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He's Tall, and has a Stong Arm...
 
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Cassel seems to have that deer in the headlights look far too often. I expect a QB to be signed or traded for this week.
I wouldn't bet my house on that if I were you.
 
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WOW we lost a game we have to change our QB. This is football you win some lose some! with the d playing like that i doubt rady could have won that game!

this is Cassels stats through 3 regular season games plus 4 preseason games. (*note: the three regular season games were against the mighty Kansas City Cheifs, New York Jets, and Miami Dolphins.)

67 comp / 106 att, 63.2%, 613 yards, 2 TD, 4 INT, 69.4 QB rating

yes i am counting the INT called back because of a bogus roughing the passer penalty, and the INT that went right through the Miami defenders hands, a gift from god.

Do you think its going to get better?? This is against the worst teams in the league!! Its unacceptable production. Slide down and make room on the bench.
 
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this is Cassels stats through 3 regular season games plus 4 preseason games. (*note: the three regular season games were against the mighty Kansas City Cheifs, New York Jets, and Miami Dolphins.)

67 comp / 106 att, 63.2%, 613 yards, 2 TD, 4 INT, 69.4 QB rating

yes i am counting the INT called back because of a bogus roughing the passer penalty, and the INT that went right through the Miami defenders hands, a gift from god.

Self-satire, always the best!
 
Come on Pat's fans ! We sucked today. Big time. I was there and I was shocked at how bad the defense played.
 
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Why don't we just drop all our D for a bunch of undrafted rookies? While we are at it we could maybe sack bb make you our coach and get your mock draft too.

In the last 3 years the team i play for were last in the league we play in then we were middle of the pack with a 4-6 record this year we made the bowl game loosing no games till the bowl game. Things change we changed our offensive system and done so much better our 3rd year. today the fins changed their o and it seemed to work for them.
 
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this is Cassels stats through 3 regular season games plus 4 preseason games. (*note: the three regular season games were against the mighty Kansas City Cheifs, New York Jets, and Miami Dolphins.)

67 comp / 106 att, 63.2%, 613 yards, 2 TD, 4 INT, 69.4 QB rating

yes i am counting the INT called back because of a bogus roughing the passer penalty, and the INT that went right through the Miami defenders hands, a gift from god.

Do you think its going to get better?? This is against the worst teams in the league!! Its unacceptable production. Slide down and make room on the bench.

But, you didn't count the bogus "in the grasp" call whihc woudl have given Cassel a rushing TD and eliminated a pick......slant the numbers so more there Briz so you can make your idiotic case??

I suppose in 2001 you also would have bebched Brady after his Miami game in favor of Huard??
 
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The thing that bothers me about Cassel is that he can lead us down to field goal terriotory, but can't really seem to finish the deal. I'm gonna stick by him, but O'Connel looked pretty good from what little I got to see of him. He has a cannon, which Cassel seems to lack. In BB I trust.
 
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But, you didn't count the bogus "in the grasp" call whihc woudl have given Cassel a rushing TD and eliminated a pick......slant the numbers so more there Briz so you can make your idiotic case??

I suppose in 2001 you also would have bebched Brady after his Miami game in favor of Huard??

that was a borderline call too but there was no telling if he would have scored or not, once the whistles blew the whole D stopped while Cassel was the only one running around.

Brady and Cassel are nothing alike. No i wouldnt have benched Brady.
 
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that was a borderline call too but there was no telling if he would have scored or not, once the whistles blew the whole D stopped while Cassel was the only one running around.

Brady and Cassel are nothing alike. No i wouldnt have benched Brady.



Take Cassel's stats after 2 starts and Brady's stats after 2 starts...

You cannot argue that you wouldn't have benched Brady but would Cassel. Just cut it out please.
 
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that was a borderline call too but there was no telling if he would have scored or not, once the whistles blew the whole D stopped while Cassel was the only one running around.

Brady and Cassel are nothing alike. No i wouldn't have benched Brady.

I am not saying Cassel will approach anything near TB.

In 2001 though, with your logic, your conclusions should lead you to the same place with the unknown, untested Brady as you reached with Cassel

For right now, let him learn and let;s see how good he can be. If they go 4-3 over the next seven games they'll be 6-4 with 6 to go and we'll be in position to make a run......that is reasonable and where I think we'll be, with Cassel. You need to give him a chance though as he is the best option we have. If you still trust in BB's judgement that is.
 
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I am not saying Cassel will approach anything near TB.

In 2001 though, with your logic, your conclusions should lead you to the same place with the unknown, untested Brady as you reached with Cassel

For right now, let him learn and let;s see how good he can be. If they go 4-3 over the next seven games they'll be 6-4 with 6 to go and we'll be in position to make a run......that is reasonable and where I think we'll be, with Cassel. You need to give him a chance though as he is the best option we have. If you still trust in BB's judgement that is.

i dont agree, make the change now, get Oconnel in there as soon as possible. There is no need to delay the inevitable. Oconnel could use as much experience as he can get before the playoffs roll around, the longer you keep Cassel in the less time you have to right the ship and establish some consistency.

Brady and Cassel situation is not the same, Brady had 1 year on the Pats when he took over when Bledsoe went down he was basically a rookie and we still didnt know what we had in him. Cassel has been here for 4 YEARS, ive seen all the preseason games hes played in, and the few regular season games, i know he is a SCRUB already.
 
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i dont agree, make the change now, get Oconnel in there as soon as possible.

Hey, BRiZ--do you happen to know what's the most likely way to completely #%@#% up the development of a rookie QB?
 
Chad Jackson would of made Cassel look good today Briz. :D

amen PD!

hows you do in fantasy? Freakin Average Joes has Ronnie Brown on his team he single handedly beat my whole squad! loool
 
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i dont agree, make the change now, get Oconnel in there as soon as possible. There is no need to delay the inevitable. Oconnel could use as much experience as he can get before the playoffs roll around, the longer you keep Cassel in the less time you have to right the ship and establish some consistency.

Brady and Cassel situation is not the same, Brady had 1 year on the Pats when he took over when Bledsoe went down he was basically a rookie and we still didnt know what we had in him. Cassel has been here for 4 YEARS, ive seen all the preseason games hes played in, and the few regular season games, i know he is a SCRUB already.

Sigh.....guess you know more than Bill Belichick and Scott Pioli then.

By the way, do you see these games on TV or in person?? We all know how easy it is to scout and manage from behind the TV screen.
 
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Hey, BRiZ--do you happen to know what's the most likely way to completely #%@#% up the development of a rookie QB?

who cares! Brady is gunna be back next year, its just a one year patch, Oconnel if hes gunna be the backup could use the experience to backup Brady next year. We are gunna lose with Cassel anyways.
 
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who cares! Brady is gunna be back next year, its just a one year patch, Oconnel if hes gunna be the backup could use the experience to backup Brady next year. We are gunna lose with Cassel anyways.

The best way to screw up a rookie QB's development is to start him too soon.
 
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If he sucks that badly he will sit on FA and the pats could pick him back up. And bb and Pioli knew what they had in Brady they were gonna draft him higher but didn't think he would go cause he was a fairly unknown entity. on top ten on draft steals Pioli stated that. They trusted him then there must be a reason why bb thinks Cassel is better to start atm.
 
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