Why is no one asking the question?

[dhamz]

No team with a HOF/All Pro starting QB has a backup who can come in and lead them to the Super Bowl if they lose that QB for the season. The team is built around Brady. The OL is built for his pocket presence and quick release. The defense is built to play with a lead.

Cassel has done what his job was. He held down the fort while Brady missed a few games. No one would have complaints if Tom was coming back next week and the team was 3-2.

Unfortunately, Brady's season ending injury changed his job.

 

[dtbrks]

Cassel has done what his job was. He held down the fort while Brady missed a few games. No one would have complaints if Tom was coming back next week and the team was 3-2.

Unfortunately, Brady's season ending injury changed his job.

And there it is right there, something I failed to mention before. Cassel or any back up is meant to hold the fort until the number 1 guy comes back.

 

[NJPatsfan26]

No team with a HOF/All Pro starting QB has a backup who can come in and lead them to the Super Bowl if they lose that QB for the season. The team is built around Brady. The OL is built for his pocket presence and quick release. The defense is built to play with a lead.

Cassel has done what his job was. He held down the fort while Brady missed a few games. No one would have complaints if Tom was coming back next week and the team was 3-2.

Unfortunately, Brady's season ending injury changed his job.

Yes and IMO, he is doing the best he can and do the best of the coaches ability to salvage a hurt season and team.

I have never said that Cassel will replace Brady, but he is doing the best he can based upon what we see on TV and what we read on here and thru the various sports new outlets.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Why is no one asking the question of how supposedly knowledgable fans can ignore the fact that even if Tom Brady were playing, and our Defense was giving up 30+ points, we might well still be 3-2?

 

[Pats726]

How in hell can Bill B. turn over the team to some jamoke who hasn't started a game since high school? The media should be all over him. Veterans coming to this team to win? Taking pay cuts? To be led into a game by a guy with as much experience my local high school QB? And don't give me the "Brady didn't have much experience either" excuse. Brady type players come along every 30 years. Cassel is not Brady. No one other than Manning is even close. And he is HofF material.

It is rediculous. It was almost cute watching Cassel struggle to play during the preseason when Brady was healthy. The fact that he was still on the team was ignored because Tom was healthy and we were winning games.

As long as the ship was afloat and running strong, no one noticed the set of floaties that were in the closet in case the ship went down. Well, guess what...:scared:

Hey I guess you haven't been paying attention...jamoke..loud mouth with nothing upstairs..go follow a team like the raiders..maybe you will feel better...hopefully bandwagon fans and the like will be gone.. BYE!!!

 

[Iron Helmet]

Hey I guess you haven't been paying attention...jamoke..loud mouth with nothing upstairs..go follow a team like the raiders..maybe you will feel better...hopefully bandwagon fans and the like will be gone.. BYE!!!

There are 3 kinds of fans:

1. Bandwagon fans.
2. Blind, drunk on Kool Aid fans.
3. Intelligent fans, that though they are loyal to their team, they will not hesitate to question the decisions made by the leaders done in the best interests of the team.

I am 3. You are 2.

PS I have been paying attention. Cassel sucks.

 

[emoney_33]

There are 3 kinds of fans:

1. Bandwagon fans.
2. Blind, drunk on Kool Aid fans.
3. Intelligent fans, that though they are loyal to their team, they will not hesitate to question the decisions made by the leaders done in the best interests of the team.

I am 3. You are 2.

PS I have been paying attention. Cassel sucks.

4. Clueless fans, that though they know nothing about football believe they are smarter than BB/SP, and anyone who disagrees with them is instantly labeled a "homer".

 

[Rob0729]

There are 3 kinds of fans:

1. Bandwagon fans.
2. Blind, drunk on Kool Aid fans.
3. Intelligent fans, that though they are loyal to their team, they will not hesitate to question the decisions made by the leaders done in the best interests of the team.

I am 3. You are 2.

PS I have been paying attention. Cassel sucks.

Ummm.... There is a fourth kind of fans.... The ones who overreact with every loss and start to pointing at individual players and coaches for a system-wide loss.

Questioning decisions does not make you an intelligent fan. Some of the most ignorant fans on this board question decisions of this team. They are the anti-version of the die-hard Kool-Aid Drinkers and are usually less rational in their arguments.

