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Bill Belichick, speaking on WEEI in Boston, said he never received an offer for a first- and third-round pick for Matt Cassel.

"They never made that offer to me," Belichick said, indicating there were no official late offers in the Cassel dealing. Without getting too specific, Belichick said he was in contact with multiple teams after Cassel signed his franchise tender and he took the best offer he got. He also indicated that the complexities of a three-way trade (presumably including Jay Cutler) could have taken a long time to play out, largely because it would have been contingent on new contracts. Reading between the lines, it seemed like the Patriots didn't have a firm offer or the patience to wait for one because they needed cap relief.
 
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Suspected this all along.. he did not do Pioli favors.. he did what was best for the team..
 
That's pretty much what NEInsider said on the ESPN message boards, soon after the deal.
 
Likely no formal offer, and as he stated it would be complicated if the three-way deal was an option. I suspect there were some discussions about such a deal, but no formal proposition. The deal with KC had to be done when it was done so that the Pats could move forward with free agency.
 
That's all the proof I need. BB is NEInsider.

ROFL:rofl:

I actually kinda wish he is....Imagine BB with big smirk on his face as he is typing all those stuff...
 
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Did anyone really think Belly would come out saying, "Yes, we were offered two first-rounders by one team, but we declined that offer because we already had a deal in place and it was with my best pal Scott. It was too late."

Think.
 
Did anyone really think Belly would come out saying, "Yes, we were offered two first-rounders by one team, but we declined that offer because we already had a deal in place and it was with my best pal Scott. It was too late."

Think.
Think ?

Do you really think Belichick would turn down a better offer just because the other deal was with best pal Scott ?

Come on, that doesn't pass the sniff test.
 
Bill might lead you guys in the wrong direction, but he doesn't normally flat out lie to the media (injury report notwithstanding). No way he turns down a sweet offer because he "likes Pioli". LOL
 
Think ?

Do you really think Belichick would turn down a better offer just because the other deal was with best pal Scott ?

Come on, that doesn't pass the sniff test.

Ditto. Belichick is lying about not receiving a better offer to conceal his inferior deal with Pioli? To what end? Where's the precedent with Belichick? All good conspiracy theories need at least a few data points, or the call goes out to don the tin foil helmets.
 
I never thought BB would turn down a #1 pick instead of a 2 because it costs more to sign that pick. That never made sense to me.
In BB we trust.
 
maybe BB gave Pioli his word...He should be a man of his words.
He won't admit he took a lesser deal..I won't
 
I sure as heck believe this over the notion of us passing up a 1 and a 3 out of favor. At the most, give Pioli a chance to match it.
 
Maybe most GMs still question whether Cassel can do anything near what he did in a system that doesn't have Randy Moss and Wes Welker... i.e. they think he may look more like the guy in pre-season than the guy at the end of the season.

I still find that tough to believe as I'd have to say Cassel showed a lot of poise and leadership making BIG throws when it counted most - but the fact that Pioli seems willing to take a wait and see on a long term contract suggests that he too may have some doubts.
 
Yes, let's IGNORE BB's all too rational explanation that stuff like 3 way deals take time, that contracts take time to get signed and that there are lots of parties, lots of contingencies and lots of RISK that any small issue blows the deal. It's obvious that the tin hat crowd here has never done business deals. I do admit to inexperience in negotiating complex N way deals.
 
The main thing is the obvious these teams had 1 month to get thier acts together, and did not want him, KC did, Denver was too late end of story..
 
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The main thing is the obvious these teams had 1 month to get thier acts together, and did not want him, KC did, Denver was too late end of story..

BINGO! We have a BINGO!
 
OK, I read that as "we took the best offer that we could get done immediately, to maximize the combined value of trade compensation and free agent acquisitions." Which was the only reasonable thing to do, right? So what is left to this dry husk of a story?
 
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Did anyone really think Belly would come out saying, "Yes, we were offered two first-rounders by one team, but we declined that offer because we already had a deal in place and it was with my best pal Scott. It was too late."

Think.






Did anyone really think Belly would come out saying, "Yes, we were offered two first-rounders by one team, but we declined that offer because we did not want to trade our Pro Bowl calibre QB to one our toughest playoff rivals (Denver),"
 
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