BJGE does NOT have practice squad eligibility

[supafly]

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I was thinking the same thing. Imagine having injury problems, still averaging 4.3-4.5 a carry and being a disappointment. Wow.

I'll grant his style and the Pats blocking scheme haven't meshed, but I see Taylor and Maroney splitting carries with Morris as utility and FB. I really think they hope Taylor will give him some schooling. He just has way too much upside for the Pats to dump him unless his attitude sucks, and it doesn't.

Sorry, the Pats don't just throw players away.

I certainly wasn't suggesting throwing him away Ray, I was saying that if we were really looking hard at a higher rd RB like some suggested that maybe we 'make a move.' That was my quote, I meant the possibility of a trade, and not this yr. I agreed that he should be deserving of keeping his starting job--if you could call it that. I responded because I assume you were referring to my comments. I didn't see any others in the thread that you may have been looking at. Chad Jackson is the only player we throw away, and he warranted it. Bottom line, I think I was mis-understood. We all have our different opinions, I am not saying to throw anyone out, I said this would be his last prove himself yr--and it very well might be.

 

[VJCPatriot]

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I agree JSN, it will be interesting. I've read at PatriotsInsiders that the Patriots are SERIOUSLY checking out the running backs in this year's draft. They report that they have spent a lot of time scouting Rashad Jennings. FWIW, they report that even though they signed Fred Taylor, they are still looking for another young running back of the future.

Jennings would be a nice pick. Would anyone be all that shocked if BJGE beat out Maroney for a roster spot?

 

[JSn]

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Jennings would be a nice pick. Would anyone be all that shocked if BJGE beat out Maroney for a roster spot?

I wouldn't be shocked - it depends which one is doing a better job of what Bill wants in camp. They need RB depth on the P-Squad regardless. I'm not sure a pick (lower round, UDFA) means much more than some great camp competition and a solid contingency plan.

A healthy Maroney MIGHT net something in trade, or at least offer a decent deal sweetener. A healthy Maroney might also tear up the field for the Pats this season too. It's a tough one to guess at, actually.

 

[supafly]

Apparently, some here would be very shocked, like it's never crossed their minds before (?)

Not quite sure what the heavy-Maroney supporters thought when we paid good money to bring in Fred Taylor. Or when we came in (what,3rd overall?) as a franchise in rushing this yr..without Maroney. Not sure what they think when there are rumors of looking at the nation's leading rusher this yr in D.Brown?

Since he has accumulated a whopping 15-1600 yrs now in 3 seasons and everything. (ok,2--I'll give him the benefit of the doubt) That still is about 800 yards a season, which would be an average of 50 yards a game from our top, starting, first round pick. I guess when we drafted him, they saw visions of 50 yard games in their heads.

I mean, he is a 1st rd pick and all, so I guess he's untouchable forever. But to question whether BJGE is even any good or not, or to question whether he's earned a longer,better look is somewhat biased thinking. I'm not gonna say stupid, because we all defend our certain players, and I wouldn't want someone telling me that I was silly, or stupid, for sticking up for any player on our team. But no, I don't anyone should be 'shocked' about rumors or suggestions about getting rid of someone who's been unproductive.

Even if he does have 'potential.'

 

[Patjew]

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Jennings would be a nice pick. Would anyone be all that shocked if BJGE beat out Maroney for a roster spot?

I would be shocked.

 

[Ungeheuer]

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I would be shocked.

Yeah, I would be shocked, too.

I really like BJGE, but look at the Pats' backs and wideouts. Maroney is the only guy (maybe Greg Lewis is the exception) who is still young and has above-average speed for his position. It's possible Ben Watson is the fastest player the Pats have on offense. You cut Maroney and the Pats suddenly have a pretty glaring team speed problem on offense.

I just don't see a guy with Maroney's talent getting cut, unless he's a real clubhouse cancer in some way we don't know about. You can always do something with a guy with those skills -- even if he's just returning kicks and backing up Fred Taylor, he's probably more valuable than BJGE.

 

[JoeShmoe]

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I was thinking the same thing. Imagine having injury problems, still averaging 4.3-4.5 a carry and being a disappointment. Wow.

That's where I am too. If he was playing injured last year and wasnt hitting the holes like he should have done then this year is a clean slate for him if he's fit

Big year for him but he and Taylor should be a good mix

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Not sure what they think when there are rumors of looking at the nation's leading rusher this yr in D.Brown?

If the Patriots had no interest whatsoever in taking a RB, this would actually make perfect sense: the more interest other teams think the Pats have in RBs, the more likely they are to go early, which pushes down players the Pats do want.

Since he has accumulated a whopping 15-1600 yrs now in 3 seasons and everything. (ok,2--I'll give him the benefit of the doubt) That still is about 800 yards a season, which would be an average of 50 yards a game from our top, starting, first round pick. I guess when we drafted him, they saw visions of 50 yard games in their heads.

Stats don't matter quite as much to the Patriots as they do to fantasy football players. The thing is, we just don't know what, exactly, the Patriots are expecting.

 

[RayClay]

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I certainly wasn't suggesting throwing him away Ray, I was saying that if we were really looking hard at a higher rd RB like some suggested that maybe we 'make a move.' That was my quote, I meant the possibility of a trade, and not this yr. I agreed that he should be deserving of keeping his starting job--if you could call it that. I responded because I assume you were referring to my comments. I didn't see any others in the thread that you may have been looking at. Chad Jackson is the only player we throw away, and he warranted it. Bottom line, I think I was mis-understood. We all have our different opinions, I am not saying to throw anyone out, I said this would be his last prove himself yr--and it very well might be.

