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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.James Sanders, even if he stayed is a role player and it would be great to draft guy like this, bring back Rodney for one more go-around to tudor the kid and use the 3 of them in the triangle safety rotation that we like to run and I can see him eventually gaining more and more snaps as the season progresses to give Rodney more of a blow. We would have potentially the next Atwater/Dennis Smith with Moore and Meriweather
Bold one: true - safety seems like a position we need to fill with a big-time player, unlike CB
Bold two: a tudor is a period of medieval architecture spanning 1485–1603.
Bold three: that's some serious rookie hazing.
I see a lot of talk about us drafting a FS early, and I agree we need a safety, but isn't Meri technically a FS? We don't have a young, knock-out SS, shouldn't that be the focus?
I might be missing the difference, but isn't a SS "almost" a linebacker, with speed and mad cover skills?
Wow, you're pretty smaaaaaaaat. I will definately start spell checking any more of my responses to your posts....asap.....But more to the relevant point at hand. James Sanders needs to be upgraded and Will Moore is that guy. I'm really hoping he's a Patriot in April.
I was just messing with you. And sadly I don't have one of those adorable Bostonian accents.
So do we traditionally carry four safeties? That could make a case for Meri, Moore, Sanders and Harrison for one year.
Which is exactly why I'm hoping Mr. William Moore falls right into our laps at 23 and there's a good chance that might happen based on his somewhat disappointing Senior Bowl week.
James Sanders, even if he stayed is a role player and it would be great to draft guy like this, bring back Rodney for one more go-around to tudor the kid and use the 3 of them in the triangle safety rotation that we like to run and I can see him eventually gaining more and more snaps as the season progresses to give Rodney more of a blow. We would have potentially the next Atwater/Dennis Smith with Moore and Meriweather
I was just messing with you. And sadly I don't have one of those adorable Bostonian accents.
So do we traditionally carry four safeties? That could make a case for Meri, Moore, Sanders and Harrison for one year.
Technically, Strong Safety refers to the side...
The Queen talks kinda funny...Thanks BOR! That's a very helpful explanization.
Oddly enough, there is a post in the Top 100 thread stickied above that links to the "Value Chart" created by Wes Bunting for National Football Post. Will Moore is projected as a 4th round value, which is also where Mike Mayock was looking at him following his Senior year. Our Moore fans above remember a fine junior campaign that had him projected as a first round pick by many observers, but in the 'what have you done for me lately' world of the NFL, lately for Moore is a difficult senior season capped off by a poor Senior Bowl. I have little doubt that he will be available at 23, though I expect BB to draft Louis Delmas before he drafts Moore.
Now, back to your first query:
- Technically, Strong Safety refers to the side of the formation with the greatest number of receivers, e.g.: if the formation had Moss and Welker on one side, and Gaffney, Watson, and Evans on the other, the three receiver side is the secondary's "strong" side. Free Safety seems to have derived from the Man-Free coverage where a single defender floats in the middle of the field with no individual coverage assignment while trying to read the QB's intentions and keep an eye on the other defenders playing man-to-man.
- Safeties for New England are preferably adept at both coverage and run support. Size is nice if one is going to be doing more run support than the other, but tackling ability and good read/react skills are more critical.
- Rodney is a wily old veteran who was drafted in the 5th round, whether he proved to be as good as he is in his rookie year I couldn't say, but I'd guess he's like a number of others who spend a couple years developing on Special Teams before all the pieces fall together and they explode into the NFL consciousness.
- Meriweather is more of a ballhawk than Sanders, which is why I believe he was down in the box playing the 'Rodney role' more than James; however, both can play either position. Aging CB Artrel Hawkins was moved to Safety his first year with the team and played more of a Strong Safety role - tackling ability and the experience/mental speed to read/react faster in a short area trumps size.
- Draftnik sites not fixated on Will Moore's junior season now have Louis Delmas and Patrick Chung as the top two Safeties in this class. Some suggest Sean Smith may be a Free Safety for some teams and rank him up with them.
Box. Good post. Very thorough. Thank you. My guy to throw in here is Nik Harris from OU. The kid can play both safety positions and OLB. BB type versatility. He has run a 4.5. He is 6'2" and 233 lbs. He can cover and hit like hell. He could be the in-the-box Rodney guy as well.The good news is they are trying to jam him into the OLB position so he drops down in the draft but he was a safety at OU. He is also an excellent citizen and community kid. The big news is his cover skill. James Sanders did not do well there. I think Lewis Sanders played Safety down the stretch better than James S. and will cost us less to resign. He was just starting to get it. He can also play corner in a pinch so he has versatility. Lewis is also bigger than James at 6'1" and 210. So Merriweather, Harrison, Harris and Lewis Sanders for a rotation (if Rodney comes back) Would be an upgrade. I think Sean Jones , the FA from Cleveland could be considered. He is only 27 and has recovered from his injuries if Rodney retires. One FA and a good draft SS would work.
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Well DW, I wouldn't touch Harris with your pole - they had him play LB at the Senior Bowl for a reason. I've also disagreed with your take on James Sanders, he may not be the greatest S in the NFL, but he's far better than you've ever given him credit - I expect BB to make an honest effort to re-sign him as the Patriots Field-Marshall in the secondary (I also believe he'll be less expensive than some of the UDFA studs being tossed out as options - this is going to be a cost conscious offseason). I predict Rodney will not be ready for Training Camp/Pre-season and will be working out and doing TV commentary until needed as an injury replacement in mid-season. I would like to see Lewis Sanders re-signed for another year to continue his tweener/STs duties and provide some veteran stability for the youngsters - he's also a tall CB for situational roles against the Antonio Gates of the league. I expect BB to draft at least 2 Safeties/CB tweeners and sign at least one more as a priority UDFA.Box. Good post. Very thorough. Thank you. My guy to throw in here is Nik Harris from OU. The kid can play both safety positions and OLB. BB type versatility. He has run a 4.5. He is 6'2" and 233 lbs. He can cover and hit like hell. He could be the in-the-box Rodney guy as well.The good news is they are trying to jam him into the OLB position so he drops down in the draft but he was a safety at OU. He is also an excellent citizen and community kid. The big news is his cover skill. James Sanders did not do well there. I think Lewis Sanders played Safety down the stretch better than James S. and will cost us less to resign. He was just starting to get it. He can also play corner in a pinch so he has versatility. Lewis is also bigger than James at 6'1" and 210. So Merriweather, Harrison, Harris and Lewis Sanders for a rotation (if Rodney comes back) Would be an upgrade. I think Sean Jones , the FA from Cleveland could be considered. He is only 27 and has recovered from his injuries if Rodney retires. One FA and a good draft SS would work.
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Well DW, I wouldn't touch Harris with your pole - they had him play LB at the Senior Bowl for a reason.QUOTE]
I would agree with this. The idea of Nic Harris playing both safety positions plus LB is just not realistic - I'd be happy if he could realistically play one out of 3. The best case is that he would be another Tank William, who we could probably resign if we wanted.
Well DW, I wouldn't touch Harris with your pole - they had him play LB at the Senior Bowl for a reason.QUOTE]
I would agree with this. The idea of Nic Harris playing both safety positions plus LB is just not realistic - I'd be happy if he could realistically play one out of 3. The best case is that he would be another Tank William, who we could probably resign if we wanted.
I'm very interested to see how well Jonathan Casillas runs with that in mind.
I'm very interested to see how well Jonathan Casillas runs with that in mind.