Tom Curran on Dan Patrick

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Dan Patrick.com

NBCSports.com's Tom Curran joined the show to give a couple of updates

1. Boston College needed some continuity at head coach and the school thought Jeff Jagodzinski would provide stability. Part of the problem is that Jagodzinski didn't tell B.C. what was up. Curran said that the Jets will not hire Jagodzinski. He doesn't have the impressive resume the Jets are looking for.

2. Curran says Tom Brady's knee is still screwed up, so the Patriots will franchise-tag Matt Cassel. Curran even says Cassel will play next year, because he doesn't expect Brady to be ready by Week 1.

 

[DaBruinz]

Dan Patrick.com

Tom Curran seems to have turned to the Dark side of journalism.. Going with things that aren't supported by reliable sources.

 

[DarrylS]

Tom Curran seems to have turned to the Dark side of journalism.. Going with things that aren't supported by reliable sources.

I disagree, if you heard him on EEI last week his version is not all that different from others who have tended to have looked on the bright side too much...

Tom Curran is one of the best and does not try to be the local resident contrarian..

TC is the reliable source.. the others are just conjecture, King does not have inside info, Sharia Springer does not have the sources that TC has...

 

[BelichickFan]

Tom Curran seems to have turned to the Dark side of journalism.. Going with things that aren't supported by reliable sources.

He's certainly going out on a limb all by himself. The only thing that concerns me is I wouldn't think he'd continue to make statements like this unless he had something reliable to back it up. It seems unlikely to me that he's the only one who knows the truth, though, and all the others (King, Casserly, Breer) are wrong. I can certainly buy that he's behind (relative to when he got hurt, not to the Rivers/Palmer schedule) and that he might need a cleanup procedure. Expecting him to not be back for week 1, though, Curran seems to be alone on that.

 

[Clonamery]

Well, he is right about one thing for sure: Cassel will play next year. Somewhere.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

2. Curran says Tom Brady's knee is still screwed up, so the Patriots will franchise-tag Matt Cassel.

Even if Brady were ahead of schedule, they'd still franchise Cassel. . . .

 

[signbabybrady]

He's certainly going out on a limb all by himself. The only thing that concerns me is I wouldn't think he'd continue to make statements like this unless he had something reliable to back it up.

I think I have heard that argument before (not saying from you) and it pertained to Thomasse last year.


note: I am not saying that Curran is going all Thomasse on us just that the argument there doesn't fly.


IMO Currans article doesn't change a thing. I was concerned Brady wouldn't be ready week one prior to Currans article and I still am. I think there is a good chance Tom will be ready but I also don't think it is that far fetched to think the infection has set him back.

 

[DefenseRules]

Whatever you say Curran.

 

[SVN]

He's certainly going out on a limb all by himself. The only thing that concerns me is I wouldn't think he'd continue to make statements like this unless he had something reliable to back it up. It seems unlikely to me that he's the only one who knows the truth, though, and all the others (King, Casserly, Breer) are wrong. I can certainly buy that he's behind (relative to when he got hurt, not to the Rivers/Palmer schedule) and that he might need a cleanup procedure. Expecting him to not be back for week 1, though, Curran seems to be alone on that.

thats exactly what worries me too. he isnt tomase. Only thing is that its a fluid situation and things change so who knows what will happen in the next 6 months wrt to the injury

 

[atomdomb]

Here is my theory on Curran and the Brady knee...

If Brady is totally healthy and the Pats franchise Cassell and then trade him, I have heard that the NFL might frown on that. It is within the rules but not really why they have the franchise tag. The Pats have been caught up in the cheating bullsht and don't need any extra aggravation from the NFL front offices.

Curran's reliable source is within the organization and they are feeding him a line of bull. Brady is really healthy but the Pats want everyone to think he isn't. They will then franchise Cassell and trade him when Brady has made a "drastic and rapid" recovery during the preseason. This keeps the NFL off their backs as well as keeping Cassell for juicy trade bait. imo

 

[BelichickFan]

I disagree, if you heard him on EEI last week his version is not all that different from others who have tended to have looked on the bright side too much...

What is known is that you can start rehab around Feb 1. and still make it back for week 1. Rivers had his surgery after the AFCCG last year, Palmer in the first week of the playoffs with a more serious injury and they both made it back.

Unless Brady has to wait until mid February or later to have any touch ups done or unless his rehab will be slower than the others once he can go full throttle there is no reason that he won't be back week one.

 

[mike_usagisan]

TC always seemed reliable, and I have no reason to think that he's reporting this just to be contrary.

Frankly, I think all these reports are a waste of time. Either Brady will be ready or we'll keep Cassel. And the front office will have the actual medical reports when the time to make a decision comes, so they'll make that call - which is what I really care about.

And based on that decision, we'll know who is going to play before the first game of next season. So who really cares if Curran says he won't be ready and King, etc. says he will? We'll all know by the time it's relevant. Until then, it just seems like a bunch of little girls plucking daisy petals... "The knee will be fine." "The knee won't be fine." "The knee will be fine." "The knee won't be fine." ...

