Free Agency Done Without Extensions or Cuts

[mgteich]

Once Wright's contract is accounted for, we'll be down to about $6.4M of cap space, enough to sign veteran jags if needed. A veteran safety, if needed, can wait until after the draft (Harrison or Tank Williams).

Restructures of Brady, Faulk, Light, and/or Green would bring a little bit if needed to sign a mid-level WR or FB. However, any major signing would take cuts or extensions of at least a couple of those contracts. As we all know we've unloaded Cassel, cut Vrabel and restructured Moss to get where we are. So, belichick is willing to make moves if he views it as needed.

BOTTOM LINE
Nothing now NEEDS to be done before the draft, although minor contracts for a WR and/or FB would be welcome by me.

 

[jmt57]

BOTTOM LINE
Nothing now NEEDS to be done before the draft, although minor contracts for a WR and/or FB would be welcome by me.

Yeah, I agree. A WR in the $1-1.5 million range to replace Gaffney, and a FB at around the vet minimum is all that's really left to be done in free agency, and there's no rush based on the number of players available. The other positions (OLB, S, etc.) will come from the draft. I don't know if there are too many other teams that are as comfortable with their roster as it is right now as the Pats.

 

[Ring 6]

Once Wright's contract is accounted for, we'll be down to about $6.4M of cap space, enough to sign veteran jags if needed. A veteran safety, if needed, can wait until after the draft (Harrison or Tank Williams).

Restructures of Brady, Faulk, Light, and/or Green would bring a little bit if needed to sign a mid-level WR or FB. However, any major signing would take cuts or extensions of at least a couple of those contracts. As we all know we've unloaded Cassel, cut Vrabel and restructured Moss to get where we are. So, belichick is willing to make moves if he views it as needed.

BOTTOM LINE
Nothing now NEEDS to be done before the draft, although minor contracts for a WR and/or FB would be welcome by me.

Well, we can use 6.4mill of cap space today and do extensions or cuts later to sign draftees and have the necessary cushion for ps and in season moves.
I dont think any signings need to be contingent on extensions or cuts, we can do them well after the fact.

By the way, does Wright's signing signal the cutting of Jarvis Green?
Wright, IMO moved ahead of Green or at least equal to him on the depth chart. Do we need a 4th DE that costs 3mill of new money? Especially when our 5th DE (smith) looks like he can play too?

 

[signbabybrady]

you said we were done before Bodden, after Bodden, and now again....I still think there could be more to come WR maybe...OLB maybe....Just some resigning of those we all want resigned...I doubt they are done.

 

[mgteich]

I do understand that the extensions can be done later. However, that would put all the cards in the player's hands. The patriots would be forced to do something. I think that since the Milloy debacle, Belichick has avoided such risks.

With regard to Green, I agree that Wright is Green's possible replacement. Green's salary is $2.5M. I don't see him cut this year unless Seymour is extended.

Well, we can use 6.4mill of cap space today and do extensions or cuts later to sign draftees and have the necessary cushion for ps and in season moves.
I dont think any signings need to be contingent on extensions or cuts, we can do them well after the fact.

By the way, does Wright's signing signal the cutting of Jarvis Green?
Wright, IMO moved ahead of Green or at least equal to him on the depth chart. Do we need a 4th DE that costs 3mill of new money? Especially when our 5th DE (smith) looks like he can play too?

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

With the possibility of losing Seymour next year, it might be a good idea to keep Green around unless Sey is extended. I don't think we need the money that bad and having another good DE in the rotation will help us this year too.

I don't think we should waste any money on another WR. Lewis replaced Gaffney with the possibility of picking up a WR in the draft.

 

[mgteich]

I don't think money is the issue. If we don't sign a WR for $1M or so, we'll draft one for $500K or so, probably in the second. The question is whether there is anyone out there that we want. I like Lewis, but it seems extreme to AGAIN have no Plan B if one of the top 3 is injured. Personally, I don't like the idea of Watson as a wide receiver, a role that he held last year. He was our #3 WR.

