BJGE fined 5k for late hit

[Box_O_Rocks]

Fining Wilfork for hitting Jay Cutler away from the play as he tried to get up off the ground is understandable - it protects a multi-million dollar investment from excessive harm, defined as hitting a player away from the action.

Fining BJeepers for hitting a guy one step out of bounds is stepping off the tightrope balancing act between protecting players from harm and mothering them into tutus and footy pajamas. It sends a message that playing to the whistle is no longer the standard for tackling the ball carrier (there is no way that hit occured after the whistle, at worst it was simultaneous to the whistle). BJeepers should have drawn a flag, that's the rule, but his play was not egregiously dangerous, did not occur away from the play, and was no worse than some of the late hits on QBs, most of which do not earn a fine. I'm just sure Roy Williams was fined for his first horse collar tackle.

If BJeepers gets fined for this, watch for Seymour & Co. to draw fines for late hits on the QB, helmet to helmet, or striking the helmet of the QB. Most of those "incidents" occur at game speed and are inadvertant, especially factoring in momentum.

This was a bogus fine, excessive to the situation. Goodall & the Competition Committe are off the tightrope and putting in a five lane highway.

 

[DaBruinz]

Guys -
While I am against the excessive fining that Goodell has been doing, I think most of you who are against this fine are forgetting something. This was going on under Tagliabue's tenure as well.

You are also forgetting that we don't hear about other players being fined. In fact, I'd be willing to bet we hear only 1/100th of the fines that are actually handed out. For various reasons. The biggest one is that the local guys just don't tell us when other players are fined unless it made the news to begin with. Such as the times when Roy Williams horse collared people and blew their knee out or something. Other than that, we just don't hear about it.

 

[Pats726]

Guys -
While I am against the excessive fining that Goodell has been doing, I think most of you who are against this fine are forgetting something. This was going on under Tagliabue's tenure as well.

You are also forgetting that we don't hear about other players being fined. In fact, I'd be willing to bet we hear only 1/100th of the fines that are actually handed out. For various reasons. The biggest one is that the local guys just don't tell us when other players are fined unless it made the news to begin with. Such as the times when Roy Williams horse collared people and blew their knee out or something. Other than that, we just don't hear about it.

If it was done under Tags..it was done quietly and and never with the amounts..it also was kept in house and done with civility..As to whether Patriots fans are hearing all about fines from other teams..there are places where one can find about things like that. One hundreth of fines?? That is PURE BS.. cite a source on that?? SO..in your head..we know of two fines for Patriot players this week...with your logic of 1 in 100...there would be about 200 other fines this week?? THAT is laughable...you must have flunked math...NOT even close..

 

[DaBruinz]

If it was done under Tags..it was done quietly and and never with the amounts..it also was kept in house and done with civility..As to whether Patriots fans are hearing all about fines from other teams..there are places where one can find about things like that. One hundreth of fines?? That is PURE BS.. cite a source on that?? SO..in your head..we know of two fines for Patriot players this week...with your logic of 1 in 100...there would be about 200 other fines this week?? THAT is laughable...you must have flunked math...NOT even close..

Its called exaggeration for affect. Sorry that you are to inept to figure that out. Also, I said I bet we hear about only 1/100 of the fines handed out. I didn't restrict it to strictly the Patriots or restrict it to a single week's timeframe. By my logic, that means that over the course of the season, there are probably a lot more fines handed out than we know of.

It was done under Tags and it wasn't done quietly. Some were announced by the media. I can remember Carl Pickens of the Bengals getting cited for wearing the wrong color socks. There have been other players fined as well. As I said, we generally don't hear about it because the local reporters don't mention ever fine that goes out.

Why do I need to cite sources when I am stating an opinion based on what I've seen. Tell me, do you hear about the fines that happen to players in Seattle or in Kansas City? I don't. But I hear about the ones in Dallas because I currently live outside of Dallas. I also hear about the ones for the Pats because I read the Globe and Projo.

 

[T-ShirtDynasty]

Fining Wilfork for hitting Jay Cutler away from the play as he tried to get up off the ground is understandable - it protects a multi-million dollar investment from excessive harm, defined as hitting a player away from the action.

Fining BJeepers for hitting a guy one step out of bounds is stepping off the tightrope balancing act between protecting players from harm and mothering them into tutus and footy pajamas.

Even worse though, it seems that the consistency is mind boggling...

BJeepers gets fined, while the killer helmet-to-helmet hit that Lawyer Milloy put on a defenseless LJ Smith, which DID draw a flag for unnecessary roughness last weekend, goes without a fine. ?!?

 

[Pats726]

Its called exaggeration for affect. Sorry that you are to inept to figure that out. Also, I said I bet we hear about only 1/100 of the fines handed out. I didn't restrict it to strictly the Patriots or restrict it to a single week's timeframe. By my logic, that means that over the course of the season, there are probably a lot more fines handed out than we know of.

It was done under Tags and it wasn't done quietly. Some were announced by the media. I can remember Carl Pickens of the Bengals getting cited for wearing the wrong color socks. There have been other players fined as well. As I said, we generally don't hear about it because the local reporters don't mention ever fine that goes out.