That's a sensible approach, unlike many others here. One thing, he's coming off an injury and has little trade value. We have too many picks already, what do we gain? I'm not saying he deserves anything. Jackson got his shot and there was a problem with his dedication or intelligence, or something. Maroney has been spectacular at times. He seems to have trouble at the line sometimes, but they've been trying a different blocking scheme and he's been injured off and on. i'm not a stats guy, but hovering around 4 1/2 yds a carry simply isn't bust territory.

We do have a ton of picks and might go after an RB. If we do and look for takers for Maroney, at lest we should get more for him because it will look like a strength move, rather than dumping someone valuable which would lead to suspicion. If we found a RB who's style better fits us I wouldn't look back, but i fear maroney would end up one of those deals where we have to regret it every Sunday.

I responded because I assume you were referring to my comments.

Not hardly. There are probably 50 members of the "made o' glass club" here and i confess i don't read every invective before responding.

 

[Rob0729]

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Jennings would be a nice pick. Would anyone be all that shocked if BJGE beat out Maroney for a roster spot?

Extremely shocked. When Lamont Jordan got healthy last year, BJGE couldn't even get on the active roster. BJGE could be Mike Cloud part 2 at this point in my mind. I don't have him as guaranteed a roster spot at this point. I feel it is doubtful that he would beat out Maroney. Because of Maroney's abilities and cap situation, he would have to have a horrible preseason to get cut.

 

[RayClay]

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Jennings would be a nice pick. Would anyone be all that shocked if BJGE beat out Maroney for a roster spot?

If Maroney's healthy? Yes I would.

 

[KY Pats Fan]

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I think BJGE will be on the roster this year. This is a make or break season for Maroney. I also think that this will probably be the last year for Faulk, as I believe he will retire. though given BB's propensity to put players on IR (see Troy Brown), if there is solid competition, Faulk may wind up on IR. That would give a line up of Maroney, Taylor, Morris, BJGE, and a 5th RB/FB.

 

[tanked_as_usual]

BJGE is very replaceable........his chances of being on the roster would be greatly aided if he learns to catch some passes and pick up a blitz

 

[Rob0729]

BJGE is very replaceable........his chances of being on the roster would be greatly aided if he learns to catch some passes and pick up a blitz

I think he needs to find a way to contribute on special teams more. He was a reserve on the special teams one game in December and then inactive the next three games. If BJGE wants to make this team, he will need to be a contributor there so he can be activated. The rest of the stuff is moot in my mind if he can't get to the active roster.

 

[tanked_as_usual]

I think he needs to find a way to contribute on special teams more. He was a reserve on the special teams one game in December and then inactive the next three games. If BJGE wants to make this team, he will need to be a contributor there so he can be activated. The rest of the stuff is moot in my mind if he can't get to the active roster.

something.....anything......but his time with the offense will be predicated on maroney being hurt.........and taylor being hurt.......and morris being hurt.........it is possible, but the reality is that the pats will bring in either a day 2 pick or an undrafted free agent with the idea of upgrading the spot with someone who can play special teams (maybe a return man type like devin moore who can also back up faulk) or a guy who can be a pass catching FB

 

[Rob0729]

something.....anything......but his time with the offense will be predicated on maroney being hurt.........and taylor being hurt.......and morris being hurt.........it is possible, but the reality is that the pats will bring in either a day 2 pick or an undrafted free agent with the idea of upgrading the spot with someone who can play special teams (maybe a return man type like devin moore who can also back up faulk) or a guy who can be a pass catching FB

I do think they will carry an extra RB like last season, but I think it may end up being in your line of thinking of bringing in a rookie who can play special teams. Even if the guy is not activated week after week, at least he can do more than be a reserve at special teams when he is.

 

[Synovia]

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Would anyone be all that shocked if BJGE beat out Maroney for a roster spot?

Yes.


BJGE is roster/TC fodder, nothing more. Hes not good. Maroney is a potentially elite back with injury issues.


I'd be more suprised with BJGE knocking Maroney off than Greg Lewis knocking Randy Moss off. Seriously, BJGE isn't worth anything. He's Kyle Eckle II

 

[bucky]

That still is about 800 yards a season, which would be an average of 50 yards a game from our top, starting, first round pick. I guess when we drafted him, they saw visions of 50 yard games in their heads.

I mean, he is a 1st rd pick and all, so I guess he's untouchable forever.

That's exactly it. He's being punished for being a 1st round pick. I agree that he hasn't lived up to the expectations of being the next great back in the NFL. But to say that he's 4th string and battling BJGE for a roster spot? Come on!

You can compare him to a guy like Stephen Neal. Neal has played in only 32 games over the last 3 seasons. Maroney has played in 30. When Neal gets injured, nobody says he's battling Billy Connely for a roster spot. The guy is a starter. Although he is the weakest pass blocker of the 5 starters and probably the 4th best OL overall on this team.

It's the same with Maroney. He's the best RB on this team even if he's not the next LT. Fred Taylor is an upgrade over Jordan, but he's not a starting caliber RB any more. And Morris never was and never will be. So right now Maroney is the starter.

 

[BradyManny]

BJGE might just be the most overrated player on the board and Maroney the most underrated. Don't get me wrong, I like BJGE, but he's been way overhyped. Meanwhile, granted the injuries are frustrating, but in 07, Maroney was one of the top 5 most efficient and productive backs according to Football Outsiders. Maybe if Maroney had two middle names, he'd be more popular.

 

[Patjew]

BJGE might just be the most overrated player on the board and Maroney the most underrated. Don't get me wrong, I like BJGE, but he's been way overhyped. Meanwhile, granted the injuries are frustrating, but in 07, Maroney was one of the top 5 most efficient and productive backs according to Football Outsiders. Maybe if Maroney had two middle names, he'd be more popular.

Very well put!