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Fresh off the first day of rookie mini-camp, here are my initial thoughts and reactions from the two practices that took place in dreary, breezy weather on the practice fields behind Gillette Stadium. The practices took place in shorts, helmets and jerseys. There were 30 bodies on the field including the 12 draft picks, five signed rookie free agents, three first-year veterans (TE Brad Listorti, LB Angelo Craig and OL Ryan Wendell) as well as 10 unamed tryout players.

– Darius Butler had an up-and-down day. He’s been sold to us as an elite athlete with impressive experience in all three phases of the game. I thought he struggled a little bit today, especially during the morning workout. I expected to see a natural athlete who stood out greatly from each of the other 29 players on the field. I didn’t. He dropped a couple punts, got beat by a couple tryout WRs and just didn’t look as smooth and fluid as I expected. He bounced back with a much better afternoon practice, though. He made a couple nice breaks on the ball in the second session. He had much tighter coverage.

– Brian Hoyer looked pretty good throwing the ball. He doesn’t have a cannon, but seems to have the arm to make most of the throws. It was a little windy and wet, and I think a few balls slipped out of his hands. But overall I thought he looked OK with less-than-desirable group of WRs running routes for him. He has a chance to be competitive in training camp and could stick around at the third QB.

–As I said above, the receivers struggled. Many were slipping all over the field including No. 15 (a tryout) and seventh-round pick Julian Edelman. The QB-turned-WR from Kent slipped a number of times in his breaks working as a slot receiver. He also had trouble catching the ball in both sessions. He is clearly very fast, but doesn’t look great in the open field. (Is there anything but open field in a non-contact rookie mini-camp?) He’s an athlete at this point in his career more than he is a skill player. He had a tough day. Overall the WRs need to have a better day tomorrow coming in and out of their breaks, keeping from slipping and catching the football.

–My boy Sebastian “Sea Bass” Vollmer is wearing some sort of tape/protective thing on his nose. He’s huge. And not fat like many offensive lineman. He’s a very imposing figure. While the linemen work out on the far end of the practice field opposite the media area, he looked to have decent feet. He’s a guy to keep an eye on in camp if he can get acclimated to the system.

–As expected OL Rich Ohrnberger looks like he’s being groomed at both guard and center. He stayed after practice in the afternoon to take some extra snaps.

–The day saw the practice debut of a lot of new coaches as well. Special teams coach Scott O’Brien, quarterbacks coach Bill O’Brien, wide recievers coach Chad O’Shea, tight ends coach Shane Waldron and secondary coach are new to their roles, if not the team, this spring. It’ll be interesting to see how they work in not only with the young players but also the veterans when they get together for mini-camp in early June.

–A tryout punter wearing No. 2 struggled for much of the day. He couldn’t get his kicks to turn over and had a number shank off his foot.

–S Patrick Chung is impressive, even in shorts. He’s quick, intense and looks like he wants to hit someone. He seems to have an air of energy everywhere he goes. He had it yesterday at the photo op and press conference. It was even more evident today on the practice field. Plus I thought he looked good in coverage.

–WR Brandon Tate was at both sessions, watching from the sidelines or edges of the action. He’s recovering from the ACL/MCL injury that cut short his season last October and helped the Patriots land a high-level talent in the third round of the draft. Asked where Tate was at at this point in the process during his mid-day press conference Patriots Head Coach Bill Belichick joked, “I think he’s down at lunch right now.”

–Four of the 17 players actually listed on the mini-camp roster hail from a school that starts with Kent — two from Kentucky and two from Kent State.

–Stephen Neal worked out so well the Patriots signed another wrestler in Kent State’s Jermail Porter. He’s a big dude at 6-5, 310. He’s wearing a white jersey at camp, which signifies offense, but it’s No. 91. Weird mix for a guy, of course the team probably doesn’t really know what he is right now. He spent plenty of extra one-on-one time with Dante Scarnecchia after the second session. Is there anyone you’d rather having working with a big-bodied, athletic project than Scar?

–The veteran TE Brad Listori, a first-year player out of Massachusetts, was the best player on the field in the morning session. He did not dress for the afternoon, watching the workouts while dressed in sweats.

–With just one quarterback at practice, Patriots Director of Player Personnel Nick Caserio did some throwing to the WRs. The former John Carroll QB still has it. It is a strong, accurate arm. If they ever get in a pinch under center I think he should sign himself!

–DL Myron Pryor limped off a break-off tackling drill reaching for his right calf. He was tended to by trainers. It did not look overly serious and may have been a cramp based on the way he looked to be walking it off.

–The offense struggled a bit in the morning, have to re-huddle a number of times before taking a punishment lap. Overall the execution on that side of the ball, as expected when throwing a group of new rookies together, was a bit sloppy. It picked up a bit in the afternoon.

–So one day in, here’s the guys I like: Listorti, Hoyer, Chung Tyrone McKenzie, Vollmer and Porter. The last guy got on the list because he’s huge, fills out the jersey and as a former wrestler could easily kick my butt. Check back tomorrow for more observations from another pair of rookie mini-camp workouts.
 
good stuff, thanks for posting, you're welcome for bumping.
 
I was hoping we had a promising punter in Perez (6th rated)

but I guess not.
 
Great to read that stuff. :)

Vollmer is my surprise player. I don't expect him to displace Kaczur barring injury, but if Kaczur gets dinged, Vollmer might go in and never look back.

Love that Chung looks the part. Even though it's the first day, the guys who look like they get it usually tend to pan out. (Thinking back to Branch anyway ...)