Why do I need to cite sources when I am stating an opinion based on what I've seen. Tell me, do you hear about the fines that happen to players in Seattle or in Kansas City? I don't. But I hear about the ones in Dallas because I currently live outside of Dallas. I also hear about the ones for the Pats because I read the Globe and Projo.

I have another word for what it was PURE BS....and exaggeration or not THAt is what it was. The ONLY ineptness is one who writes things and steps in it.. like you did..NO...your LOGIC missed out entirely..NOW it seems you are sayingt "hat means that over the course of the season, there are probably a lot more fines handed out than we know of." REALLY.NO S***!!..If that was what you meant why didn't you say that?? Not my problem that people write dumb things and run away from them...Yes of course we do not know ALL of them...but there are plnety of places that one can learn about the fines..espcially repeat offenders..or really dumb things like the socks..ACtually it was done a LOT quieter..please go back and read some of the PFT archives from that time..there were fines but NOTHING AT ALL like what has been happening with Goodell. Not even close.

 

[matt1073]

This fine is beyond stupid.

It's a freakin' game. Not a criminal enterprise.

I'm sure his intent was anything other than hurting the guy carrying the ball.

Goodell is an idiot.

Fines for a penalty on the field. Ludicrous.

Goodell needs to go.

I Second that Goodell needs to go

 

[upstater1]

Guys -
While I am against the excessive fining that Goodell has been doing, I think most of you who are against this fine are forgetting something. This was going on under Tagliabue's tenure as well.

You are also forgetting that we don't hear about other players being fined. In fact, I'd be willing to bet we hear only 1/100th of the fines that are actually handed out. For various reasons. The biggest one is that the local guys just don't tell us when other players are fined unless it made the news to begin with. Such as the times when Roy Williams horse collared people and blew their knee out or something. Other than that, we just don't hear about it.

I had never heard of a fine for late hit out of bounds during Tags tenure.

 

[wdkantro2]

Does anyone have a clip of BJGE's hit? I only saw the fourth quarter of the game since I was working all day until then.

 

[stcjones]

Patriots blog - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com

Rookie RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis has been fined $5,000 by the NFL for a late hit on Rams CB Fakhir Brown in Sunday's 23-16 win over the Rams.

It was a late hit, the fine is understandable.

I have to say....that I am proud of him on this.....so many players going through the motions......BJGE (love the nickname) PLAYS SOME F'in Football......and yeah he is a little late....but damn it....he's playing some ball......and giving it everything he has......Kraft ought to give him a 5k bonus......wasn't that dangerous of a hit....just late........I hope more Pats plays get an infusion of his "fire".......Now, you want to talk about a dangerous hit....that was NOT given a fine....was a spearing shot on Cassel helmet to helmet during the Denver game......will have to double check on who the culprit was..........GO BJGE!!!!!

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I have to say....that I am proud of him on this.....so many players going through the motions......BJGE (love the nickname) PLAYS SOME F'in Football......and yeah he is a little late....but damn it....he's playing some ball......and giving it everything he has......Kraft ought to give him a 5k bonus......wasn't that dangerous of a hit....just late........I hope more Pats plays get an infusion of his "fire".......Now, you want to talk about a dangerous hit....that was NOT given a fine....was a spearing shot on Cassel helmet to helmet during the Denver game......will have to double check on who the culprit was..........GO BJGE!!!!!

My bet...Briz, Wendel...

 

[WhiZa]

If that (half a step out of bounds) late hit was worth 5k, how much is pulling someone's hair (Johnson vs Polamalu) after they are tackled and stood up then talking smack the rest of the time? This is ridiculous.

I guarantee the only reason he was fined was because the league was going through the Wilfork tapes and happened to watch that one. In the meantime the entire league is whining so they are throwing them a bone making BJGE the martyr.

 

[stcjones]

If that (half a step out of bounds) late hit was worth 5k, how much is pulling someone's hair (Johnson vs Polamalu) after they are tackled and stood up then talking smack the rest of the time? This is ridiculous.

I guarantee the only reason he was fined was because the league was going through the Wilfork tapes and happened to watch that one. In the meantime the entire league is whining so they are throwing them a bone making BJGE the martyr.

Good point...Goodell should be consistent at the least........this fine is ridiculous...simply because it happens all the time.....and many others are worse.....

 

[NJPatsfan26]

Good point...Goodell should be consistent at the least........this fine is ridiculous...simply because it happens all the time.....and many others are worse.....

Goodell is consistent.....at bringing down the NFL......

 

[VJCPatriot]

Patriots blog - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com

Rookie RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis has been fined $5,000 by the NFL for a late hit on Rams CB Fakhir Brown in Sunday's 23-16 win over the Rams.

It was a late hit, the fine is understandable.

But holy crap 5K to a UDFA is a huge chunk of cash! Ouch. Was the hit that bad/blatant??

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

But holy crap 5K to a UDFA is a huge chunk of cash! Ouch. Was the hit that bad/blatant??

In comparison to so-called late hits and actual late hits you see every game, no, pretty run of the mill half step too late collision.