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would you hold on to him as the successor to Brady or would you trade him in the off-season? If he succeeds this year, as I said, what type of trade value could we get for him?

Your thoughts.
 
Thoughts are he is a free agent.

and he is leading us to the SB not just the playoffs
 
If Cassel sniffs the playoffs, he'll get a big offer from some team. I doubt he would stay to be a backup.
 
If Cassel sniffs the playoffs, he'll get a big offer from some team. I doubt he would stay to be a backup.

Just sniffs?

If he can't make the playoffs with the supporting cast around him I don't know why any other team would think he'd do any better in their system.
 
Just sniffs?

If he can't make the playoffs with the supporting cast around him I don't know why any other team would think he'd do any better in their system.

Did you see any of the Chiefs game yesterday? How about the Vikings game? With the way QBs have been dropping every week, Cassel would get an offer somewhere.
 
Did you see any of the Chiefs game yesterday? How about the Vikings game? With the way QBs have been dropping every week, Cassel would get an offer somewhere.

An offer sure, but big?

Of course I agree he'll be going somewhere, but I don't see some big deal happening unless he can at the least take this team to the playoffs.
 
If the Pats win the Superbowl with Cassel I say we all storm the league offices in New York and demand they rename the Vince Lombardi trophy the Bill Belichick trophy.
 
HE IS AN UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENT!

They cannot trade him. Cassel Is gone at the end of the season.
 
lol...

Brady has like id imagine 6-8 years left...u want to hold cassel that long?

i think cassel will be a good QB, but not he likes of Brady...hence we will let cassel move on....

(hopefully hes smart enough to go to the NFC, or at least leave the AFC EAST)
 
HE IS AN UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENT!

They cannot trade him. Cassel Is gone at the end of the season.

what they can do is either transition tag him (1st and a 3rd rounder) or franchise tag him (2 1st rounders)

Id put my money on the transition tag if he makes it deep into the playoffs and ends up with 25+ TDs. The browns did that to anderson last year and if you remember they had to scramble to get him signed last minute because at least 3 teams were beating down the browns door with 1st and 3 round pick offers

thats a coup for belichick
 
Technically we could franchise him and then trade him right? Only problem is I wonder if anyone would want to pay him top 5 QB money.

If I were them I'd resign him right now and then trade him for a 1st round pick next year after we win the SB.

Yes I just said that.
 
That pats will offer him 2nd QB money. They already have O'C waiting to play so losing Cassel won't be the end of the world. He deserves a big contract if he can take the Pats that far. It'll be like every other Pats player that developed through the ranks then ran off for that big deal at the end.
 
If he has a good year and takes the team to the playoff and Wins the Super Bowl, Matt will be a started for another team year next year.
 
Technically we could franchise him and then trade him right? Only problem is I wonder if anyone would want to pay him top 5 QB money.
If we Franchise him and he's had a really good season and is looking for a long term deal then we're set because he would likely wait on signing the franchise deal and we could trade him.

The more likely scenario is he's had a decent season. Maybe similar to Brady in 2001 had we lost to the Raiders in the playoffs. Interesting upside but not actually a top QB yet. Then it's more tricky because he would jump on the Franchise contract most likely and it's guaranteed. Then we'd have to find a team willing to trade for him either with the one year contract or with a pre-agreed to multi year deal.

If he has proved capable it's very likely we could find a trading partner. Whether we get a #1 or a #5 would depend on how he does and he still has a lot of proving to do. But we're in a solid situation, Belioli will likely have a good idea (maybe even an unofficial offer) if he's had a good enough year to trade. If he hasn't, we don't franchise him and he leaves as a UFA. If he has, we Franchise him and trade him.
 
franchise and then trade him.

brady still has 4 or so years left and more if he wants since he relys on things other then a canon arm, so i dont think the successor to brady is even in the nfl at this point.

if he goes to the playoffs, which he should, then there will be someone out there willing to buy high.
 
Ok, the thing is, if Cassel somehow catches fire and goes to the SB...

Yikes. Well, by then it would be off to free agency.

However, if we resigned him say, during the week off and he won the SB, I believe starting QB would be an open competition and if he beats Brady, he gets traded. Super unlikely, but stranger things have happened. If a QB who's 5 years younger can beat him, he's gone. It's just business, not sentimentality.

That said, I'd be shocked. I think Matt could do well here and go to a GOOD team needing a starter. So... not the Jets.
 
Ok, the thing is, if Cassel somehow catches fire and goes to the SB...

Yikes. Well, by then it would be off to free agency.

However, if we resigned him say, during the week off and he won the SB, I believe starting QB would be an open competition and if he beats Brady, Tom gets traded. Super unlikely, but stranger things have happened. If a QB who's 5 years younger can beat him, he's gone. It's just business, not sentimentality.

That said, I'd be shocked. I think Matt could do well here and go to a GOOD team needing a starter. So... not the Jets.
 
That pats will offer him 2nd QB money. They already have O'C waiting to play so losing Cassel won't be the end of the world. He deserves a big contract if he can take the Pats that far. It'll be like every other Pats player that developed through the ranks then ran off for that big deal at the end.

No, he wouldn't be leaving for the "Big Deal" - he'll be leaving for the chance to start.

How could you make a negative out of that? The Pats won't offer him 2nd QB money if they make the playoffs - hell they won't even make him an offer, they will simply wish him good luck in his new starting job.
 
I don't think they would franchise him. I think it would be tough to work that. Teams would know we don't intend on keeping him at that price. Its possible, but I think it would be tough to work it. If they could, then it would great. IMO, he will walk via FA and start somewhere next year - unless these past two games were an anomaly.
 
This thread is pretty funny. If if if if if . He has started one game and didn't mess up. Now people already have him "leading" us to the Super Bowl and trying to decide what to do with him IF he does.

I say that's pretty unlikely. I say its most likely he will show himself to be a decent backup - a Damon Huard or Brian Griese, at best. I say the chances of him being in Tom Brady's class are somewhere between 0 and 0.001%. Could it happen? Sure. But I just think we should all wait a few more games before we fit him for a bust in Canton, to quote a certain fat guy we all used to know and love.
 
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