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No clue if this is even an "almost" legit site, but the language the guy uses doesn't ring of spec, even though I suppose it must be:

Peppers wants to play in the 3-4 scheme next year where his talents would be better utilized. Of the teams using the 3-4, Peppers has narrowed his choice down to four teams, including the Patriots and Cowboys.

The Pats are taking the biggest steps towards acquiring Peppers, and they have plenty of trade ammo, including the 23rd, 34th, 47th, and 58th picks in the draft.

If the Patriots are going to trade for Peppers, they would rather not be required to sign a first round pick. The Panthers will have the final say on the matter, and if they would rather have a couple of second rounders, New England may have to trade out of pick No. 23 with another team.
 
Seeing as I recognize some of the contributors' names from Bleacher Report, I would bet on "they're pulling stuff out of their *****."
 
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Seeing as I recognize some of the contributors' names from Bleacher Report, I would bet on "they're pulling stuff out of their *****."

Ah. That makes more sense.

Ah well, whatever helps pass the time...
 
Seeing as I recognize some of the contributors' names from Bleacher Report, I would bet on "they're pulling stuff out of their *****."

Obviously, Bleacher Report is not a credible source. That being said it is still an awesome site for aspiring writers, and/or editors. :singing:

I write articles on there. I don't claim to be an expert, but I do enjoy it!
 
In fact, a reporter from the Toronto Star called me about one of my articles, "Confessions of a Boston Sports Fan."

He is writing a piece on the difference between Boston and Toronto fans. He said it is going to run tomorrow.
 
In fact, a reporter from the Toronto Star called me about one of my articles, "Confessions of a Boston Sports Fan."

He is writing a piece on the difference between Boston and Toronto fans. He said it is going to run tomorrow.

It would be amusing if the Toronto perspective came from JSn. . . . :)
 
It would be amusing if the Toronto perspective came from JSn. . . . :)

I was just thinking about that. I should have told the guy about him. His name is Kevin McGran, if you're wondering.
 
One more thing about B/R.

Anyone can get on there, and write an article. They can speculate all they want, even if they are completely wrong.

The one thing they can't do, is say "Peppers traded to Patriots!"

If they do, it has to be tagged humor, and better have satire in it.

If it doesn't, the moderators delete it.
 
HAHA - Toronto sports fans are lunatics. Leafs tickets are worth a mint and they can't win $h!t.

I doubt they'd print that.
 
HAHA - Toronto sports fans are lunatics. Leafs tickets are worth a mint and they can't win $h!t.

I doubt they'd print that.

That's hilarious. :cool:
 
Citing a source like that is akin to citing a comment in a thread here as a topic.

NEM used to write for the Bleacher Report fanboy media.
 
Citing a source like that is akin to citing a comment in a thread here as a topic.

NEM used to write for the Bleacher Report fanboy media.

HAHA. That is basically true! Who is NEM, though?
 
Citing a source like that is akin to citing a comment in a thread here as a topic.

NEM used to write for the Bleacher Report fanboy media.

Well, now I know. Guess we'll try and stick with "official" media, as boring as that gets...
 
I think we may have to start a separate thread in discussion of NEM, an infamous former forum member.


Back to original post for a moment first though; this line from the article has me scratching my head:

If the Patriots are going to trade for Peppers, they would rather not be required to sign a first round pick. The Panthers will have the final say on the matter, and if they would rather have a couple of second rounders, New England may have to trade out of pick No. 23 with another team.

The Patriots would rather not be 'required' to sign a first round pick? Sorry, but that's flat out not true. Sounds like the writer has taken the fact that the Pats will often trade down and twisted it in to 'the Pats don't like to draft in the first round.'

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

The Pats like to trade down only when they see an opportunity to get the player they want later, because they have figured out that he will still be available later. Doing so allows them to sign the same player, costs them less money, and gets them an additional draft pick later as well. If the reverse is true - that it appears the player they are targeting is not going to last - then they are willing to trade up if it makes sense that he would be a good value at that point.

In general (though not always) the Pats do prefer to stay out of the top ten (not the entire first round) because there is too high of a risk (bust, injury, etc. creating salary cap issue) versus the reward of the possibilty of the player being very productive. It is a sound business philosophy, but it does not apply to their way of thinking for the entire first round.

Lastly, if the Patriots were indeed averse to drafting in the first round due to the size of that player's contract, then why would they be willing to trade for Peppers? Or is he saying the Pats would rather trade a first for Peppers, but not their second? And that if the Pats traded two second rounders, they would then also be wanting to get rid of their first round pick?

Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm just not following the logic of this writer.
 
I think we may have to start a separate thread in discussion of NEM, an infamous former forum member.


Back to original post for a moment first though; this line from the article has me scratching my head:



The Patriots would rather not be 'required' to sign a first round pick? Sorry, but that's flat out not true. Sounds like the writer has taken the fact that the Pats will often trade down and twisted it in to 'the Pats don't like to draft in the first round.'

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

The Pats like to trade down only when they see an opportunity to get the player they want later, because they have figured out that he will still be available later. Doing so allows them to sign the same player, costs them less money, and gets them an additional draft pick later as well. If the reverse is true - that it appears the player they are targeting is not going to last - then they are willing to trade up if it makes sense that he would be a good value at that point.

In general (though not always) the Pats do prefer to stay out of the top ten (not the entire first round) because there is too high of a risk (bust, injury, etc. creating salary cap issue) versus the reward of the possibilty of the player being very productive. It is a sound business philosophy, but it does not apply to their way of thinking for the entire first round.

Lastly, if the Patriots were indeed averse to drafting in the first round due to the size of that player's contract, then why would they be willing to trade for Peppers? Or is he saying the Pats would rather trade a first for Peppers, but not their second? And that if the Pats traded two second rounders, they would then also be wanting to get rid of their first round pick?

Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm just not following the logic of this writer.

I was thinking the exact same thing. That is some quality deductive reasoning right there.:cool:
 
I just read his article... wtf :disagreement:
 
What I want to know is what does NEInsider think?
 
I'd be surprised if we got Peppers. It seems unnecessary. We've got Woods, Banta-Cain, Crable, and a rookie to compete for one spot. That should produce a good player.

IMO, the Panthers don't want a trade--the most important phase of free agency is over--and the Pats don't want to spend the money.
 
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