Carucci: Pats remain interested in Peppers

[patsox23]

6 years at 51 mill - if I'm the Pats and that's the new standard, I do it in a heartbeat.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

6 years at 51 mill - if I'm the Pats and that's the new standard, I do it in a heartbeat.

Who would you cut right now to make room for Peppers, since the Pats would need $17M in cap space to sign him?

 

[Deus Irae]

Who would you cut right now to make room for Peppers, since the Pats would need $17M in cap space to sign him?

Well, just to point out something here..... what money is available would depend on what was involved in the trade.

 

[slash83]

Who would you cut right now to make room for Peppers, since the Pats would need $17M in cap space to sign him?

Vics smart enough to know the situation with the cap, if he didnt think it could happen he wouldnt keep pressing the issue.

 

[Kontradiction]

Carucci's sources must be PatsFans.com.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Either Carucci knows something that nobody else knows or he just can't accept that he got bad info. IMO seems like he's just digging his heels in, sorta like Curran did with the Brady story. When it turns out that he's wrong, he'll just move right along and hope everyone forgets how badly he blew this one.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Vics smart enough to know the situation with the cap, if he didnt think it could happen he wouldnt keep pressing the issue.

You didn't answer the question. Don't assume that journalists are figures of authority who have it all figured out; they're oftentimes not and they usually don't.

IMO, the only way Peppers comes on board is if he agrees to a major, major paycut. I don't care what James Harrison is making, he's the reigning DPOY. Peppers is switching positions. If he wants to be paid like Harrison, then he won't be a Patriot, and I'm fine with that. I'm not totally sold on him anyways. There's no precedent for guys that size playing OLB and doing what he'd have to do, and he's entering the second half of his career. I'd rather the Pats try to get some young, cost-controlled guys in there, and use whatever money they save to try to lock up Wilfork and, if possible, Seymour.

 

[JoeShmoe]

I just dont see how we can get the 17m without some major restsructuring and people like Green, Faulk etc being cut

Unless there is another way out of this where Carolina cuts peppers prior to the draft and he is an FA?

 

[ausbacker]

I almost posted the same thing- I'm already sick of Peppers and he's still miles away lol. Drama drama,but a lot of that could be his agent,who knows. opcorn:

Would you be sick of him ripping Peyton's oversized head off in Indy then doing a war dance around his carcass?

 

[NE39]

Who would you cut right now to make room for Peppers, since the Pats would need $17M in cap space to sign him?

I don't think they would need that much space. Obviously, his agreeing to a new contract would have to be part of any trade.

See this LINK, where Florio outlines how it works.

I still think it is cost-prohibitive, given the other players the Pats have coming up for new deals in coming years. However, they don't need the cap space to take on the full $17M tender, but they do need enough to take on a large contract. Probably in the order of $6M-$7M this season.

 

[Jackson 2]

Either Carucci knows something that nobody else knows or he just can't accept that he got bad info. IMO seems like he's just digging his heels in, sorta like Curran did with the Brady story. When it turns out that he's wrong, he'll just move right along and hope everyone forgets how badly he blew this one.

You're on the money. Curran, whom I like by the way, has been effectively spinning revisionist history since it became evident that he was wrong about Brady and his knee. Vic, whom I also like, has been doing the same. I'm not sure of all of the ins and outs of their business, but it seems to me that in light of the plethora of "sure thing" stories which eventually are proven incorrect, it would behoove these reporters to inject a little caution into their pieces. Just my opinion.

 

[mayoclinic]

Here's USAtoday's "players who could be traded before the draft" list, which is a bit more extended than Carucci's:

Who's most likely to be traded before the NFL draft? - The Huddle - USATODAY.com

 

[Leave No Doubt]

Would you be sick of him ripping Peyton's oversized head off in Indy then doing a war dance around his carcass?

Ok,I'm in

 

[Leave No Doubt]

Here's USAtoday's "players who could be traded before the draft" list, which is a bit more extended than Carucci's:

Who's most likely to be traded before the NFL draft? - The Huddle - USATODAY.com

-- Tony Gonzalez, Chiefs TE: The former Kansas City regime held off trading Gonzalez at last year's deadline. Gonzalez, 33, has said he's happy in Kansas City, but would like a chance to win a Super Bowl. NFL Network analyst Mike Lombardi reported on Monday he's "80-85% certain" the Chiefs would trade Gonzalez before the draft and mentioned Atlanta as a potential landing spot. New Chiefs GM Scott Pioli might be looking to extract a second-round pick for the 10-time Pro Bowler.

