A quick question for all the GMs out there - has Cassel signed his tender? [mergedx3]

[patfanken]

Has Matt Cassel actually SIGNED his franchise agreement to date?

And while I'm at it, please answer the following one too. Is it true, as I think it is, that until Cassel ACTUALLY SIGNS the agreement that the $14+MM in cap expense DOESN'T actually get assigned to the Pats. Its just sort of out there in limbo.

It has always been my sneaking suspicion that Cassel won't actually sign the deal until some trade has been worked out or the league calls him on it. That way the Pats will have some cap room to make some moves (hopefully for a CB or S) in early FA. There seems to be a number of "former" high priced guys that will be out there this March. I'd like to see the Pats get one or two.

BTW- Now that I'm in the questioning mode. How much cap room do the Pats currently have (A) if Cassel counts, or (B) if he doesn't.

Well can you help me.

 

[T-ShirtDynasty]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

While I'm no GM... yes, I believe Cassel signed the franchise agreement the day after it was tendered.

 

[JSn]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

Thinking about that, I only remember that he had faxed in a letter of intent to sign it. But I doubt that would escape the notice of the league. It's likely been signed.

 

[reflexblue]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

I seem to remember him signing the franchise offer.
At this time i think the pats (just a rough guess) are about 4-5 million under.

 

[PatsChamp88]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

The Boston Globe reports that Matt Cassel has accepted the one-year, $14.651 million franchise tag the Patriots tendered to him last Thursday.

^^Ther ya go

 

[AzPatsFan]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

I seem to remember him signing the franchise offer.
A this time i think the pats (just a rough guess) are about 4-5 million under.

Miguel says $4.7 million or there about...

 

[reflexblue]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

Miguel says $4.7 million or there about...

Wow that was a pretty good guess. Maybe i should play the lottery tonight.

 

[Miguel]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

And while I'm at it, please answer the following one too. Is it true, as I think it is, that until Cassel ACTUALLY SIGNS the agreement that the $14+MM in cap expense DOESN'T actually get assigned to the Pats.

From the CBA:
"For Transition Players and Franchise Players, the tender will be included in Team Salary when made (my emphasis added) until the player is signed, the tender is withdrawn, the Team’s rights are relinquished, or the Tuesday following the tenth game of the regular season (if the player is unsigned).

 

[Seneschal2]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

Has Matt Cassel actually SIGNED his franchise agreement to date?

At the Combine's press conference today, Pioli was asked if Cassel had signed the tender and he said he didn't believe he signed yet.

It has always been my sneaking suspicion that Cassel won't actually sign the deal until some trade has been worked out or the league calls him on it.

Pioli also said, you can't trade for a player that's not signed under contract.

 

[Terry Glenn is a cowgirl]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

Has Matt Cassel actually SIGNED his franchise agreement to date?

And while I'm at it, please answer the following one too. Is it true, as I think it is, that until Cassel ACTUALLY SIGNS the agreement that the $14+MM in cap expense DOESN'T actually get assigned to the Pats. Its just sort of out there in limbo.

It has always been my sneaking suspicion that Cassel won't actually sign the deal until some trade has been worked out or the league calls him on it. That way the Pats will have some cap room to make some moves (hopefully for a CB or S) in early FA. There seems to be a number of "former" high priced guys that will be out there this March. I'd like to see the Pats get one or two.

BTW- Now that I'm in the questioning mode. How much cap room do the Pats currently have (A) if Cassel counts, or (B) if he doesn't.

Well can you help me.

how many GMs visit this place?

I mean, honestly?

Most of us are simply in fantasy land here.

I'm not saying that it is a bad thing either way.

Just saying...

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

BTW- Now that I'm in the questioning mode. How much cap room do the Pats currently have (A) if Cassel counts, or (B) if he doesn't.

As Miguel noted, it is irrelevant whether Cassel has signed or not; the cap room's not there.

