WEEI.com: McNair's Legacy One Of Grit And Toughness

[APatrioticVirginian]

Just so we are straight on this. Your saying a pocket qb will receive bigger hits because he stands in the pocket.
So, how many times will a LB or CB break free untouched to sack the QB?
Now, how many times will a running QB get hit in the open field without his blockers? Oh BTW, McNair would go for the extra yardage rather then slide or run OB.
I don't ever remember McNair complaining about his injuries. In the article, the author called him a bad-ass, it wasn't first person.

I would say Brady gets hit way more and is more often hit in a defenseless position i.e. throwing the ball. Sacks aint the only time Brady is getting hit. To my other point how did we know every injury Mcnair had? We heard every little bump or scratch. Thats why I say he was a squeaky wheel. If he was so tough me you and ESPN would never have heard about it.

 

[The Coon]

APV,

I agree with you on the point that Brady is one tough SOB and has taken more punishment than people realize (even minus the knee injury last year.)

But cmon man do you remember watching McNair play football? That guy was the QB version of Walter Payton, never trying to run away from contact, always creating contact. He took some brutal hits in his career to the point where he needed the full week of practice to heal himself for next sunday. Career wise that may not have been smart long term (he was pretty much done by his early 30s) but thats the way he had to play to make his team successful since he didnt have the best weapons on those tennessee teams.

McNair was a tough SOB whose legacy is two fold: remembered now for dying too soon and football wise as one of the toughest competitors to ever play the game.

 

[APatrioticVirginian]

He took some brutal hits in his career to the point where he needed the full week of practice to heal himself for next sunday. .

Think about that for a moment though. He was so tough he missed practice and still played? Whoa impressive. Maybe just maybe he didnt want to practice. ala Plexiglass Bareass? Just saying

 

[The Coon]

Think about that for a moment though. He was so tough he missed practice and still played? Whoa impressive. Maybe just maybe he didnt want to practice. ala Plexiglass Bareass? Just saying

You would think that after the fallout with tennessee towards the end of McNairs career to the time until his retirement, some teammate, coach, GM, somebody would comment on your opinion that McNair just didnt want to practice and that he wasnt hurt enough to miss practice. But Everything ive heard says that he was tough as nails, and players loved to have him on their side every sunday.

Just because many of brady's injuries werent brought up (could be because BB didnt really like to disclose injuries to the media) and more of McNair and McNabbs injuries were talked about doesnt mean theyre less tough. Lets just end this discussion and say that they were both tough.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

Think about that for a moment though. He was so tough he missed practice and still played? Whoa impressive. Maybe just maybe he didnt want to practice. ala Plexiglass Bareass? Just saying

It would be nice if you would provide some facts to back up your incredibly dumb comments

 

[BradyFTW!]

Think about that for a moment though. He was so tough he missed practice and still played? Whoa impressive. Maybe just maybe he didnt want to practice. ala Plexiglass Bareass? Just saying

Or what it probably means is that he was being absolutely loaded up with cortisone shots and painkillers just so that he could pull himself together and get his body out onto the field on gameday. If you did that for practice as well, you'd be in the hospital in a matter of days.

He's far from the only guy to do it. Don't you find it at all strange how often guys are down for the count on Sunday, miss an entire week's worth of practices, but then suddenly they're good to go the following Sunday? Hell, a lot of the time it doesn't even take that long. You see a guy limp off to the locker room in the first half, barely able to walk, then at the start of the second half he sprints back out with his teammates. Hmmm, what could that be about? Maybe they have a faith healer performing miracles in the locker room?

Of course not, and it's destructive as hell- these guys are in tremendous amounts of pain for a reason, and to dose them up and send them out onto the field just destroys their bodies. McNair just took it to an entirely new, selfless (and unbelievably shortsighted), and tough extreme. The guy was a warrior, and insisting otherwise is just ignoring the testaments of everyone who worked with or around him in any capacity because you've decided not to like the guy.

If you want to argue that he was getting hurt as much as he was because his conditioning wasn't necessarily the best, there were whispers about that for a while while he was with the Titans. Even that was largely understandable, though, since he spent so much time recovering from his injuries and presumably having god knows how many unreported offseason surgeries that I'm sure he had to be off his feet a ton.

