Pats doing well will "tarnish Brady's legacy"?

[chrisfx811]

It's not surprising that this popped up. In fact many here on this board predicted this last week. If the Pats did well, Brady becomes a system QB, and if the Pats did poorly, then BB is an average coach.

Since we all know the media loves to hate the Pats, I agree that they want to cover all their angles so they don't have to report anything positive about the Pats in 2008.

The 2007 evil patriots were a cash cow.

 

[PonyExpress]

As Peter King waddles through the streets of Manhattan today, I hope a pigeon $hi#s on his head.

 

[bob85ne]

Peter King has probably changed his opinion at least 3 times since he wrote that.

How anything that happens can harm Brady's legacy is beyond me.

 

[bitsygirl]

I don't think anyone is DUMB on this subject.
We are all passionate about Tom and his legacy, which is why King gets to us.

King is just a pain in the ass.
Last year he wouldn't drop questioning BB. He just likes to hear himself talk ,or write? It's his way of making himself feel "smart".

 

[O.Z.O.]

Let's wait until Cassel engineers a last minute Superbowl win over

the Cowboys before we discuss this subject.

yeah, right...

 

[NEPatriot]

Brady's legacy will always be there. Having him in the team will make everybody think twice about playing with us.

 

[elandadem]

Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. I am presently surprised by Cassel's performance thus far, but let's keep it in perspective. He beat the Chiefs and the Jets - not exactly the cream of the NFL crop.

He should be able to engineer a win over the Dolphins but they had his number last year and that has got to be rattling around in the back of his mind. Furthermore, I believe that his performance has been aided by a lack of film. It is harder to prep for an unknown QB that it is for one for whom there is a plethora of film.

Personally, I have felt that he was retained because he is incredibly intelligent. I suspect still that he lacks the talent to be an NFL QB; admittedly that remains to be seen. If he continues to perform at a reasonable (not a Bradyesque - no QB has matched his talent or potential thus far) level, I will most certainly amend my opinion.

Tarnishing Brady's Legacy? Only Brady could do that and I can't imagine that ever taking place. I'm just content for the Patriots to fly under the radar, in the middle of the pack for season. January and February are the months to shine.

 

[NEPatriot]

The media always has negative spins on Pats. Pats would loose without Tom and pats would make it without Tom but his legacy is gone. WTF.

It doesn't matter what we do, we are screwed.

 

[NEPatriot]

Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. I am presently surprised by Cassel's performance thus far, but let's keep it in perspective. He beat the Chiefs and the Jets - not exactly the cream of the NFL crop.

Second week of Nov is the most important week because we will know if we are 16-0 team again in this season.

 

[PATSNUTme]

Thank you, everyone in this forum is now dumber because of that comment, you are awarded no points

That post was done with sarcasm. How do I know that? I'm the king of sarcasm.

 

[Krugman]

That is drivel,pure and simple.Lets not waste any more time on it....

 

[aluminum seats]

By the way, what's up with the thread rating system? I'm kind of annoyed with this random one star thing.

For what it's worth, I thought (and think) that a discussion of the skewed perspective of arguably the highest-profile football writer--reflecting, I'm sure, the take of many of similar-minded morons--was interesting as it relates to the Patriots, and how qbs/coaches/teams are viewed. I think this even though I realize there are a lot of media threads, which I noted in my op. So the little rating thing, to me, seems pissy.

 

[spacecrime]

This is stupid to even bring this up

Agree. Why do we care what some who writes to Peter King thinks?

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

When all is said and done, Brady will be looked at as one of the greatest. If the team does well, as it should, we know it would have done far better with Brady.

That being said, IF Cassel takes this team to a super bowl win it is going to take away from the Brady legacy. Tarnish is a strong word, but take those Brady-Manning arguments into consideration where Manning fans said you can insert any decent QB into our system and they could lead this team to a Super Bowl, like it or not they will have been proven right. It doesn't matter if he wins it with all 17-14 victories, we used the winning argument for years against Manning. You could point out that the '01-'04 Pats did not have Randy Moss but still winning a Super Bowl is no easy feat just look at last season.

In the end I could care less about all this. I want this team to go down as the best dynasty ever, I could care less about individual player arguments. We all know Brady is one of the greatest regardless.

 

[PatsFan24]

I hate to start another media thread, but this gets to something so fundamentally idiotic I couldn't resist. Some moron writes to Peter King about how if the Pats win the Super Bowl this year it will hurt Brady's "legacy" which King actually agrees with.

Sigh.

This is the same line of thinking that had the dopes pulling out Belichick's coaching record without Brady, suggesting his success came solely from Brady. It creates a real nice situation for them this year, in that they'll be able to either disparage Brady or Belichick depending on how the Pats do. This is almost painfully stupid. Here's the thing.....winning Super Bowls is hard. Doing the things that Brady has done is absolutely remarkable. Developing a dynasty like Belichick (and Pioli) has done is extraordinary.

This team may be able to win it with Cassel--either because the complete team will be able to do it with simply decent qb play, or he'll be something special as well, or whatever. But the brilliance of Brady and Belichick isn't something that depends on anything this year--it's already been categorically established. Is that so hard to understand?

i was expecting espn to run with this story

 

[NJPatsfan26]

i was expecting espn to run with this story

Well we can all be thankful they havent.....damn them all!!

 

[swheeler23]

The patriots are able to win because the players around Cassel. Brady took over a team in 2001 that won 5 games the year before. Big difference.I knew this **** was coming. Anyone who thinks this is stupid.

 

[FilPats]

This kind of sh*t is stupid.
Its very simple:
BB + Brady + everyone else on the pats = awesome and everyone constantly whining about running up the score
BB + Cassel + everyone else on the pats = good enough for a playoff run, maybe a superbowl

Plus Mayo, healthy Seymour, improved Meriweather, AT, :singing:etc. equals much better defense. Go Pats

 

[dhamz]

If Steve Young's success after Joe Montana get hurt didn't tarnish Montana's legacy for being one of the greatest QB ever, then Tom Brady's shouldn't either, but of course, lots haters out there will think so.

Better comparison:

In 1991 Joe Montana was hurt and missed the season. Steve Young stepped in and led the team to a 5-5 record in 10 starts but also couldn't stay healthy.

The immortal Steve Bono stepped in for the injured Montana and Young and led the team to a 5-1 record.

Clearly this tarnishes the legacy of both Montana and Young.

 

[DefenseRules]

Nothing Matt Cassel does will tarnish what Brady has accomplished in this league, or, for this team over the last seven years. If we get to the Super Bowl with Cassel leading the way, I will be happy and Brady will be standing on the sidelines, (if he can), cheering Matt and the team on. There is no debate here, IMO. Tom Brady is a Hall of Fame QB, but he can't help us on the field right now. This is Cassel's ship to run for the season, and I intend to sit back and enjoy each game.
There are some silly people out there.