The only fundamental difference it makes is that if he hasn't signed the tender as of the day free agency begins, a team can sign him to a "hostile" offer sheet if it is willing to cough up its next two firsts for him, and that's only if the letter of acceptance doesn't render that option moot.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

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it was reported that he immediately (i.e., within a day or so) "faxed back" the agreement to the Pats...I'm assuming that means he faxed a signed copy with the original to follow.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

how many GMs visit this place?

I mean, honestly?

Most of us are simply in fantasy land here.

I'm not saying that it is a bad thing either way.

Just saying...

I'm a GM...oops, no...that's when i think i'm a car. When i think i'm an NFL honcho, i'm an owner. Yessiree, that's what i am, an NFL owner who drives a GM car.

Anyway, that's my story and i'm sticking to it!

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

it was reported that he immediately (i.e., within a day or so) "faxed back" the agreement to the Pats...I'm assuming that means he faxed a signed copy with the original to follow.

per Adam Schefter's blog: NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Cassel signs $14.65M franchise tender

Cassel signs $14.65M franchise tender

Posted: Adam Schefter

Now that QB Matt Cassel has signed his $14.65 million non-exclusive franchise tender — the largest guarantee on a one-year contract in the history of the NFL — some around the league believe it’s 95 percent that he remains in New England.

The only way the Patriots would trade Cassel is if they know QB Tom Brady is healthy, and even if they do, the bidder needs to be to Cassel’s liking and offer a contract to his liking, or there’s no deal.

That’s not to say it can’t happen. But it’s not going to be easy to make it happen.

 

[Raymond]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

how many GMs visit this place?

I mean, honestly?

Most of us are simply in fantasy land here.

I'm not saying that it is a bad thing either way.

Just saying...

how many took the thread title literally?

I mean, honestly?

Some of us are simply in fantasy land here.

I'm not saying that it is a bad thing either way.

Just saying...

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

per Adam Schefter's blog: NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Cassel signs $14.65M franchise tender

That was posted February 7.

Mr. Gasper reported on February 9:

Cassel accepts franchise tag from Patriots
By Christopher L. Gasper
Globe Staff / February 9, 2009

A National Football League source confirmed yesterday that Patriots quarterback Matt Cassel and his representative sent a signed letter Saturday notifying the Patriots that Cassel accepts the non-exclusive franchise tag and the one-year, $14.65 million tender that goes with it.

The development was not unexpected, and is akin to the sides agreeing to contract terms. The news was first reported by ESPN's Chris Mortensen Saturday night.

All that remains is for the Patriots to send Cassel a formal contract with the tender offer and he will sign it, guaranteeing himself a significant raise from the $520,000 he made last season. (Unlike standard NFL contracts, franchise tenders are guaranteed for the full amount.)

So it's at least possible that Pioli is right.

 

[jmt57]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

On the NFL's own website, they list Cassel as being re-signed/franchised with the one-year tender offer as of February 9th.

NFL Transactions

I realize nfl.com offers opinions and analysis, but I'd have to think their list of transactions would be about as 'official' as you can get.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

On the NFL's own website, they list Cassel as being re-signed/franchised with the one-year tender offer as of February 9th.

NFL Transactions

I realize nfl.com offers opinions and analysis, but I'd have to think their list of transactions would be about as 'official' as you can get.

I wouldn't put it past them to have a mistake, though, as they screwed up their own draft order list.

 

[pats1]

Re: a quick question for all the GMs out there

On the NFL's own website, they list Cassel as being re-signed/franchised with the one-year tender offer as of February 9th.

NFL Transactions

I realize nfl.com offers opinions and analysis, but I'd have to think their list of transactions would be about as 'official' as you can get.

It's not. Not even close.

The only true official one out there is Pro Football Weekly's, except that they haven't updated it in a few weeks (they usually do it every other day or so):

NFL Zone - NFL pro football information and updates from Pro Football Weekly

 

[jmt57]

Re: A quick question for all the GMs out there

So we have incomplete versus inaccurate; not so sure which one I should put more faith in.