Patriot Place a BUST??

[Rob0729]

I'd still personally go to Wrentham over Patriot Place if I was going to considering it's not that far away. And I don't think you can compare a street in the heart of a city with an outdoor shopping mall in Foxboro. People that plan the locations of those malls spend a ton of time studying the local logistics and target populations before they decide on where to build. Kraft hoped that the lure of the Pats connection would be enough to get people shopping there instead of Boston or Wrentham or Natick. I wasn't so convinced back then and I'm certainly less convinced now that the economy sucks.

Good luck going to Wrentham if you want to buy office supplies or fishing gear or go out to dinner and a movie. Wrentham and Patriot Place are two very different places. Wrentham is an outlet mall. Patriot Place is a shopping and entertainment complex. Wrentham obviously offers a lot more variety of shops and deals, but Patriot Place offers a lot more than Wrentham has in other areas.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Either way, jmo but Patriot Place wasn't necessarily designed to be just another shopping mall anyway. The Bass Shop is a huge anchor

I think it was built to keep the OL happy.

 

[jmt57]

Nice to see that EVERYTHING doesn't turn to gold out there.

I don't quite follow the line of reasoning why a person (Cartwright) would spend so much of their time with something they obviously dislike (the Pats).

For example, I don't care for pro wrestling. Therefore I don't follow it, watch it, or read about it. Posting comments about how stupid I think it is on a message board would be about the last thing I would spend my time doing.

We get it, you don't like the Pats; you make it obvious with nearly every comment you post. In case you didn't notice the name of this site is Pats FANS. Wouldn't you be happier spending your time at the message board of whatever team you do like? Or at PatsHaters.com, where you could put on your Bernard Pollard Fan Club t-shirt and bash the Pats all night and all day with your fellow colleagues?

In the meanwhile, please consider getting help for your obsessive compulsive disorder, or get your Zoloft and Lexapro prescriptions refilled.

 

[tanked_as_usual]

THIS GUY KNOWS STUFF.

The only reason i would go to patriot place is for the hall or on gameday. otherwise, I would shop in Wrentham, Providence, or N. Attlleboro.

dude......why even go there......

there's always walmart.......or ocean state job lot......or building 19

 

[BPF]

Problem is that those places are in the city and are easily accesible by the masses. Patriot Place is in the middle of nowhere.

Foxborough in not in rural Maine. Foxborough is only 22 miles SW of Boston and 18 miles NE of Providence. In addition there are a lot of afluent communities in Norfolk (The 28th highest income county in the US on a per capita income basis). Like I said in my previous post, the Krafts are not stupid and this place will work out. It's the middle of a very cold winter in a bad economic cycle, everyone is suffering a bit and all you have to do is turn on the evening news to see that this is not a Patriot Place problem but a larger scale one.

 

[BPF]

Good luck going to Wrentham if you want to buy office supplies or fishing gear or go out to dinner and a movie. Wrentham and Patriot Place are two very different places. Wrentham is an outlet mall. Patriot Place is a shopping and entertainment complex. Wrentham obviously offers a lot more variety of shops and deals, but Patriot Place offers a lot more than Wrentham has in other areas.

Bingo.....

 

[sieglo]

Kraft should have teamed up with some local Indian tribe and built a casino there. Now THAT would be something to survive any downturn.

 

[Fixit]

No way Patriot Place makes this team.

 

[PatsSox363804]

Kraft should have teamed up with some local Indian tribe and built a casino there. Now THAT would be something to survive any downturn.

Now that would have been a great idea. A Pats themed casino would be awesome, and since it takes a year and a half to get out of there anyway I'm sure a lot of fans would make a weekend out of it with shopping, a casino, and the hotel.

You could have Pats slots where 3 lombardis is the jackpot

Pats video poker with Tony Eason on the Queen.

etc.

 

[jmt57]

Kraft should have teamed up with some local Indian tribe and built a casino there. Now THAT would be something to survive any downturn.

True but the NFL would have been all over that. While they provide weekly injury reports for the benefit of those betting on the point spread, any appearance of a connection between a team or its personnel and gambling is a big no-no in their book. Look at how they forced the Rooneys to choose between owning a race track or owning the Steelers.

 

[tanked_as_usual]

True but the NFL would have been all over that. While they provide weekly injury reports for the benefit of those betting on the point spread, any appearance of a connection between a team or its personnel and gambling is a big no-no in their book. Look at how they forced the Rooneys to choose between owning a race track or owning the Steelers.

casino doesnt necessarily mean sportsbook

 

[tanked_as_usual]

which brings me to another point.......why don't they just permanently put the superbowl in las vegas?????

