An idea about overtime

[Pats726]

Tom Curran suggested exactly that. The main objection is that two strong offenses could keep putting up field goals. The coaches and owners are opposed, as mentioned above, to the extra wear and tear.

So I'd make this change -- allow the other team exactly one matching possession. If the first team scores and the second team scores and the first team scores again, OT is over. If you can't generate a stop in two series, you don't deserve to win.

The Curran plan is interesting...
4. Anyone wanna hear my OT Plan?
-----"Matching possessions. Same as "win by two" in a game of pickup hoop. That would alleviate the "team that wins the toss wins the game" issue (and that's been happening more and more in recent years) but it wouldn't bastardize the game by using the college overtime rules. So if I get the ball first in overtime and score a touchdown, I still have to kick off to you and allow you to have that possession to its conclusion. If I stop you on a three-and-out, you punt to me so that the continuity of the offense-defense-special teams aspect of the game isn't erased. If I score, game's over. If I don't and you score on your second possession, I still get a chance to match. Caveat: If I get the ball first, score a touchdown and opt for an onsides kick that I recover, the game's over. Gimme some feedback on this. ".......I don't know how field goals would reallyenter into it...I wish to know more...but something DOES need to be done...
(And I still like my original solution..)

 

[Deus Irae]

I agree it's not at all like BB or hockey...I like my original suggestion better than what is there now..did you read that? What you were responding to was my response to another proposal of OT.

I wasn't digging at your post. I saw you mention sudden death and it fit what I wanted to say. I should have made that clear, so my apologies for any confustion.

 

[Pats726]

I wasn't digging at your post. I saw you mention sudden death and it fit what I wanted to say. I should have made that clear, so my apologies for any confustion.

No not at all...thanks...the back forth is more like college and the respondent had something similar....so I was answering that...Really I THINK something has to get done..to change this...so that it is fair..BUT NOT like college...Curran's idea isn't bad...but like winning by to in roundball isn't the same.....how about ahead by 8 OR the team that is leading after 15 min of play?? SO if a team wins by 8 it is done...OR if a team tries to get the 8, they may lose out and with 6..the other team could get 7 and win. Keeping the ball may not help. Just another twist to it...trying to FIND a solution...8 is a good number because it is not easy a TD and 2...OR a TD and FG..but scoring...

 

[trench]

Here's some numbers through the 2007 season regarding overtime since the rule was adopted in 1974:

417 overtime games

294 times both teams had at least one possession (70.5% of all OT games)
123 times the team that won the toss drove for the winning score (29.5%, 88 FG, 35 TD).

222 times times the team that won the toss won the game (53.2%)
179 times the team that lost the toss won the game (42.9%)

289 games decided by a FG (69.3%)
110 games decided by a TD (26.4%)
2 games decided by a safety (0.48%)
16 ties (3.8%)

 

[Pats726]

Here's some numbers through the 2007 season regarding overtime since the rule was adopted in 1974:

417 overtime games

294 times both teams had at least one possession (70.5% of all OT games)
123 times the team that won the toss drove for the winning score (29.5%, 88 FG, 35 TD).

222 times times the team that won the toss won the game (53.2%)
179 times the team that lost the toss won the game (42.9%)

289 games decided by a FG (69.3%)
110 games decided by a TD (26.4%)
2 games decided by a safety (0.48%)
16 ties (3.8%)

Thanks nice stats....what would your solution be???

 

[trench]

Thanks nice stats....what would your solution be???

To be honest, I don't have a problem with the way it is. I like the sudden death aspect. There aren't that many ties as a result (16 total since 1974) and the winner of the coin flip only wins 53.2% of the time anyway.

 

[Deus Irae]

Here's some numbers through the 2007 season regarding overtime since the rule was adopted in 1974:

417 overtime games

294 times both teams had at least one possession (70.5% of all OT games)
123 times the team that won the toss drove for the winning score (29.5%, 88 FG, 35 TD).

222 times times the team that won the toss won the game (53.2%)
179 times the team that lost the toss won the game (42.9%)

289 games decided by a FG (69.3%)
110 games decided by a TD (26.4%)
2 games decided by a safety (0.48%)
16 ties (3.8%)

The problem with your stats is that they are misleading because of the difference between the numbers back in 1974, and the numbers over the past 10 years. I've posted the numbers on one or more threads elsewhere on this site this week, but the team that wins the coin flip has been winning closer and closer to 50% of the games without the opponent ever getting the ball over the past few years, and the coin flip team is winning more than 60% of the games overall.

 

[Pats726]

The problem with your stats is that they are misleading because of the difference between the numbers back in 1974, and the numbers over the past 10 years. I've posted the numbers on one or more threads elsewhere on this site this week, but the team that wins the coin flip has been winning closer and closer to 50% of the games without the opponent ever getting the ball over the past few years, and the coin flip team is winning more than 60% of the games overall.

Where?? I would like to see how the trend is going?? Thanks again..

 

[trench]

The problem with your stats is that they are misleading because of the difference between the numbers back in 1974, and the numbers over the past 10 years. I've posted the numbers on one or more threads elsewhere on this site this week, but the team that wins the coin flip has been winning closer and closer to 50% of the games without the opponent ever getting the ball over the past few years, and the coin flip team is winning more than 60% of the games overall.

Those aren't my stats, they're the NFL's. A rough glance at the last 10 years (1998-2007, actually) shows that the winner of the coin toss does win the game around 58-59% of the time. However, that same rough glance shows that the winner of the coin toss drives for the winning score on the first drive around 35% of the time. Up from the 1974-2007 numbers to be sure, but each team has gotten a shot at scoring in OT roughly 65% of the time in that recent 10 year span.