2009 Pro-Day news and notes

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NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Wyoming RB Moore has his (pro) day in Indy

Wyoming RB Devin Moore wasn’t invited to the NFL Scouting Combine, so he had to find another way to get his foot in the door.
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Moore, who grew up in Indianapolis and attended high school there, held his own private “pro day” on Thursday at a sports-training facility near the airport. Fourteen teams attended the “off-campus” workout at which Moore ran the 40-yard dash in 4.43 and 4.41 seconds, had a 35-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot long jump, posted short-shuttle runs of 4.22 and 4.29 seconds and a 7.14-second cone drill, and did 27 repetitions on the bench press.

I have to applaud this kid's agent for being on the ball...unfortunately, I felt Moore played poorly in his Texas vs. The Nation game. Maybe he would have done better with more reps, some RBs just need to be warmed up more - but people who talk about him as a 3rd down back for NE should be nervous about a kid who needs to be warmed up with multiple reps if that's how he'd be used.

 

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No combine for them, but pro prospects still high - NFL - CBSSports.com Football

These players could be drafted despite being left out of the weeklong parade of prospects in Indy. Even if they're not drafted, multiple teams will be interested in their services this summer.

The top 15, ranked regardless of position:

OG T.J. Lang (Eastern Michigan):

ILB Frantz Joseph (Florida Atlantic):

OLB Jason Williams (Western Illinois):

OT Sebastian Vollmer (Houston):

RB Devin Moore (Wyoming):

DT Nader Abdallah (Ohio State):

QB Willie Tuitama (Arizona):

C Cecil Newton (Tennessee State):

TE/HB Travis McCall (Alabama):

DE Phillip Hunt (Houston):

SS Keith Fitzhugh (Mississippi State):

RB/KR Aaron Brown (TCU):

OLB Corey Smith (Cincinnati):

DE Pierre Walters (Eastern Illinois):

CB William Middleton (Furman):

Also watch out for:

• SS Al Afalava (Oregon State)
• RB Curtis Brinkley (Syracuse)
• TE Kevin Brock (Rutgers)
• CB Tony Carter (Florida State)
• FB Conredge Collins (Pittsburgh)
• DT John Faletoese (California-Davis)
• OLB Robert Francois (Boston College)
• CB Londen Fryar (Western Michigan)
• SS Trimane Goddard (North Carolina)
• WR JaRon Harris (South Dakota State)
• TE Branden Ledbetter (Western Michigan)
• DT Clinton McDonald (Memphis)
• SS Terence Moore (Troy)
• DE Jeremy Navarre (Maryland)
• CB Mark Parson (Ohio)
• WR Jamarko Simmons (Western Michigan)
• OLB Johnny Williams (Kentucky)

 

[mmasterkillah]

What is the deal with Brian Toal?

PLEASE someone enlighten me!?

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

What is the deal with Brian Toal?

PLEASE someone enlighten me!?

Injury makes the...who are you asking about again?

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Ball State: Brewster, Davis sit out; Hill runs fast 40

Tight end Darius Hill had an impressive workout. He measured 6-foot-7 and weighed 246 pounds, had a 31-inch vertical leap, a 9-6 broad jump, and ran two 40-yard dashes in 4.75 and 4.74 seconds indoors on a hard surface. His 40 times would have been among the fastest run among tight ends at the combine.

 

[Afterlifemobile-86]

For anyone interested, here are some of Frantz Joseph's pro-day results:


40 time- ran 4.69/4.66.

Vertical Jump- 27 1/2 Inches

Bench Press Reps @ 225- 19


Here is also an additional video from draft guys:

YouTube - Frantz Joseph - LB - Florida Atlantic

 

[mayoclinic]

For anyone interested, here are some of Frantz Joseph's pro-day results:


40 time- ran 4.69/4.66.

Vertical Jump- 27 1/2 Inches

Bench Press Reps @ 225- 19


Here is also an additional video from draft guys:

YouTube - Frantz Joseph - LB - Florida Atlantic

Where did you get 4.69 from? Link please. I was under the impression that he ran a 4.85, based on the following link:

Owls' seniors get chance to impress NFL scouts -- South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

According to this source, his teammate Greg Joseph ran a 4.69.

