The New NFP 3 Round Mock

[dryheat44]

100% agreement here......... Course, it all depends what position BB selects at #23 too..... OL? He's looking for production from the start of the season I think. OLB or ILB? A contributor as the season goes along methinks.. I can't see the #23 pick as anything other than these 3 positions.... That said BB will take a TE!

I think he'll strongly consider Tyson Jackson if he's there.

 

[tombonneau]

Three starters?! This year?! uhhhhhh no, that's not gonna happen, not on this years team. But apparently hope does spring eternal......Don't ever change, JSn!

I don't know that it's unrealistic. Certainly there could be rookie starters at ILB and even OLB. There's a chance a rookie could unseat James Sanders at safety.

And depending on the health of Galloway, I think a rookie could eventually start at WR in Gaffney's old spot, whether or not you want to define that role as "starter" of course is debatable.

 

[BPF]

I'd probably go with:

23 - Barwin, OLB. Nice to see another "professional" mock considering him worthy of a 1st round pick.
34 - Laurinaitis or English to cover ILB. Though in reality I'd go with Delmas here.
47 - Delmas, S. I'd be thrilled if this actually happened.
58 - Jamon Meredith, OT.
89 - Casey, TE.
97 - TJ Lang, OG.

Bunting is great at scouting/evaluating players but he doesn't have a good idea about value. For ex, in his previous mock to this one he had Tyson Jackson going 44 to Miami The National Football Post | NFP Monday Mock Draft

44. Miami Dolphins: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU

A five-technique end who should fit in nicely in the Dolphins’ 3-4 defense.

now he has him going 16 to San Diego

16. San Diego Chargers: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU

With the loss of DE Igor Olshansky to free agency (and the Cowboys), the Chargers could be in the market for some additional defensive linemen. Jackson is an ideal fit in the Chargers’ 3-4 defense and gives San Diego some depth at defensive end.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

What I'd like out of this draft are three or four players who are solid contributors this year, and starting next year.

Those solid contributors are probably going to be ST players and those that can fill in for an injured starter.

Whomever we draft at OLB and/or ILB is positioned nicely for a redshirt/grayshirt year this year and start next year.

A stud CB could end up claiming the nichel or dime back role.

 

[Revman]

Good version-realistic. I still see Pat's adding Jason Taylor soon. Trading #34 for future pick or picks.

 

[Feep50]

Any way we slice and dice it this team is pretty dern solid 1 thru 45! A draft pick pushing a starter to the bench would be an accomplishment. I'm standing pat with my safety, OLB and ILB positions for most likely places for rookie playing time.... Again, the caveat, barring injury.

 

[Feep50]

I think he'll strongly consider Tyson Jackson if he's there.

If he's there at #23 I agree with you dryheat44, he's been moving up the mock boards last few weeks.....I wouldn't mind this pick.... BB loves his DL!
So long LeKevin Smith is they select Jackson....Sorry Keegs! Wherever you are...

 

[Ungeheuer]

I just don't see Barwin going in the first round. What team is going to risk hanging its whole draft on a guy who only played one year at his position? That's the kind of thing Bobby Grier used to do (remember Tebucky Jones?).

To me Barwin exactly the kind of guy who would go in the second or third round -- first-round potential but with a red flag or two. You take the surer thing in round one, and then you take the riskier pick in the later rounds.

Think about it another way: you know for sure Barwin isn't going to go higher than, say, 17 or 18. He's not going to go higher than guys like Michael Oher or Percy Harvin or Aaron Maybin or Everette Brown. Not many teams are going to pass on the best running back in the draft (Moreno or Wells) or the best tight end (Pettigrew) to pick the sixth or seventh-rated pass rusher.

So that leaves picks 17-33 to worry about. Of all those teams, who would pick Barwin? I can't see him going to the Jets, not with their problems on offense and after they paid all that money to Pace and Scott. He's not big enough to be a 4-3 end for Chicago, Tampa, Philly, Minnesota, Atlanta, Indy, New York, Tennessee and Arizona. That really leaves the 3-4 teams at the bottom of the first round: Detroit, New England, Miami, Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Detroit needs so many players, they can't afford to miss in the first round -- no way they pick a guy like Barwin, at least not at 20. OLB is pretty far down the list of Miami's needs; same with Pittsburgh. Baltimore is a possibility, but they have a lot of other needs. Detroit at 33 is the only place where yo ucould realistically imagine him going.