Stinks that Edelman sounds like a huge project, though guess that was expected. Maybe he can catch on as a pure return guy?

Mixed news on Butler could be better, could be worse. :)
 
Has there been any audio/video yet of Chung or any of the other picks in interviews? I remember in previous years they had tele-conferences shortly after being picked, but I can't find anything like that yet.
 
Love that Chung looks the part. Even though it's the first day, the guys who look like they get it usually tend to pan out. (Thinking back to Branch anyway ...)
Agreed - although Chad Jackson wowed them in shorts :(

Stinks that Edelman sounds like a huge project, though guess that was expected. Maybe he can catch on as a pure return guy?
I expect him to be released and hopefully signed to the practice squad where he can try to develop his skills and help practice against the wildcat.
 
Love that Chung looks the part. Even though it's the first day, the guys who look like they get it usually tend to pan out. (Thinking back to Branch anyway ...)

Agreed - although Chad Jackson wowed them in shorts :(
I should add to that, Jackson ended up being a bust because he was a dummy (and maybe the ACL tear slowed him down I don't know about that); from even the most negative reports about Chung, intelligence and desire will not be an issue so flashing solid athleticism is VERY encouraging with him because that's the only real question about him, how athletic he is.
 
I should add to that, Jackson ended up being a bust because he was a dummy (and maybe the ACL tear slowed him down I don't know about that); from even the most negative reports about Chung, intelligence and desire will not be an issue so flashing solid athleticism is VERY encouraging with him because that's the only real question about him, how athletic he is.

Yeah the more I read about Chung, the more I love this kid. Heck, when I was doing pre-draft reading, he was my safety of choice for the simple fact he was starting at Oregon at 16. That is mental.
 
There were no comments on MacKenzie, but he liked what he saw.. would like to know more.
 
There were no comments on MacKenzie, but he liked what he saw.. would like to know more.
There's more on McKenzie here :

Rookies arrive for first practices as pros

"Third-round draft choice Tyrone McKenzie worked up a good sweat during the morning practice. He struggled a bit in pass coverage and a few times appeared to be taking his mistakes pretty hard. At one point, Belichick called McKenzie over to settle him down and, one assumes, offer the necessary guidance to fix whatever he was doing wrong. McKenzie seemed to perform better after the heart-to-heart with the head coach. McKenzie was more consistent in the second session on Friday."

Doesn't say who wrote this, not sure if it's a synopsis by Hart and Perillo or others.
 
There's more on McKenzie here :

Rookies arrive for first practices as pros

"Third-round draft choice Tyrone McKenzie worked up a good sweat during the morning practice. He struggled a bit in pass coverage and a few times appeared to be taking his mistakes pretty hard. At one point, Belichick called McKenzie over to settle him down and, one assumes, offer the necessary guidance to fix whatever he was doing wrong. McKenzie seemed to perform better after the heart-to-heart with the head coach. McKenzie was more consistent in the second session on Friday."

Doesn't say who wrote this, not sure if it's a synopsis by Hart and Perillo or others.

This guy is my second favorite draft pick after Chung. Hopefully he'll make a good 1-2 down combo to Guyton's third down. Of course, ideally he develops into a perfect 3-4 ILB. :)
 
Tryout WR #15 looked crisp in the brief glimpses I saw from the Patriots Now video clip.
 
This guy is my second favorite draft pick after Chung. Hopefully he'll make a good 1-2 down combo to Guyton's third down. Of course, ideally he develops into a perfect 3-4 ILB. :)

Liked this pick from the beginning, will benefit from a consistent program and consistent coaching... he could be a real sleeper.
 
This guy is my second favorite draft pick after Chung. Hopefully he'll make a good 1-2 down combo to Guyton's third down. Of course, ideally he develops into a perfect 3-4 ILB. :)

good stuff, yea, w/ the right coach we may make him something yet

the news on butler is dissapointing, but hopefully it improves
 
the news on butler is dissapointing, but hopefully it improves
It already has :

"None of that was on display in the afternoon. He was in the receiver’s shirt on every play, had a terrific interception near the sideline and appeared to be the best athlete on the field. He didn’t get any chances to redeem himself as a punt returner, but his work at corner was eye-popping. So much so that I cast a skeptical eye toward Andy based on his early scouting report."
 
This I find to be good:
Ingram appeared to have little trouble adjusting to life as a professional. Working with new special teams coach Scott O’Brien, Ingram displayed the technician-like approach that scouting reports raved about during the pre-draft process. All of his snaps during punting drills were right on the money. The same could not be said, however, of the rookie free agent punter who was receiving those snaps.

I have sore spot for the long snapper Ingram(didn't think he should have been drafted) but this is encouraging, I'm hoping he keeps this up and does well in training camp with the competition with Hodel.
 
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Man, it is hard not to be excited, but I keep remembering every draft pick we've fallen in love with because they beat out a UFA in shorts.

It's just ANNOYING that I am getting more and more sure that Chung is Rodney but with super powers (based on his high draft status, the intensity you see in film -- primarily against guys who didn't make it into the NFL -- and writeups like this.)

And it helps that he's stronger than a Rosie O'Donnell queef.

In fact I'm completely convinced right now that we'll all be saying "oh yeah Mayo had an okay rookie season but nothing like Chung."

Of course, it's ridiculously unwarranted and will slowly go away as he lines up against actual NFL talent.

Unless it doesn't :) that would be so cool.

ARRRGHHHHH it needs to be September NOW!

PFnV
 
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