 

[dryheat44]

The top 15, ranked regardless of position:

OG T.J. Lang (Eastern Michigan):
OLB Jason Williams (Western Illinois):
RB Devin Moore (Wyoming):
DT Nader Abdallah (Ohio State):
C Cecil Newton (Tennessee State):
SS Keith Fitzhugh (Mississippi State):
RB Curtis Brinkley (Syracuse)
OLB Robert Francois (Boston College)
CB Londen Fryar (Western Michigan)
SS Trimane Goddard (North Carolina)
TE Branden Ledbetter (Western Michigan)
DT Clinton McDonald (Memphis)
OLB Johnny Williams (Kentucky)

The ones I have on my watch list. I feel particularly good about Lang, both Williamses, Abdallah, Brinkley, Francois, and (Son of Irving) Fryar.

 

[bakes781]

What about North Carolina WR, Brandon Tate? Because he's recovering from ACL surgery, he did not run the 40 at the Combine. But reports are that he'll likely run at his Pro Day. With no immediate need at WR could the Pats take a flyer on him late on day two?

 

[Afterlifemobile-86]

Where did you get 4.69 from? Link please. I was under the impression that he ran a 4.85, based on the following link:

Owls' seniors get chance to impress NFL scouts -- South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

According to this source, his teammate Greg Joseph ran a 4.69.

Yes, you are correct. The person that i got these numbers from said later it was typo.

 

[PatsChamp88]

NFL.com Official Pro-Day Blog

So far they got Frantz Joseph from Florida Atlantic and certain Miami (Fla.) players.

 

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NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Miami’s Johnson improves on combine numbers

CB Bruce Johnson worked out just three days after running drills at the combine. He checked in at 5-foot-9 and 3/4 inch, weighing 167 pounds.

Johnson posted better times in most categories than he did in Indianapolis. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.42 and 4.45 seconds, had a 38.5 inch vertical, a 10.4 inch long jump, a 4.03 inch short shuttle and a 6.92 second three-cone drill. Johnson did not do the bench press.

The most notable player to work out besides Johnson was fellow Carlos Armour. The defensive back was not at the combine, but looked good in Friday’s work out. He measured in at 6-2 and 1/8 inch, 201 pounds.

He ran a 4.55 and 4.59 second 40-yard dash, recorded a 37.5 inch vertical, a 10-foot long jump and 10 bench press reps.

 

[dryheat44]

NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Miami’s Johnson improves on combine numbers

167? That would be in consideration for the lightest player in the league. I think DeSean Jackson was at 170 at the Combine last year, and I remember thinking he was the smallest NFLer I'd ever seen.

 

[VJCPatriot]

NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Wyoming RB Moore has his (pro) day in Indy I have to applaud this kid's agent for being on the ball...unfortunately, I felt Moore played poorly in his Texas vs. The Nation game. Maybe he would have done better with more reps, some RBs just need to be warmed up more - but people who talk about him as a 3rd down back for NE should be nervous about a kid who needs to be warmed up with multiple reps if that's how he'd be used.

The numbers are decent but not eyepopping. I also think he would have run slower if he had to share the same slow track as the other RBs at the combine. So imo, he's still a 2nd day pick. I would not take him on the 1st day as some have projected. He would have needed to run a blistering 4.3ish to really open eyes. And he didn't do that. And when you consider that his size is only 5'9 198. His speed/size combo just doesn't stand out any more than the average 3rd down back.

 

[Seneschal2]

Michael Crabtree update...

Crabtree will undergo surgery Wednesday

Michael Crabtree will undergo surgery Wednesday, his agent, Eugene Parker, said.

Crabtree, the former Texas Tech and Carter star, will visit Dr. Robert Anderson in Charlotte to have a screw inserted in his left foot to repair a stress fracture. Anderson performed the surgery on the toe of Cowboys running back Felix Jones.

Crabtree said he considered forgoing the surgery to run at Texas Tech's Pro Day on March 26. But Crabtree said NFL scouts told him he's a Top 10 pick and that to run a 40-yard dash is pointless because surgery is more important.

The rehab should take about 10 weeks.