It's just hard to imagine Miami passing up O-line help or an inside linebacker, Philly passing on a back or a tight end or a wideout, Pittsburgh passing on tackles and guards, to pick a risk like Barwin.

New England is the only team with a big enough hole at OLB to pick Barwin -- and they have another pick at the top of round 2 to grab him there if they want. They can grab someone who falls in the draft at 23 -- who knows, maybe Maualuga falls -- then wait for Barwin at 34. The setup is perfect for the Pats. But to take him at 23 seems nuts, because he's almost guaranteed to be there at 34.

 

[dryheat44]

Any way we slice and dice it this team is pretty dern solid 1 thru 45! A draft pick pushing a starter to the bench would be an accomplishment. I'm standing pat with my safety, OLB and ILB positions for most likely places for rookie playing time.... Again, the caveat, barring injury.

Which ILB in the draft is going to start ahead of Bruschi and Mayo? I certainly don't see one.

 

[Feep50]

Which ILB in the draft is going to start ahead of Bruschi and Mayo? I certainly don't see one.

Rookie playing time, not starting.... I've been arguing against any rookies starting this entire thread!

 

[dryheat44]

Rookie playing time, not starting.... I've been arguing against any rookies starting this entire thread!

Aah right you are. I guess the question was meant for Tombonneau

 

[Feep50]

Aah right you are. I guess the question was meant for Tombonneau

All is forgiven in war and football talk!

 

[AzPatsFan]

Pretty sweet, actually. I'd rather take Pat White than a James Casey, but whatev.

The National Football Post | NFP Three Round Mock Draft

23: Barwin
34: Laurinaitis
47: Wood (C)
58: Chung
89: Casey (TE)
97: Harris (CB)

I like the first four. OLb /ILB are needs. Woods adds to the OL.

Casey is a good player but I don't draft players to cut them. There is no room.

Harris is too slow and would get cut. Nope.

 

[TealSox]

New England is the only team with a big enough hole at OLB to pick Barwin -- and they have another pick at the top of round 2 to grab him there if they want. They can grab someone who falls in the draft at 23 -- who knows, maybe Maualuga falls -- then wait for Barwin at 34. The setup is perfect for the Pats. But to take him at 23 seems nuts, because he's almost guaranteed to be there at 34.

Just think...

The Dolphins could do the Pats a slight favor by re-signing Jason Taylor, skipping Barwin in the first round and letting him slid to the second round. I like it because I don't like the idea of investing a first round pick on a "pet project".

If you read the comments after the Mock, one Pat fan rips the mock for being horrible. Didn't realize Lauranitis is so bad, but I was getting that idea based on mocks.

 

[mayoclinic]

Just think...

The Dolphins could do the Pats a slight favor by re-signing Jason Taylor, skipping Barwin in the first round and letting him slid to the second round. I like it because I don't like the idea of investing a first round pick on a "pet project".

If you read the comments after the Mock, one Pat fan rips the mock for being horrible. Didn't realize Lauranitis is so bad, but I was getting that idea based on mocks.

I don't think Laurinaitis is "so bad" at all - just not right for the Pats. I think he's a nice player with limited athleticism and upside, but I think he's be a very good MLB in the right system. He's a 4-3 MLB, not a 3-4 ILB. He might conceivably make it as a 3-4 WILB, but we already have Mayo who has much better athleticism and upside than Laurinaitis as a WILB, and has a year of experience. Moving Mayo to SILB to play Laurinaitis at WILB wouldn't make optimal use of either player's abilities IMHO.

 

[DocE]

Pretty sweet, actually. I'd rather take Pat White than a James Casey, but whatev.

The National Football Post | NFP Three Round Mock Draft

23: Barwin- nervous about taking him round 1, but would be ok with it
34: Laurinaitis- prefer Harvin, Butler, or Larry English
47: Wood (C)- like the player, but can't pass up Delmas or Moore
58: Chung- Jamon Meredith
89: Casey (TE)- fine with this pick
97: Harris (CB)

- ok with the player, but round 3 seems early due to speed issues