What's the story with Maroney

[PatsFan24]

we did all this same talk a year ago and everyone who spoke out against him was proven wrong come playoff time

 

[Patslifer]

we did all this same talk a year ago and everyone who spoke out against him was proven wrong come playoff time

Not really.... Maroney needs to be a consistant runner to prove everyone wrong. Great he had a good run in the playoffs, we need him all year.

 

[PATRIOT64]

we did all this same talk a year ago and everyone who spoke out against him was proven wrong come playoff time

He did well in the early part of the playoffs but in the biggest game was invisible when needed so lets stop the 'he was good in the playoffs' thing - in the biggest game of the year he sucked when he could have been a difference maker since Brady was getting squashed by the front 7

14 rushes for 36 yards and a 2.6 average yardage per run in the Super Bowl does not help your team - Of course we will get the OL line did not help him reasoning and is expected by those that like him more than others

 

[sebman2112]

This is a fair and balanced analysis. I would add only that he takes an inordinate number of hits 2-3 yards in the backfield, frequently the result of run blitzes by lb's and corners. Not sure why this happens so much to him. Perhaps there is more of a run tendency when he is in the backfield.

I tried to explain this to some casual fans last year, but NE has a tendency to run the ball when Maroney's on the field, especially during the first half of the season. I'm sure opposing defenses have noticed this which is why you'll notice more run blitzes when he's in the game. The good thing is that it sets up play action passing, and as the season goes alone NE will use the tendencies they've shown on offense to set up the defenses they face. For example, later this season (and if they make the playoffs) you'll notice Maroney being used on screens, and in the game more often when NE passes the ball. This is what they did down the stretch in 2007, and it worked out pretty well.

 

[Patdown93]

Morris had 8 att for 0 yards. The Jets just defended the run very well most of the game. For the majority of three quarters Morris and Maroney were running for 2 or 3 yards a pop. There were only 2 runs of 5 yards or more before Jordan showed up.

 

[BPF]

Re: Whats the story with Maroney

Laurence Maroney, on the vast majority of his carries, get creamed in the backfield and suffered from horrendous run-blocking. I don't think it's a big deal, but I expect the sky-is-falling crowd will vociferously agree and go nuts on this thread.

I like the kid but part of getting creamed in the backfield in his problem as well. I'm tired of everyone blaming the O-line, Jordan looked good working behing that O-line regradless of when in the game it was or if the Jets D was worn out and some will suggest. Jordan and the O-line closed out the game and did a nice job.

 

[BPF]

I tried to explain this to some casual fans last year, but NE has a tendency to run the ball when Maroney's on the field, especially during the first half of the season. I'm sure opposing defenses have noticed this which is why you'll notice more run blitzes when he's in the game. The good thing is that it sets up play action passing, and as the season goes alone NE will use the tendencies they've shown on offense to set up the defenses they face. For example, later this season (and if they make the playoffs) you'll notice Maroney being used on screens, and in the game more often when NE passes the ball. This is what they did down the stretch in 2007, and it worked out pretty well.

I have to agree with this, it is a tendency, and you make good points for what the Pats can do to throw off teams in the 2nd half based on their own this tendency as well.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Whats the story with Maroney

Jordan didn't make his first run until there was only 4:49 left in the 3rd quarter, according to the CBSSports.com play-by-play. By that time, Jenkins was already gassed. Early on in the game, both Maroney and Morris dealt with that fresh R-A-T-S D-Line. Not surprisingly, their numbers don't look as impressive as Jordan's.

This is yet another case of the same group of people finding something to piss and moan about every time less than 100% perfection is achieved.

 

[Schmo]

I thought I remember an article last offseason talking about Maroney working on his lean. From what I've seen this year, it looks like he gave up on it. Anybody seen differently?