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Obviously he's still one of the draft's elites, and won't be within reach of #23. But I'm curious if he may slide a little. Currently, I've seen him consistently ranked as the draft's #2 overall prospect. Will he slide out of the top 5? I'm guessing he won't because a fast 40 isn't his game to begin with, and his production and film speaks for itself.

Thoughts from the board?

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: Michael Crabtree update...

NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Aggies QB McGee shines in Texas A&M Pro Day

Running back Mike Goodson (5-11 ¾, 212 pounds) ran the 40 in 4.43 and 4.47 seconds and did positional drills for the scouts. His 40 times might be inflated a little because A&M is one of three schools (Wisconsin and Ohio State are the others) to lay down a rubber surface over the top of their indoor field turf, which can result in quicker times. Goodson ran a 4.54 40 at the combine, the seventh-fastest among running backs in Indy two weeks ago.

NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Wisconsin RB Hill sheds weight, does all the drills

Tight end Travis Beckum checked in at 6-2 3/4, 239 pounds. He ran a 4.61 and 4.63 in the 40-yard dash as well as recording a 9-foot 10-inch broad jump. He had a 38.5 inch vertical, a 4.10 short shuttle and a 7.05 three-cone drill. He did not lift.

Guard Kraig Urbik came in at 6-5 3/8, 328 pounds. He ran 5.30 and 5.25 in the 40 and tallied a 4.75 second short shuttle. He did not run the three-cone drill. He put up a 25.5-inch vertical jump and an 8-foot 2-inch broad jump. He did not lift.
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Linebacker Jonathan Casillas is injured and did not work out, nor did linebacker DeAndre Levy. They will work out on April 2.

 

[mayoclinic]

According to Gil Brandt, William Moore had an excellent pro day:

NFL.com Blogs Pro Days

"One player who performed really well was S William Moore. He looked good in his positional drills and was impressive overall. He measured in at 6-foot and a 1/2-inch, 221 pounds. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.51 and 4.49 seconds and the three-cone drill in 6.94 seconds. He also posted a 10-foot, 6-inch broad jump."

Perhaps Moore's stock will climb back up a bit and knock someone else down to us.

I'm still a little leery of Moore based on his poor 2008 campaign, which is a pit because the 2007 William Moore would have been the ideal pick at #23 and would be a monster in our secondary next to Meriweather. His poor performance could have all been a combination of poor coaching use, injuries and increased weight, but it would personally take more than one good pro day to make me jump for him in the first. But at #58 he would be a solid value.

 

[Seneschal2]

He's remaining on my board as a round two option. I have seen him projected as a 3rd-rounder, which would be a steal -- if he develops into that player we observed in '07.

EDIT: Just read that Moore was timed in the low 4.4 range in the 40-yard dash and clocked 4.39 on at least one reading, several people confirmed. Also, the Saints and Fins are showing strong interest.

 

[mayoclinic]

The Saints have #14 and then no pick until the 4th round, so I'm not sure how they would get Moore. Malcolm Jenkins or Vontae Davis look like their most likely options at #14.

The Fins are definite possibilities with picks at #25, 44 and 55. The last 2 picks are right before our #47 and #58 picks, so I could see them picking Moore a couple of picks ahead of us in the 2nd round.

I think Moore is a solid 2nd rounder right now. 2007 is his upside, 2008 his downside. If Louis Delmas had Moore's size (or conversely, if Moore had Delmas' physical style and cover ability) that would be my pick at #23.

 

[PatsSox363804]

The Saints have #14 and then no pick until the 4th round, so I'm not sure how they would get Moore. Malcolm Jenkins or Vontae Davis look like their most likely options at #14.

The Fins are definite possibilities with picks at #25, 44 and 55. The last 2 picks are right before our #47 and #58 picks, so I could see them picking Moore a couple of picks ahead of us in the 2nd round.

I think Moore is a solid 2nd rounder right now. 2007 is his upside, 2008 his downside. If Louis Delmas had Moore's size (or conversely, if Moore had Delmas' physical style and cover ability) that would be my pick at #23.

The Saints will trade down if Loomis has any sense, considering how strong this draft is. That said, no way they take Moore at 14.