 

[Wildo7]

Good luck going to Wrentham if you want to buy office supplies or fishing gear or go out to dinner and a movie. Wrentham and Patriot Place are two very different places. Wrentham is an outlet mall. Patriot Place is a shopping and entertainment complex. Wrentham obviously offers a lot more variety of shops and deals, but Patriot Place offers a lot more than Wrentham has in other areas.

Right I'd probably go there for the Bass pro Shop once in a while. But remember we're talking about the average consumer. I'm not driving all the way to foxboro for dinner and a movie, and I doubt most people would either. Same with office supplies, I'll go to Natick. If your looking at people shopping for clothes, there's places they'd probably pick before going to foxboro, that was my point. Same with office supplies. I'm just saying, I don't see a whole lot of people going there very often when they can subtitute what Pats Place has with what's closer to them.

 

[Rob0729]

Right I'd probably go there for the Bass pro Shop once in a while. But remember we're talking about the average consumer. I'm not driving all the way to foxboro for dinner and a movie, and I doubt most people would either. Same with office supplies, I'll go to Natick. If your looking at people shopping for clothes, there's places they'd probably pick before going to foxboro, that was my point. Same with office supplies. I'm just saying, I don't see a whole lot of people going there very often when they can subtitute what Pats Place has with what's closer to them.

From the sound of it, you are not really in the primary target area of Patriot Place anyway. Most malls and restaurants in the burbs are not destination travel places. If you live in Foxboro, you aren't likely to drive to South Shore Plaza over Patriot Place for shopping and dinner.

I doubt that Kraft built this place nor companies rent in this place expecting that anyone not in a 10-20 mile radius would be coming to the complex more than a couple times a year. Even a place like Patriot Place isn't expected to be destination where people outside the immediate area would go to more than a few times a year. I bet they get a lot of repeat traffic from people on Rte 95 south of the 128/95 split. And that is a lot people since towns like Canton, Sharon, Norwood, Dedham, etc. are towns with fairly large populations.

 

[Double G]

"I don't quite follow the line of reasoning why a person (Cartwright) would spend so much of their time with something they obviously dislike (the Pats).'

There is a technical term for people like him and I am not trying to talk down to any of you guys using fancy medical words, but here goes; he's a ballbreaker.

Plus, he's just torked off because there is no shrine to the Manning family down there at Patriots Place.

And for the record, he's a Colts fan and when they pull their usual one and done playoff act, then he's a Giants fan; he's actually just a Manning family ballwasher.

 

[godef]

Why would someone take a vacation to foxboro? I can see people staying overnight on a Saturday or Sunday night during the regular season but not otherwise.

The Tweeter Center in Mansfield is not too far away. And there are big name concerts at Gillette. Don't they have conventions there? And if they're smart, the hotel will price itself just right to help attract visitors to Boston or Providence. Makes me wonder if Kraft has considered staging a future outdoors game with the Bruins.

 

[Pats726]

The Tweeter Center in Mansfield is not too far away. And there are big name concerts at Gillette. Don't they have conventions there? And if they're smart, the hotel will price itself just right to help attract visitors to Boston or Providence. Makes me wonder if Kraft has considered staging a future outdoors game with the Bruins.

Oh...I agree with all except the last...Bruins game?? I heard some talk of this a few weeks ago..and the consensus was MORE that it would be in the Boston area..NOT Fenway..most easily Harvard Stadium...but who knows???

 

[Tunescribe]

I think the restaurants are doing well, but the stores tend to be pretty much in the trendy high-end range. The movie theater complex is really nice. The one night I went there recently, ate at Skip Jack's and went to a movie. The restaurant was packed. Just a few people in the movie theater.

 

[Rob0729]

The Tweeter Center in Mansfield is not too far away. And there are big name concerts at Gillette. Don't they have conventions there? And if they're smart, the hotel will price itself just right to help attract visitors to Boston or Providence. Makes me wonder if Kraft has considered staging a future outdoors game with the Bruins.

I'm sure that Kraft will try try to hold more events in Gillete during the offseason especially spring and summer to help drive more traffic to Patriot place.

 

[Wildo7]

Oh...I agree with all except the last...Bruins game?? I heard some talk of this a few weeks ago..and the consensus was MORE that it would be in the Boston area..NOT Fenway..most easily Harvard Stadium...but who knows???

Well I'm not sure, but that is about the Winter Classic, can the Bruins put other games outside if they want?