Chance at a SB has not much to do with Atlanta:nosmile: Apparently Pioli's thinking of a 2nd round pick for him.

 

[Rob0729]

Chance at a SB has not much to do with Atlanta:nosmile: Apparently Pioli's thinking of a 2nd round pick for him.

Why wouldn't the Falcons have a shot at a Super Bowl. They are not a top contender, but they were a playoff team last year with a lot of young players especially Matt Ryan who could progress a lot his second season especially throwing to Gonzo.

In the NFC, the field is wide open on who could go to the Super Bowl. Look at the last two NFC participants. You had a 9 win team from a very week division and a 10 win Wild Card team that everyone in the world thought were going to be one and done in the playoffs and ended up shocking the world by beating the Pats in the Super Bowl.

 

[Rob0729]

You're on the money. Curran, whom I like by the way, has been effectively spinning revisionist history since it became evident that he was wrong about Brady and his knee. Vic, whom I also like, has been doing the same. I'm not sure of all of the ins and outs of their business, but it seems to me that in light of the plethora of "sure thing" stories which eventually are proven incorrect, it would behoove these reporters to inject a little caution into their pieces. Just my opinion.

Well at least Carrucci hasn't shown righteous indignation like Curran did when people started to question his story. Curran had far more egg on his face because he went on WEEI and attacked Adam Schefter, Peter King, Shara Springer, and Charlie Casserly for not having as good or detailed information as him and that he was right and they were wrong. Carrucci at least had more dignity with this story.

I like Curran too, but he did act childish while defending his story. Carrucci from what I have seen hasn't.

 

[DW Toys]

Well, just to point out something here..... what money is available would depend on what was involved in the trade.

Interesting. Explain that to me DI? What do you have in mind? What works here?
DW Toys

 

[PatsDparty]

I believe that the Pats are interested in Peppers, and am hopeful that a deal gets done. Where there's smoke, there's fire. Athletes like Peppers are rare, and BB has stated before that he thinks very highly of him, and his ability to play OLB.

In terms of coming up with the cap space, I'm not an expert on the current cap situation, but I'm sure there are several contracts that can be renegotiated and extended to create room, as well as some cuts.

Also, couldn't Carolina just drop the tag and make him a FA, on condition that the Pats send whatever picks they deem appropriate compensation. Kraft and the Panthers owner are very good friends, and I think there's enough good faith between the two organizations that the Panthers wouldn't have to worry about the Pats holding up their end of the deal upon the tag being rescinded (not sure if this is allowed though, but just a thought)

 

[DW Toys]

Here's USAtoday's "players who could be traded before the draft" list, which is a bit more extended than Carucci's:

Who's most likely to be traded before the NFL draft? - The Huddle - USATODAY.com

Mayo, You know after looking at that information, the best swap for Peppers if he is insistent on being an OLB might be Green Bay. They have Kampman that they are considering moving outside but that is a big reach. Kampman is also a Pro Bowl DE in a Carolina preferred 4-3. Green Bay also has more CAP room. His pass rushing qualities are well known and both players are 29. This makes sense.

Although I had thought Peppers would be a great acquisition for the Pats, this trade might be a better fit.

The only way I see a swap for Peppers work is if Jarvis Green is a moving part. Would the CAP costs for each help the Pats that much is a question. Would you do #34 and Green for Peppers with a new contract?

Could you swap two players and reduce the CAP difference? I have not seen an example of that before.

DW Toys

 

[pats_premi]

I am not big Peppers fan, so just asking :

Would the Patriots trade Seymour for Peppers ?

I am thinking that
- Seymour is on the last of year of his current contract and who likely want Albert Haynesworth type contract next year. So if Patriots could get Peppers for the similar money that they are currently paying Seymour then I think it would be win-win situation.
- BB didn't want to use Seymour on third downs last season and probably feels that Seymour is regressing. They may be able to draft DL to fill in for Seymour on two downs.