 

[Iron Helmet]

Ummm.... There is a fourth kind of fans.... The ones who overreact with every loss and start to pointing at individual players and coaches for a system-wide loss.

Questioning decisions does not make you an intelligent fan. Some of the most ignorant fans on this board question decisions of this team. They are the anti-version of the die-hard Kool-Aid Drinkers and are usually less rational in their arguments.

I agree. However, I think if you look at Cassel's body of work, it is clear he cannot make down field reads. Take away the stuff he can do (short passes), and his ability to lead this team is neutralized.

He may improve (and I stress MAY), but it will be at the expense of the 2008 season. And Brady will be back. So, unless Bill is planning on essentially preping a backup for TB in 2009, the decision to go with Cassel to lead us in 2008 is questionable, at best. Hell, even Madden was commenting about his ability to see down field ("80 percent of his passes are within 10 yards").

 

[Iron Helmet]

4. Clueless fans, that though they know nothing about football believe they are smarter than BB/SP, and anyone who disagrees with them is instantly labeled a "homer".

Hate to break it to ya...it is possible that BB/SP made a mistake.

 

[NJPatsfan26]

Hate to break it to ya...it is possible that BB/SP made a mistake.

So what if they made a mistake....are you going to say that this is a lost season?

 

[emoney_33]

I agree. However, I think if you look at Cassel's body of work, it is clear he cannot make down field reads. Take away the stuff he can do (short passes), and his ability to lead this team is neutralized.

He may improve (and I stress MAY), but it will be at the expense of the 2008 season. And Brady will be back. So, unless Bill is planning on essentially preping a backup for TB in 2009, the decision to go with Cassel to lead us in 2008 is questionable, at best. Hell, even Madden was commenting about his ability to see down field ("80 percent of his passes are within 10 yards").

It's the progress of a young QB in the Patriots system. The Patriots are most likely giving Cassel more and more leeway each week. Cassel probably also has to build confidence in himself. We can't expect the kid to come in and start lighting it up when he hasn't started at QB since high school. It's frustrating because we are so used to having Brady back there but we gotta be realistic with our expectations here. Cassel gives us the best chance to win right now, and in December if this team can continue to improve.

There's nothing else we can really do, we just have to hope Cassel continues to improve and gain more confidence. Right now he may not be seeing the whole field properly, or taking as many shots as he should, but he IS improving. We were 5-5 after 10 games in our first superbowl season. All is not lost, the team just has to work their asses off to get better each and every week.

 

[Iron Helmet]

So what if they made a mistake....are you going to say that this is a lost season?

Hard for me to say. With Cassel at the helm, I would say YES, if I was put on the spot. However, BB may make a move to remedy the situation. Certainly a RB upgrade would help, if not a change at QB.

 

[emoney_33]

Hate to break it to ya...it is possible that BB/SP made a mistake.

Of course it's possible, and they have no doubt made mistakes in the past. Doesn't mean you know more than them or that you have the ability to argue some things with such limited information. Never said they couldn't be wrong. But I trust them 100% more than I would ever trust you with any football decision.... EVER.

 

[NJPatsfan26]

It's the progress of a young QB in the Patriots system. The Patriots are most likely giving Cassel more and more leeway each week. Cassel probably also has to build confidence in himself. We can't expect the kid to come in and start lighting it up when he hasn't started at QB since high school. It's frustrating because we are so used to having Brady back there but we gotta be realistic with our expectations here. Cassel gives us the best chance to win right now, and in December if this team can continue to improve.

There's nothing else we can really do, we just have to hope Cassel continues to improve and gain more confidence. Right now he may not be seeing the whole field properly, or taking as many shots as he should, but he IS improving. We were 5-5 after 10 games in our first superbowl season. All is not lost, the team just has to work their asses off to get better each and every week.

I was going to say about the 5-5 after 10 games in our first SB season.

All is not lost indeed. So we will be fine. The next few weeks IMO will help Cassel get into his grove and really start to unleash his potential.

 

[Iron Helmet]

Of course it's possible, and they have no doubt made mistakes in the past. Doesn't mean you know more than them or that you have the ability to argue some things with such limited information. Never said they couldn't be wrong. But I trust them 100% more than I would ever trust you with any football decision.... EVER.

My bet would be that they feel the same way I do, and are trying to figure out the best course of action in light of the available players and information.