 

[Patslifer]

Re: Whats the story with Maroney

Jordan didn't make his first run until there was only 4:49 left in the 3rd quarter, according to the CBSSports.com play-by-play. By that time, Jenkins was already gassed. Early on in the game, both Maroney and Morris dealt with that fresh R-A-T-S D-Line. Not surprisingly, their numbers don't look as impressive as Jordan's.

This is yet another case of the same group of people finding something to piss and moan about every time less than 100% perfection is achieved.

Or having a discussion. If you are to much of a homer, then stay out of the thread. People have the right to talk about whatever they want, good or bad.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Whats the story with Maroney

Or having a discussion. If you are to much of a homer, then stay out of the thread. People have the right to talk about whatever they want, good or bad.

Thanks for making my point. Last week, Maroney averaged over 5 yards per carry. This week, the bleaters are already out. Week 2, Cassel's first start, a team focusing on stopping the run with a huge nose tackle who's a tremendous player until he gets tired, and you sheep are already at it.

 

[Patslifer]

Re: Whats the story with Maroney

Thanks for making my point. Last week, Maroney averaged over 5 yards per carry. This week, the bleaters are already out. Week 2, Cassel's first start, a team focusing on stopping the run with a huge nose tackle who's a tremendous player until he gets tired, and you sheep are already at it.

Thanks for making mine. You come into every thread that calls out a player, and you pull the same song and dance. It gets old. We get it.

Instead of insulting people as a group, let them debate for crying out loud. Maybe they want to went about Maroney, or they don't like him as a player. They have every right to make a post about the issue.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Whats the story with Maroney

Thanks for making mine. You come into every thread that calls out a player, and you pull the same song and dance. It gets old. We get it.

Instead of insulting people as a group, let them debate for crying out loud. Maybe they want to went about Maroney, or they don't like him as a player. They have every right to make a post about the issue.

And I have every right to point out that they are talking out of their collective asses.

 

[Patslifer]

Re: Whats the story with Maroney

And I have every right to point out that they are talking out of their collective asses.

But you dont have a right to insult them. You did the same thing in the Jackson threads. You tried to defend him....made excuses for him. He was a bust man.

People have the right to talk about the fact that Maroney has more dance moves than a salsa dancer.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Whats the story with Maroney

But you dont have a right to insult them. You did the same thing in the Jackson threads. You tried to defend him....made excuses for him. He was a bust man.

People have the right to talk about the fact that Maroney has more dance moves than a salsa dancer.

Dude, I know that you're one of the leaders of the Chicken Little movement, but pretend to be rational. You are whining after ONE GAME. And calling people who do that bleaters is an insult to sheep, who are only doing what they were bred to do.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: Whats the story with Maroney

Maroney is the team's #1 RB, he forced the Jesters to respect the run. After he left the game with a reported shoulder injury the Pats did not score again until Meriweather's pick gave them great field position. Maroney was pounding it inside, he wasn't bouncing it outside or dancing. I expect Unoriginal will have an analysis of the blocking and point out a variety of occasions where the Jester's penetrated to upset the run.

 

[Wildo7]

Re: Whats the story with Maroney

I thought the playcalling was very predictable at the beginning of the game. You could see them running a mile away. I don't know that Maroney is necessarily better than Jordan or vice versa, but I don't think that people who are saying Maroney is definitely the guy have seen anything to definitively say that or have any reason to rule Jordan out.

Not that I really care, but just out of curiosity, why did someone give me a bad rep on this comment and type "you can dish it out but can you take it?"

 

[smg93]

it seems to this unprofessionally trained eye that guys like Jordan see one hole and attack it as soon as they get the ball. Maroney seems stuck trying to choose a hole, which slows him down and holes seem to close when he finally makes up his mind.

I've seen a lot of backs whose big runs were created because they went through the first hole they saw and every once in a while they broke through to the secondary. Maroney to me seems like he is constantly looking for a hole that has complete daylight before deciding to run upfield. Unfortunately by the time he's made up his mind, he's got nowhere to go.