Should fans realize O'Connel is Cassel 2.0 & Matt is awesome trade bait?

[BigMike]

If this coaching staff can coach Matt up, they can and will do the same with O'Connell. Lets realize Tom Brady is the man, one of the best QB's in league history. Matt Cassel will be a great bargaining chip as we reload for 2009.

 

[maverick4]

Big Mike, Cassel is an unrestricted free agent after this season, we don't control his rights unless we want to sign him to an expensive multi-year deal at this point, or franchise him.

 

[BigMike]

unless we franchise him...we can franchise him and then trade him.

 

[unoriginal]

If this coaching staff can coach Rohan Davey up, Kevin O'Connell will be a slam dunk superstar.

 

[jmt57]

Cassel is a free agent so it's unlikely a team would trade for him, unless the Pats try to (franchise) tag and trade him. Keep in mind there are some risks to that move though.

Check out these threads on the subject if you want, but I doubt the Pats get anything for him. This season is his audition to the rest of the NFL for a big payday.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...54-question-about-2009-cassel-salary-cap.html

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england.../10/177835-2009-franchise-tag-number-qbs.html

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...ardi-says-patriots-have-franchise-cassel.html

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...keep-jets-getting-cassel-next-year-page2.html

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/165593-downside-franchising-cassel.html

 

[BelichickFan]

Check out these threads on the subject if you want, but I doubt the Pats get anything for him. This season is his audition to the rest of the NFL for a big payday.

QB who get big paydays don't leave their team getting nothing. Unless you're the Chargers I guess. Morons, letting Brees go for nothing.

 

[Patslifer]

QB who get big paydays don't leave their team getting nothing. Unless you're the Chargers I guess. Morons, letting Brees go for nothing.

I agree. You could work that high payed first year into some type of signing bonus. We would be IDIOTS to let him walk for nothing. Teams like the bears, the niners, the lions, the vikes and the phins would be foolish not to take a look. Can you imagine the Vikes with a good QB?

 

[ausbacker]

I think it'll come down to the teams preference over Derek Anderson or Matt Cassel. One would imagine Quinn will get the starting job over Anderson, leaving him and Cassel as the major QB acquisition during the upcoming offseason.

This assuming the Browns wish to trade Anderson.

 

[BelichickFan]

I think it'll come down to the teams preference over Derek Anderson or Matt Cassel. One would imagine Quinn will get the starting job over Anderson, leaving him and Cassel as the major QB acquisition during the upcoming offseason.

This assuming the Browns wish to trade Anderson.

Anderson blows. The days of a big QB who can throw the ball downfield but with no accuracy died in the 70s. Anderson was bad in the second half of last year and worse this year. The NFL these days is for mobile, accurate QB and the deep ball in nice but low on the list.

 

[LasVegasPatsFan]

Pats will get something for Cassel, guaranteed. The front office is smarter than you think. I believe they will use the franchise tag on him because there will be alot of teams looking for a QB of his caliber. That is if he continues to progress.

 

[RayClay]

If this coaching staff can coach Rohan Davey up, Kevin O'Connell will be a slam dunk superstar.

Ha ha. Who let reality in?

 

[fumbrunner]

Pats will get something for Cassel, guaranteed. The front office is smarter than you think. I believe they will use the franchise tag on him because there will be alot of teams looking for a QB of his caliber. That is if he continues to progress.

Even without the risk of franchising Cassel, we will likely get a comp pick if he leaves unrestricted. Either way, we get something. With the emergence the young LBs, I dont see the pats being that active in the free agent market.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Even without the risk of franchising Cassel, we will likely get a comp pick if he leaves unrestricted. Either way, we get something. With the emergence the young LBs, I dont see the pats being that active in the free agent market.

You may be correct but I'd bet that BB would jump at a quality FA safety, a CB, or an OL. As Vrabes ages, a FA pass rusher would also be interesting. The draft should be a source of talent but BB hasn't been too productive with 2nd round picks lately.

 

[marcus]

You can not franchise a player with the intent of trading him, that violates the CBA.

There is no way the Pats will put that much money into a backup QB. Cassell willl leave and the Pats will only get a 4th round comp pick for him

 

[Canada's #1 Pats Fan]

You can not franchise a player with the intent of trading him, that violates the CBA.

There is no way the Pats will put that much money into a backup QB. Cassell willl leave and the Pats will only get a 4th round comp pick for him

They did it with Tebucky Jones, didn't they?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

You can not franchise a player with the intent of trading him, that violates the CBA.

Where does it say that?

 

[Wildo7]

wouldn't it be an enormous waste of cap space for 2009 if the Pats were to just trade him for Picks, considering they would have had to sign him to a large one-year contract?

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Where does it say that?

It's right there on the crystal ball, right next to the Made in Mexico sticker.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

If this coaching staff can coach Matt up, they can and will do the same with O'Connell. Lets realize Tom Brady is the man, one of the best QB's in league history. Matt Cassel will be a great bargaining chip as we reload for 2009.

why would anyone trade for him if they get him on the FA market in the spring?

 

[Bonzo]

You can not franchise a player with the intent of trading him, that violates the CBA.

You know, this would be a reasonable rule to me. The action would sort of violate the spirit of the franchise tag. (Then again, so does just about every other purpose for which it is used.) I've expected somebody to drop evidence of such a restriction throughout these discussions, but it hasn't surfaced yet, and I'm pretty sure franchised players have been traded before.