Competition Committee - Ryan Clark rule

[Synovia]

I believe the horse collar rule is b.s. and touching the QB and hand slapping on O-Lineman is baloney.s

The horse collar rule was instituted because Roy Williams was hurting a receiver like every game. Torn hamstrings, etc. The body is just not supposed to be loaded like that.


THe problem is it is called poorly. Grabbing a man's collar and falling on his legs while he is running full speed forward most certainly is dangerous.

 

[ForThoseAboutToRock]

I'm in favor of rules that could save careers and improve the quality of life for players after their careers are over. These guys almost all are still young men when they hang up their helmets for the last time - but some of them have taken a ton of punishment and experience some major drawbacks later in life because of that.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I'm in favor of rules that could save careers and improve the quality of life for players after their careers are over. These guys almost all are still young men when they hang up their helmets for the last time - but some of them have taken a ton of punishment and experience some major drawbacks later in life because of that.

+1

Well said. Those are people out there, most with families. Having guys gratuitously injured so that a highlights reel can show big hits puts a lower quality product on the field.

 

[Mike the Brit]

Yes. + 2. It's about courage and athleticism.

 

[mmasterkillah]

Enough with the rules.

As much as I love Wes, I can deal with that hit just so we don't have more ******* ref-based stuff.

 

[brdmaverick]

Correct me if I am misremembering (ala Roger Clemens) but I could have swore that a flag was tossed for Clark's hit against Wes Welker. I'm pretty sure that was a third down play, but the personal foul penalty gave the Pats a first down (only to lose the ball one or two plays later on a sack/fumble)

 

[brdmaverick]

call me cruel, but I don't think those should be penalties. As someone mentioned earlier, anytime you add more judgement calls to the ref's disposal, it's a bad thing (ESPECIALLY 15 yard, automatic first down penalties)

 

[spacecrime]

Correct me if I am misremembering (ala Roger Clemens) but I could have swore that a flag was tossed for Clark's hit against Wes Welker. I'm pretty sure that was a third down play, but the personal foul penalty gave the Pats a first down (only to lose the ball one or two plays later on a sack/fumble)

I didn't think there was a flag, but my memory isn't perfect, either. I know do that there was no fine.

 

[Patjew]

I didn't think there was a flag, but my memory isn't perfect, either. I know do that there was no fine.

The play resulted in a 15 yd unnecessary roughness penalty.

 

[Mike the Brit]

call me cruel, but I don't think those should be penalties. As someone mentioned earlier, anytime you add more judgement calls to the ref's disposal, it's a bad thing (ESPECIALLY 15 yard, automatic first down penalties)

Whether one likes it or not, there are judgement calls when players make contact. The question is: where should the line that the referees have to judge around be drawn? The Clark hit on McGahee was clearly helmet-to-helmet and that is both extremely dangerous (impact on the head, leverage on the neck) and reasonably easy to tell.

 

[DaBruinz]

Whether one likes it or not, there are judgement calls when players make contact. The question is: where should the line that the referees have to judge around be drawn? The Clark hit on McGahee was clearly helmet-to-helmet and that is both extremely dangerous (impact on the head, leverage on the neck) and reasonably easy to tell.

The problem is that, right now, if the player has the ball, opposing players are allowed to tackle him with a helmet to helmet hit.

I am against helmet to helmet hits. However, incidental contact shouldn't be a penalty. I kind of liken it to helmets and faceshields in hockey. Ever since the league made it mandatory to wear a helmet (which is a good thing) and allowed faceshields, the number of stick penalties (high sticking, spearing, hooking) has increase exponentially. People do it because they aren't worried about hurting an opponent who has a face shield. And since they know that the refs are human, they know that they'll be able to get away with 1 in 5 penalties committed.

I think that in football, its similar. Because players are wearing more in the way of padding and they are being told that the helmets are safer, they are taking more liberties with shots to the head. That is the issue I have with Clark. He's a head hunter, ala Jack Lambert. I watched more than a few games that involved pittsburgh this year and Clark goes for the opposing players head on almost every play. Its classless and he'll get him..

Also, lets not forget that Ryan Clark is the classless POS who claimed in 2007 that the Steelers would man-handle the Pats, only to be embarrassed. He made the same claim in 2008 because he knew the Pats didn't have Brady.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Also, lets not forget that Ryan Clark is the classless POS who claimed in 2007 that the Steelers would man-handle the Pats, only to be embarrassed. He made the same claim in 2008 because he knew the Pats didn't have Brady.

I believe that was Anthony Smith who has since signed with Chicago.

 

[Scouse Patriot]

Hitting somebody when they're not looking is not something a man would do so your not taking anything "man" out the game. At the moment it's open for sh!t bags like Clark to get their big hits and youtube highlights by lighting up easy targets.

Players have families, careers and hopefully a long life after football and anything that helps protect that even further in whats already a tremendously rough game I support 100%. It's one thing to get hurt playing football but it's another to get seriously hurt as a result of something that is completely unnecessary.

Willis McGahee is lucky not to be wheeling himself around right now.

 

[Mike the Brit]

Hitting somebody when they're not looking is not something a man would do so your not taking anything "man" out the game. At the moment it's open for sh!t bags like Clark to get their big hits and youtube highlights by lighting up easy targets.

Players have families, careers and hopefully a long life after football and anything that helps protect that even further in whats already a tremendously rough game I support 100%. It's one thing to get hurt playing football but it's another to get seriously hurt as a result of something that is completely unnecessary.

Willis McGahee is lucky not to be wheeling himself around right now.

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