 

[tuckeverlasting]

Here is my theory on Curran and the Brady knee...

If Brady is totally healthy and the Pats franchise Cassell and then trade him, I have heard that the NFL might frown on that. It is within the rules but not really why they have the franchise tag. The Pats have been caught up in the cheating bullsht and don't need any extra aggravation from the NFL front offices.

Curran's reliable source is within the organization and they are feeding him a line of bull. Brady is really healthy but the Pats want everyone to think he isn't. They will then franchise Cassell and trade him when Brady has made a "drastic and rapid" recovery during the preseason. This keeps the NFL off their backs as well as keeping Cassell for juicy trade bait. imo

shhhhhhhh....!!!

 

[ctpatsfan77]

TC always seemed reliable, and I have no reason to think that he's reporting this just to be contrary.

Frankly, I think all these reports are a waste of time. Either Brady will be ready or we'll keep Cassel or O'Connell will be ready or they'll sign a veteran in the offseason. And the front office will have the actual medical reports when the time to make a decision comes, so they'll make that call - which is what I really care about.

And based on that decision, we'll know who is going to play before the first game of next season. So who really cares if Curran says he won't be ready and King, etc. says he will? We'll all know by the time it's relevant. Until then, it just seems like a bunch of little girls plucking daisy petals... "The knee will be fine." "The knee won't be fine." "The knee will be fine." "The knee won't be fine." ...

Fixed your post for you. The Patriots do have other options besides Brady and Cassel (though I doubt Gutierrez is part of their long-term plans).

 

[BelichickFan]

but I also don't think it is that far fetched to think the infection has set him back.

We know the infection set him back. However if he can rehab full throttle starting in the next 4-6 weeks he is on the successful Rivers/Palmer schedule.

 

[SoCal Bong]

I heard the interview. Curran had a bit of a defensive tone.

Why didn't DP ask him why there are conflicting reports? or about his sources?

DP's comedy has boiled down to the same bit being used in every interview. He asks a variation of the "which child do you love more?" question.

Would you rather play for the Yankees or Red Sox?
Which coach is better?
Who is going to win the upcoming game?

The interviewee doesn't fall for the trap. DP keeps going after it from slightly different angles until he gets something that could very loosely be interpreted an answer and then cues his breaking news music and goes into his news voice "This just in, Reggie Miller says that Kobe is better than MJ" or whatever. It is so old but he continues to do it over and over which makes it more annoying because you know its coming.

 

[BelichickFan]

My opinion - and I'm sticking with it - is :

1 - "Tom Brady's knee is still screwed up" - well, sure. He had his ACL replaced and likely has a minor scar tissue cleanup to have done. Then he needs to rehab. So, yes, his knee is screwed up.

2 - "he doesn't expect Brady to be ready by Week 1." - this is where I think Curran is forgetting the timeline of Rivers and Palmer and forgetting that IT'S OK if Brady isn't going full speed on rehab yet. It's a setback based on getting hurt in September but not for being on the field week 1.

I've said it before, Curran is a nice guy but he's over his head on the national scene. Those of you who have seen him on TV have seen him forget names and generally look confused at least once per appearance. It's just the way it is and based on how I perceive him from those many appearances I find it extremely plausible that his facts are correct but his conclusions are (likely to be) wrong.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Fixed your post for you. The Patriots do have other options besides Brady and Cassel (though I doubt Gutierrez is part of their long-term plans).

You're right - though I think it is probably more likely KO'C over Guitz. Preseason might determine it (or maybe not - as this season has shown).

That said, I'd bet the Pats would want to get off to a fast start with Cassel rather than go through growing pains with KO'C, and try and trade Cassel later once Brady's back.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

You're right - though I think it is probably more likely KO'C over Guitz. Preseason might determine it (or maybe not - as this season has shown).

That said, I'd bet the Pats would want to get off to a fast start with Cassel rather than go through growing pains with KO'C, and try and trade Cassel later once Brady's back.

The problem with that is, if Brady is going to play 2009, but isn't ready to go in week 1, there are only two possibilities:

(1) If Brady is going to be ready, before week 6, then they have to hold a roster spot for him. I can live with that.

(2) If Brady clearly isn't going to be ready until after week 6, though, then they need to PUP him so they can have the extra roster spot. But, by the time Brady can come back, the trading deadline will have passed.

 

[mike_usagisan]

(2) If Brady clearly isn't going to be ready until after week 6, though, then they need to PUP him so they can have the extra roster spot. But, by the time Brady can come back, the trading deadline will have passed.

Is it so bad if Cassel rides the bench for the rest of the season after starting the first six games, and then we trade him next off season? If the front office thinks he's good enough, then waiting shouldn't hurt his trade value. If they think he might be a one-trick-pony, then they need to trade him now, when they think his value will be at its highest.

I'm inclined to think he's good enough that he'll do fine through the first six games.