Lombardi on Mangini, Patriots and GM

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The National Football Post | National Football Post Tavern Talk

I hear that new Browns coach Eric Mangini is rearranging the offices and plans on making huge changes in Cleveland. He’s going to put his own stamp on the franchise, and no job is safe. But former head coach Romeo Crennel will stay on in the football operation after he has hip surgery. The Browns might look at Nick Cesario of the Patriots as a GM candidate if George Kokinis turns down the job — which some suspect he may.

this is the diff between mangini and mcd. mcd said he hasnt spoken to capers because he is still under contract but we have mangini rumoring talking to another pats exec.

 

[Gunnails]

Re: Lombardi on mangini,patriots and GM

The National Football Post | National Football Post Tavern Talk

this is the diff between mangini and mcd. mcd said he hasnt spoken to capers because he is still under contract but we have mangini rumoring talking to another pats exec.

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This article does not imply that Mangini has talked to Cesario.

RC will be quite an asset for EM, I thought RC might come back to the Pats.

 

[Tunescribe]

Re: Lombardi on mangini,patriots and GM

I never hated the Browns. Now with Tubby Ratfink running the show there, I have a healthy contempt for them. But in a sense it doesn't matter -- they'll go nowhere with him.

 

[reflexblue]

Re: Lombardi on mangini,patriots and GM

Why another team would give this guy a HC job is baffaling. He had one good season in NY, then all the smoke and mirrors motivational tricks wore off. I guess Clevland has become the Jets,or Oakland of the Central division. A Black Hole for a lot of high draft picks, and money.

 

[Clonamery]

Re: Lombardi on mangini,patriots and GM

Why another team would give this guy a HC job is baffaling. He had one good season in NY, then all the smoke and mirrors motivational tricks wore off. I guess Clevland has become the Jets,or Oakland of the Central division. A Black Hole for a lot of high draft picks, and money.

Maybe the owner is a boxing fan......

 

[reflexblue]

Re: Lombardi on mangini,patriots and GM

Maybe the owner is a boxing fan......

You could be on to something here, its that kind of thinking that gets you where the Jests and Oakland are.

 

[Gwedd]

Re: Lombardi on mangini,patriots and GM

You could be on to something here, its that kind of thinking that gets you where the Jests and Oakland are.

That, or perhaps they are simply in need of more tax write-offs. I'd consider listing the entire franchise as a charity case.....

 

[DaBruinz]

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this is the diff between mangini and mcd. mcd said he hasnt spoken to capers because he is still under contract but we have mangini rumoring talking to another pats exec.

That isn't what was said. Not to mention that Mangini can talk to Caserio about a position that is a promotion regardless of whether Caserio is under contract or not. He doesn't need the Pats permission.

McDaniels probably needs permission because the Special Assistant position may be considered higher than a DC position.

As for Crennel's return to Cleveland, why did Lerner terminate his contract then? Why didn't he just re-assign Crennel if he wanted to keep him in the organization?

 

[PatsFanSince74]

And another, once-great Franchise shows why it has been spiralling downwards for over a decade.

 

[signbabybrady]

And another, once-great Franchise shows why it has been spiralling downwards for over a decade.

Are you refering to the Browns????

who are a new franchise since 2002?

Remember they moved to Baltimore and became the ravens. The Browns did not exist for a few years until they were given an expansion team back.

I think it is more a struggle to go upwards than a spiral down. Look no further than the Bucs to see how hard it can be for a franchise to get going.

 

[BelichickFan]

who are a new franchise since 2002?

They've been back since 1999 - not that noticeably, though

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Are you refering to the Browns????

who are a new franchise since 2002?

Remember they moved to Baltimore and became the ravens. The Browns did not exist for a few years until they were given an expansion team back.

I think it is more a struggle to go upwards than a spiral down. Look no further than the Bucs to see how hard it can be for a franchise to get going.

On a technical note--as a result over the acrimonious move, the NFL declared that the Ravens are the expansion team, and that the Browns "suspended operations" for a couple of years. In other words, the "franchise history" for the Ravens, as far as the NFL is concerned, began when they arrived in Baltimore.

 

[signbabybrady]

On a technical note--as a result over the acrimonious move, the NFL declared that the Ravens are the expansion team, and that the Browns "suspended operations" for a couple of years. In other words, the "franchise history" for the Ravens, as far as the NFL is concerned, began when they arrived in Baltimore.

I know you said technical - But my point was that they are not spinning downward but have been struggling to climb up since they had to restart.

on your technical note - that is the way it should be, so its nice to see its the case. But just because they get to keep their history doesn't mean they still were not basically an expansion team.

They've been back since 1999 - not that noticeably, though

I guess I was thinking they came in with the Texans but I stand corrected.