thought that they could convince the DA to prosecute on theft or maybe they knew it was bull**** and put it in their anyway just to make a point, but either way it was false.

The company could get anyone in their dumpster on tresspass, but not theft.

 

[Deus Irae]

Maybe if it's on the sidewalk. But if the "trash" is on your property it is still 100% yours and no one has the right to come on your property and take it.

Without getting all this down to a point were it's too technical for people, it's really a curtilage issue under California v. Greenwood. However, if you leave your garbage on the edge of your property and expect the garbageman to pick it up at that point, you're not going to be able to win any property or privacy argument in court.

 

[jmt57]

The fact that the Herald starts of by writing "the QB, by the way, will earn some $30 million this year in salary and endorsements", finishes the column with "Brady, wife Gisele Bundchen, and son Jack were spotted at Disneyland in Anaheim the other day. Meanwhile, Dennis was out yesterday asking passersby for spare change", and runs the story without giving Brady or a member of the realty trust a chance to comment - well, that pretty much sums up the Herald's motives. At what point does Kraft and the Patriots organization revoke their media credentials?

 

[shmessy]

When you put something in the trash, it's no longer yours. That makes a big difference in the situation.

Brady beggar scores big help from reader - BostonHerald.com

"But the items he lifted, which he said he thought were being tossed out, were $8,000 flower boxes THAT A DELIVERYMAN LEFT FOR the New England Patriots [team stats] quarterback."


Any questions, Deus?

 

[shmessy]

Two things.

One, if you put it the trash, it is not yours. It is abandoned and if someone else takes it, that is not theft. Could be a tresspass to property, if your garbage pails are on your property, if they are on the curb or in a common area it is perfectly legal.......

Good God, what in this sentence from the Herald article did you not understand?

"But the items he lifted, which he said he thought were being tossed out, were $8,000 flower boxes THAT A DELIVERYMAN LEFT FOR the New England Patriots [team stats] quarterback."