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I suppose we can throw the 2008 season out the window. The question now becomes, is there anything we can do to recapture the magic of 2001-2004? I'm afraid that we may become the new york yankees in that regard - they were never the same team after Rivera blew game 7 against the diamondbacks. Even if brady comes back next year, we still have glaring holes in the secondary. Not only that, the guys we drafted to replace asante samuel are midgets themselves. Chambers absolutely owned our CBs last night. Our oline is just a bunch of country boys that will be a year older next year. When I look back at what happened to the yankees and think about how something similar may happen to us, it absoltely makes me nauseous.
 
I suppose we can throw the 2008 season out the window. The question now becomes, is there anything we can do to recapture the magic of 2001-2004? I'm afraid that we may become the new york yankees in that regard - they were never the same team after Rivera blew game 7 against the diamondbacks. Even if brady comes back next year, we still have glaring holes in the secondary. Not only that, the guys we drafted to replace asante samuel are midgets themselves. Chambers absolutely owned our CBs last night. Our oline is just a bunch of country boys that will be a year older next year. When I look back at what happened to the yankees and think about how something similar may happen to us, it absoltely makes me nauseous.

For starters, you can try not sounding like a NY Yankees fan.......
 
We need to draft well. Hopefully next year we'll see good contributions from Mayo, Crable, Wheatley, Willhite and Guyton; we look like we'll have a #1 in the 12-20 range this year which is high for a quality team; we also have SD's #2 and will likely get a #3 for Samuel, if not certainly a #4. If last year's draft comes through and we follow through with a good draft this year with a extra picks, these drafts will need to be a big part of the next five years.
 
We need to draft well. Hopefully next year we'll see good contributions from Mayo, Crable, Wheatley, Willhite and Guyton; we look like we'll have a #1 in the 12-20 range this year which is high for a quality team; we also have SD's #2 and will likely get a #3 for Samuel, if not certainly a #4. If last year's draft comes through and we follow through with a good draft this year with a extra picks, these drafts will need to be a big part of the next five years.

i'm concerned that our DBs are too small. We need tall guys to go up against the bigger receivers in the league like plex. Do you think Malcolm jenkins will be available for us? Or is he top 5 talent?
 
If after 5 games you believe you can forget about the season, then just never watch football again until december/january. Change your expectations and then maybe winning will be fun again for you as a fan. Stop expecting and demanding perfection, and just go along with the ride, rooting for the team and hoping for the best. This team is never the same team in December as it was in September/October.
 
i'm concerned that our DBs are too small. We need tall guys to go up against the bigger receivers in the league like plex. Do you think Malcolm jenkins will be available for us? Or is he top 5 talent?
No way to tell on Jenkins, we don't know where we're drafting or who's coming out - I'd say unlikely right now unless we do worse than I expect. NFLDraftCountdown's top CB show a good amount of size :

Draft Countdown - 2009 NFL Draft | Cornerback Rankings

But, again, we have to see who's coming out.
 
i'm concerned that our DBs are too small. We need tall guys to go up against the bigger receivers in the league like plex. Do you think Malcolm jenkins will be available for us? Or is he top 5 talent?

Smaller faster DB's who play with good technique make plays. 'Sante was only 5'10". O'Neal is 5'11". The bigger corners can't run with WR's in man and lack the quickness to close on them or picks in zone. And you can't beat 'em up any more. The real problem is no pressure and no safety help, but that was a largely a design flaw in last nights defensive game plan. They were content to stop the run and TE receptions.
 
There is no similarity to the Yankees and I am offended that you would make the comparison. :mad:
 
I suppose we can throw the 2008 season out the window. The question now becomes, is there anything we can do to recapture the magic of 2001-2004? I'm afraid that we may become the new york yankees in that regard - they were never the same team after Rivera blew game 7 against the diamondbacks. Even if brady comes back next year, we still have glaring holes in the secondary. Not only that, the guys we drafted to replace asante samuel are midgets themselves. Chambers absolutely owned our CBs last night. Our oline is just a bunch of country boys that will be a year older next year. When I look back at what happened to the yankees and think about how something similar may happen to us, it absoltely makes me nauseous.

That’s ridiculous to compare a team with no salary cap limitations to a team in a league that must abide by the salary cap

Also Brian Cashman is an idiot that simply obtains the current best players in the open market throws them together and expects compatibility
 
That’s ridiculous to compare a team with no salary cap limitations to a team in a league that must abide by the salary cap

Also Brian Cashman is an idiot that simply obtains the current best players in the open market throws them together and expects compatibility


Cashman is far from an idiot. It's that overbearing Steinbrenner that demands stupid moves.
 
Cashman is far from an idiot. It's that overbearing Steinbrenner that demands stupid moves.

You give a decent GM 220 million to put together a team they should be able to lead you to the playoffs
 
You give a decent GM 220 million to put together a team they should be able to lead you to the playoffs


This isn't the place for it, but if it was all up to Cashman he wouldn't continue to trade away their farm.
 
I'm offended that you just compared the Pats to them.
 
What can we do to not become the New York Yankees?

Well, we could stop acting like we're entitled to championships.

[Of course, right now, the Pats, unlike the Yankees, (still) have to contend with a salary cap.]
 
poor Boston fans, only 6 championships this decade with very real possibilities of 2 more by June.

we are so put upon.
 
There is no similarity to the Yankees and I am offended that you would make the comparison. :mad:

i am not really comparing the pats situation to that of the yanks. but i am afraid that that comparison might have some merit in a few years. the point i am trying to make is that it is very tough to get the magic back that made your team successful. every great dynasty has magic for a little while and then it disappears. the packers, steelers and 49ers and cowboys were never able to get that magic back after their dynasties. i know the steelers won a few years ago but that was like 30 years after their dynasty ended. the niners won in 94 too i think.
 
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