I would note that if Belichick likes the wide receivers likely to be there in the early second, then the free agent need isn't there.

 

[spacecrime]

By the way, does Wright's signing signal the cutting of Jarvis Green?

I would like to see both. That gives two quality backups on the line. Otherwise one injury and the depth is gone. Wright (or Green) would have to start every game and the rotation would consist of Lekevin Smith.

 

[maverick4]

By the way, does Wright's signing signal the cutting of Jarvis Green?
Wright, IMO moved ahead of Green or at least equal to him on the depth chart. Do we need a 4th DE that costs 3mill of new money? Especially when our 5th DE (smith) looks like he can play too?

Jarvis at 5M needs to be addressed. I'm thinking we should trade him away.

 

[Deus Irae]

Jarvis at 5M needs to be addressed. I'm thinking we should trade him away.

How many times do people have to explain that it's not a $5 million dollar issue?

 

[signbabybrady]

I don't think money is the issue. If we don't sign a WR for $1M or so, we'll draft one for $500K or so, probably in the second. The question is whether there is anyone out there that we want. I like Lewis, but it seems extreme to AGAIN have no Plan B if one of the top 3 is injured. Personally, I don't like the idea of Watson as a wide receiver, a role that he held last year. He was our #3 WR.

I would note that if Belichick likes the wide receivers likely to be there in the early second, then the free agent need isn't there.

Watson 3rd WR last year ??????

 

[Deus Irae]

Well, they reportedly just signed Galloway, making this thread wrong and/or, possibly, just a bit before its time.

 

[Ring 6]

Watson 3rd WR last year ??????

Yeah, I was scratching my head on that one too.

 

[signbabybrady]

MG please start another thread claiming we are done and maybe we will sign an OLB or something.......

 

[supafly]

How many times do people have to explain that it's not a $5 million dollar issue?

Thank you, people forget this all the time when they bring the Jarvis situation up. I would be shocked if they were thinking they could replace his value at the 2-2.5 they'd save. If Mike Wright is worth a little under 2, then Jarvis is certainly worth 2.5.

Now I wouldn't complain if they somehow restructured his hit for this yr, which is more likely

 

[mgteich]

1) I said we had room for some minor signings, and would welcome the signing of a WR and FB.

2) Watson was the #4 receiver last year based on catches. Often it was he, not Gaffney, would would stretch the field. And if Moss or Welker were injured, we would have counted on him even more. This year, we will have FOUR fully qualified wide receivers, the right number in my estimation.

MG please start another thread claiming we are done and maybe we will sign an OLB or something.......

 

[fgssand]

1) I said we had room for some minor signings, and would welcome the signing of a WR and FB.

Yes, and as soon as you said it - poof - Galloway was signed. I agree with SBB - would you please ask for a vet OLB (maybe a former all pro with a fist name starting with the letter J), please.

 

[DaBruinz]

Once Wright's contract is accounted for, we'll be down to about $6.4M of cap space, enough to sign veteran jags if needed. A veteran safety, if needed, can wait until after the draft (Harrison or Tank Williams).

Restructures of Brady, Faulk, Light, and/or Green would bring a little bit if needed to sign a mid-level WR or FB. However, any major signing would take cuts or extensions of at least a couple of those contracts. As we all know we've unloaded Cassel, cut Vrabel and restructured Moss to get where we are. So, belichick is willing to make moves if he views it as needed.

BOTTOM LINE
Nothing now NEEDS to be done before the draft, although minor contracts for a WR and/or FB would be welcome by me.

MG - I found it ironic that you posted this yesterday only to have it announced that the Pats had signed Galloway.

 

[Rob0729]

1) I said we had room for some minor signings, and would welcome the signing of a WR and FB.

Who is actually left for the Pats to sign who would be considered anything more than a minor deal? Jason Taylor? Who else? All the major free agents are gone and all is left is more minor deals. Unless the Pats want to make a trade.