Defensive Liabilities: Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison, O'Neal

[maverick4]

Each of these players is below the mean when it comes to average NFL players at their respective position. Seymour hasn't been the same since signing his huge contract, Bruschi and Harrison have heart but their bodies can't keep up anymore, and O'Neal may be 05 Duane Starks all over again.

The defense scares me way more than our offense right now.

As for offense, Cassel may hold the ball too long but he is improving as a game manager and doesn't make too many killer mistakes. McDaniels is unimaginative and predictable, but so far he gets bailed out by the skill of the players he coaches.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Sad too because in games before tonight and absent facing a wildcat option offense they all looked to be better than average and better than many assumed. But hey, it's the what have you done for me last night crowds time to vent and rant.

 

[Patslifer]

Each of these players is below the mean when it comes to average NFL players at their respective position. Seymour hasn't been the same since signing his huge contract, Bruschi and Harrison have heart but their bodies can't keep up anymore, and O'Neal may be 05 Duane Starks all over again.

The defense scares me way more than our offense right now.

As for offense, Cassel may hold the ball too long but he is improving as a game manager and doesn't make too many killer mistakes. McDaniels is unimaginative and predictable, but so far he gets bailed out by the skill of the players he coaches.

Man I love being right. To all those who called me an idiot for calling out lazy ass players like Sey, you can say sorry anytime you want!

 

[maverick4]

Sad too because in games before tonight and absent facing a wildcat option offense they all looked to be better than average and better than many assumed. But hey, it's the what have you done for me last night crowds time to vent and rant.

Nope, nice try, I'm not in the crowd that is saying the sky is falling, and I defend the Pats more than most in terms of how they'll do this year.

I see a 10-6 season and would be pleased with that, I'm not a bandwagon fan and my expectations are realistic.

But Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison, and O'Neal are major liabilities on the field, sorry you're too drunk on the kool-aid to see.

 

[emoney_33]

Man I love being right. To all those who called me an idiot for calling out lazy ass players like Sey, you can say sorry anytime you want!

I'm sorry that you are a moronic troll with 0 football knowledge.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Nope, nice try, I'm not in the crowd that is saying the sky is falling, and I defend the Pats more than most in terms of how they'll do this year.

I see a 10-6 season and would be pleased with that, I'm not a bandwagon fan and my expectations are realistic.

But Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison, and O'Neal are major liabilities on the field, sorry you're too drunk on the kool-aid to see.

O'Neal saved the JETS game. Bruschi and Harrison were being touted as playmakers vs. SF and KC. It's just that a lot of you have ADHD and can't remember past the last thing you saw. And even then you don't understand what it represented.

And then there are the aholes adding to your thread who only show up when they think what the other nitwits among us are saying has vindicated their previous blather...

 

[Patslifer]

I'm sorry that you are a moronic troll with 0 football knowledge.

Really how so?

I said Seymour has overrated / done

Maroney was injury prone

Jackson was a bust

The secondary was horrid


Looks like I was right on all counts, to bad you can't accept it chump Are you saying my claims are not true. Most of the board agrees with my thoughts. To bad so sad, jerky.

 

[FarScapeR]

They stopped the run all night. I think that means the D-Line was doing it's job. Against the pass, no sacks or hits, but I think that has more to do with the entire defense. Also, losing Jarvis Green for the night didn't help.

 

[BradyToMoss]

Man I love being right. To all those who called me an idiot for calling out lazy ass players like Sey, you can say sorry anytime you want!

Ditto.........................

Seymour talks a good game, talks about finally being healthy and how dominant he'll be, I'm still waiting for that to happen.

He doesn't mention his bank account or the slice of pie that he has taken out of this team's Salary CAP, yet people will find a way to justify everything he does. I don't understand it.

 

[Brady to Brown]

Really how so?

I said Seymour has overrated / done

Maroney was injury prone

Jackson was a bust

The secondary was horrid


Looks like I was right on all counts, to bad you can't accept it chump Are you saying my claims are not true. Most of the board agrees with my thoughts. To bad so sad, jerky.

