Vollmer and tackles of the last 20 years

[IcyPatriot]

Looking back at the tackles over the last 20 years not named Light and Armstrong ...
honorable mention to Steve "Big House" Moore who I liked a lot.

Perhaps I missed one here or there and I picked 20 years because the O-Line in the mid 80's was good.
Some of them were okay...a few good games here and there none stuck around long enough to matter.

Just a draft pick at this point but here's the names he's up against.
So am I optimistic ... yup. Will he be the RT ... can he beat out Kaczur? I hope so.

Nick Kaczur
Ryan O'Callahan
Tom Ashworth
Brandon Gorin
Adrian Klemm
Kenyatta Jones
Greg Randall
Grant Williams
Max Lane ... :ugh:
Ed Ellis
Zefross Moss
Scott Rehberg
William Roberts
Pat Harlow
Todd Jones
Eugene Chung
Freddie Childress
Stan Clayton
Chris Gambol
David Viaene
Damian Johnson
David Douglas
Tom Rehder

 

[mgteich]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

You are right to separate out Armstrong and Light. We have had quality LT's in those two.

However, which RT's do you consider better than average out of this list. How many startd the pro-bowl more than once? How many are HOF bound?

Looking at this list of RT's, Vollmer looks like a pretty good prospect.

Looking back at the tackles over the last 20 years not named Light and Armstrong .. honorable mention to Steve "Big House" Moore.

Perhaps I missed one here or there and I picked 20 years because the O-Line in the mid 80's was good.
Some of them were okay...a few good games here and there none stuck around long enough to matter.

Just a draft pick at this point but here's the names he's up against.
So am I optimistic ... yup. Will he be the RT ... can he beat out Kaczur? I hope so.

Nick Kaczur
Ryan O'Callahan
Tom Ashworth
Brandon Gorin
Adrian Klemm
Kenyatta Jones
Greg Randall
Grant Williams
Max Lane ... :ugh:
Ed Ellis
Zefross Moss
Scott Rehberg
William Roberts
Pat Harlow
Todd Jones
Eugene Chung
Freddie Childress
Stan Clayton
Chris Gambol
David Viaene
Damian Johnson
David Douglas
Tom Rehder

 

[The Coon]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

Zefross Moss was not spectacular by any means but he was decent for a RT, and i remember him playing with that huge cast on one of his arms so for basically playing with one good arm, not too bad.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

Zefross Moss was not spectacular by any means but he was decent for a RT, and i remember him playing with that huge cast on one of his arms so for basically playing with one good arm, not too bad.

Moss was okay ... we got him for a 4th round pick but we got him at the end of his career.
The best thing about Moss was that it moved Max Lane to guard ... too bad not the bench.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

I may be in the minority here, but I think that Kaczur is a pretty good RT. Although Light is certainly better, I still think we could use an upgrade at LT more than one at RT.

 

[JSn]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

I may be in the minority here, but I think that Kaczur is a pretty good RT. Although Light is certainly better, I still think we could use an upgrade at LT more than one at RT.

Agreed. Kaczur is a quality RT. Check his stats.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

I may be in the minority here, but I think that Kaczur is a pretty good RT. Although Light is certainly better, I still think we could use an upgrade at LT more than one at RT.

You're not in the minority. Plenty of us on this board think that Kaczur is just fine. My main concern has always been the health at RG. Last years drop off when Neal was out, was very noticeable. Yates made me nuts, but Levoir (sp) looks like good depth at tackle.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

You're not in the minority. Plenty of us on this board think that Kaczur is just fine. My main concern has always been the health at RG. Last years drop off when Neal was out, was very noticeable. Yates made me nuts, but Levoir (sp) looks like good depth at tackle.

Oh man, don't remind me. I'll be downright surprised if the Penn State kid can't beat out Yates on the depth chart.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

Oh man, don't remind me. I'll be downright surprised if the Penn State kid can't beat out Yates on the depth chart.

Im thinking we see the same 5 starters (barring injuries), but the quality in depth should be alot better this year. I hope

 

[BradyFTW!]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

Im thinking we see the same 5 starters (barring injuries), but the quality in depth should be alot better this year. I hope

Definitely, same 5 starters would be fantastic. Let's just pray that Neal can stay healthy.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

Agreed. Kaczur is a quality RT. Check his stats.

Kazur can run block a bit but only at the line ... isn't worth crap upfield and his feet are like in mud when he blocks a guy with some speed ... I think he sucks way bad ... the weakest link of the starters last year.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

Kazur can run block a bit but only at the line ... isn't worth crap upfield and his feet are like in mud when he blocks a guy with some speed ... I think he sucks way bad ... the weakest link of the starters last year.

JSN asked for some facts. I saved you some time. Here's some info about Kaczur being better than you think

Point of attack: Patriots run blocking - AFC East - ESPN

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/216003-sacks-allowed.html

Looking at his stats, one could conclude that he is NOT that bad. Making you, the weakest link in this thread jk

 

[farn]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

Kenyatta ? What's not to love ! If only we could get him back in camp.

 

[363839]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

Hey IcyPatriot, Why the face palm for Max Lane?
I mean wasn't he supposed to be good because he was versatile.
He sucked as bad at tackle as he did at guard.

 

[satz]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

Not any bash Light thread,

maybe we can trade him to the colts for the guy they picked 32nd last year.
peyton would love that and we have a high picked LT who is 24 .

 

[IcyPatriot]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

Hey IcyPatriot, Why the face palm for Max Lane?
I mean wasn't he supposed to be good because he was versatile.
He sucked as bad at tackle as he did at guard.

the :ugh: was because as i was typing his name I remembered him being steamrolled.

 

[363839]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

the :ugh: was because as i was typing his name I remembered him being steamrolled.

Who could forget Max-Reggie White's *****-Lane.:ugh:

 

[Wax Frog]

Re: Vollmer and Tackles of the Last 20 Years.

Who could forget Max-Reggie White's *****-Lane.:ugh:

I think it's called dissociative amnesia

 

[Terry Glenn is a cowgirl]

LG and maybe C are alright to stay, but, all other positions should be upgraded (maybe even C too).

Light is just OK. Nothing great. Maybe a better RT.

Kazcur is a backup.

RG is a major weakness.

Vollmer sounds intriguing... hopefully will be the anchor for 10+ years.

 

[363839]

LG and maybe C are alright to stay, but, all other positions should be upgraded (maybe even C too).

Light is just OK. Nothing great. Maybe a better RT.

Kazcur is a backup.

RG is a major weakness.

Vollmer sounds intriguing... hopefully will be the anchor for 10+ years.

You don't like a healthy Stephen Neal.
I think you might be slighting a pretty decent player here.
Agree with the rest.