 

[scout]

Think about that for a moment though. He was so tough he missed practice and still played? Whoa impressive. Maybe just maybe he didnt want to practice. ala Plexiglass Bareass? Just saying

After a few seasons, Bill Russell never practiced with the Celtics. Was he a slacker too?
In regards to your comment about McNair running out of bounds, he is fifth on the all-time rushing qb's list. I'm guessing he is not as elusive as the four in front of him (Cunningham, Young, Vick, Tarkenton), thus was hit more often. So he ran out of bounds alot, yet still managed to put up those rushing numbers?

 

[APatrioticVirginian]

After a few seasons, Bill Russell never practiced with the Celtics. Was he a slacker too?
In regards to your comment about McNair running out of bounds, he is fifth on the all-time rushing qb's list. I'm guessing he is not as elusive as the four in front of him (Cunningham, Young, Vick, Tarkenton), thus was hit more often. So he ran out of bounds alot, yet still managed to put up those rushing numbers?

Seems so huh?

 

[Pats726]

It would be nice if you would provide some facts to back up your incredibly dumb comments

That would be a bit hard..but you can ask....THAT would be interesting if he could find some. I especially wish to see the ones about injuries...you know he's a doctor as well..so..maybe some can be found.

 

[APatrioticVirginian]

It would be nice if you would provide some facts to back up your incredibly dumb comments

It would be nice if you could understand them.

 

[BradyFTW!]

It would be nice if you could understand them.

What you offered was a baseless and dumb claim that's contradicted by reality, facts, and common sense. He was probably giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that there was an actual thought process to understand, which there wasn't.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

It would be nice if you could understand them.

oooooooh. im offended, and will now cry to everyone about how ive been personally insulted. Maybe i should send an IM to Andy, and tell him how to be a Mod.


Man seriously, grow up, contribute, or leave! :beatingcoming:

 

[APatrioticVirginian]

:singing::singing::singing:

oooooooh. im offended, and will now cry to everyone about how ive been personally insulted. Maybe i should send an IM to Andy, and tell him how to be a Mod.


Man seriously, grow up, contribute, or leave! :beatingcoming:

 

[lurker1965]

I have to disagree with McNair's so called legacy of toughness. McNair to me was a guy who was ALWAYS hurt or had some issue. There are other QB's who have played in the NFL who have taken worse shots than him and have played just as long as him. If you keep putting it out there about the injuries, then the press so going to run with it.

I seen Aikman and Young take some knock out hits and you don't see the same title of being tough linked to their names because they didn't use it as a crutch.

The guy who could use the injury crutch should be Eddie George. He was the guy who took the punishment for that team.

"crutch" may be harsh but you might like
Cold, Hard Football Facts.com: Steve McNair, by the numbers

McNair leaves behind a pro football legacy as a “tough guy” constantly praised by the "pundits" for his ability to play through injury. Of course, if you pitch it another way, it looks like this: McNair was constantly injured and couldn’t stand up to the rigors of pro football like the true NFL ironmen such as Brett Favre and Peyton Manning. It’s all in the media spin.

 

[lurker1965]

I still say his football legacy is way overdone. I suspect that most players play every week with one ailment or the other. He seemed to be the little kid who covered himself in band-aids for attention. Wanna know who I think is tough? Course you do if you are reading this you must value my opinion. Wait for it....Brady. Why Brady you say? But the media doesnt say that! You say. Two Words...Sports frickin hernia...He had it we didnt know it. Handled it after the season. This was the same year the media was gushing over Mcnabb and his toughness(he soon went down for the season as well). I think we all know Tom had a broken foot against the giants as well.

I never saw him saying things like "Ooh, my arm." If you have cause to complain it is at the "media."

Gee, a Patriots fan that thinks the "media" over hyped a story. Whodathunkit?

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

"crutch" may be harsh but you might like
Cold, Hard Football Facts.com: Steve McNair, by the numbers

#6 was especially uncalled for...but oh well. I must've missed the part in the article where it proved that McNair wasnt a tough QB who played through injuries. Thats what 'apatrioticvirginian', and 'pats68' were trying to explain to us, without much success.