What about Mayo or Merriweather did you see their promise?

Or do you just like to focus on the negative?

 

[BradyToMoss]

Look at this garbage. Seymour is taking in more cake than Moss right now and is 2cond right behind Brady. FOR WHAT ?? And this is after he was paid 14mill as the highest paid player in this LEAGUE, YES THE LEAGUE in 2006. Something ain't right here man. Something is rotten in Denmark.

C'mon Sey, start earning your cake. You've been invisible for a long, long time now.

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[Patslifer]

What about Mayo or Merriweather did you see their promise?

Or do you just like to focus on the negative?

Search my posts I have praised Mayo and Merrriweather. I love Brandon.

 

[PatriotNMP43]

Man I love being right. To all those who called me an idiot for calling out lazy ass players like Sey, you can say sorry anytime you want!

I knew the D sucked too but I HATED BEING RIGHT.

I REALLY WISH I WAS WRONG.

 

[Kontradiction]

I knew the D sucked too but I HATED BEING RIGHT.

I REALLY WISH I WAS WRONG.

Same here. It's sad. If Seymour doesn't improve throughout the course of the year then we really need to see what kind of draft choices we can get for him. He's simply being paid too much money to not be at least effective in all phases of the game. He made four tackles last night but we should be seeing him in on the pass rush too.

 

[SVN]

You guys maybe right but where were you when we won in SF and NY ? If we win next week after giving up 24 pts for e.g. will you show the same concern or just say "a W is a W and we will take it " ?

Our defense has problems, we had them in the duane starks era too and alternated wins and losses.got blown out at home with brady throwing water bottles.Saw mike bell run through our defense.We ended up in the AFCDiv game. Yes past is past but then so is 2007. Lets wait and watch what happens.

 

[PatriotNMP43]

You guys maybe right but where were you when we won in SF and NY ? If we win next week after giving up 24 pts for e.g. will you show the same concern or just say "a W is a W and we will take it " ?

I thought the D looked great the 1st 2 weeks, in fact that Jets game should be the blueprint for how well they can play. We all know how fired up the Patriots get for the Jets, too bad they can't get fired up like that every week.

I still hold out hope for improvement week to week from the defense, what can i say, i am a hopeless optimist.

 

[Patslifer]

You guys maybe right but where were you when we won in SF and NY ? If we win next week after giving up 24 pts for e.g. will you show the same concern or just say "a W is a W and we will take it " ?

Our defense has problems, we had them in the duane starks era too and alternated wins and losses.got blown out at home with brady throwing water bottles.Saw mike bell run through our defense.We ended up in the AFCDiv game. Yes past is past but then so is 2007. Lets wait and watch what happens.

NY I will give you.....but who cares about the niners? They suck, and we should have pounded them. The D cannot defend a top flight offensive attack. The writing has been on the wall for years. Wilfork, Warren, Merriweather, Mayo, Gutton, Hobbs, Wright and Greene are the type of guys we need out there. Seymour, Bru, Vrabel and Harrison need to be cut or take paycuts. Yes, they are legends, but they are simply to old and slow to play at a high level anymore.

I gave bru some credit for being much faster this year, but he needs to be replaced asap, he is not the answer anymore.

 

[Lansdowne]

That whole secondary is a liability right now. O'Neal and Hobbs were getting toasted all night.

 

[Patslifer]

That whole secondary is a liability right now. O'Neal and Hobbs were getting toasted all night.

True, but Hobbs is a good player... O'neal is a jag at best, and we all knew that before. Bru, Sey, Vrabel, Thomas and Harrison are past their prime. Thomas is worth keeping, vrabel should stay if he takes a paycut, but Sey and Harrison need to be axed.

 

[scout]

I'm sorry that you are a moronic troll with 0 football knowledge.

Hold on their brother, before you pigeon hole Mav you need to check out his Red Sox posts.