PATs Red zone: 1 for 5 - anyone concerned?

[JR4]

It is good enough to beat most of the teams on the schedule, but not Colts, Steelers and Chargers. So if we go 13-3 and can turn improve the red zone offense by JANUARY, we should be okay.

Don't forget Denver, Seahawks and Bills x 2.
Yes the Bills they beat Jags today. Bills are for real and if PATs have red
zone production like today the Bills will win.
If PATs lose these games plus the ones you mentioned they will be
playing golf in January.
Red zone offense needs to get fixed and fast. IMO.

 

[PATRIOT64]

When the team starts having TURNOVERS in the red zone then its time to worry - As long as the defense stands thier ground it won't be an issue to be concerned with.

 

[Horace's Ivories]

as much as I dislike the Jets and I'm probably in the minority to think that the jets are actually pretty good. This is certainly not your grandma's jets. so, that being said, this win is a very good win, on the road, against a fired up team. So i dont buy wait until they play good teams.. jets are a good team and will be good this year.

 

[patsox23]

We were 5-for-5 in the red zone, I believe. I'll take it. I expect we'll convert one or two of those trips for TDs as the team coheres around Cassel.

 

[Seneschal2]

You can be sure BB and Mcdaniels were not happy with the production down there and it will be a big topic in meetings and film study in the next couple days.

They'll be experimenting to find the correct goal line packages. Jordan may be best suited down there in such a congested area. I think BB and the OC will find ways to get him more touches.

In addition, Watson will be returning sooner rather then later, giving Cassel a much needed large target and valuable option.

And ultimately, Moss and Cassel will be working on their chemistry. Not just in the RZ, but between the twenties as well. Rest assured, BB & Co. won't waste Moss' talent simply because Brady is unavailable. Lots of practice reps are in order.

 

[ClevTrev]

We were 5-for-5 in the red zone, I believe. I'll take it. I expect we'll convert one or two of those trips for TDs as the team coheres around Cassel.

Exactly. With the game plan in mind, it was obvious the Pats were convinced that any points coming out of the Red Zone were better than no points. A conservative game plan enabled Cassel's success and maintained possession resulting in points. The way the defense was playing and Gostkowski was kicking, ball control and the short passing game were just what was needed today.

It will evolve as Cassel and the team get more games under their belts.

No worries.

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Don't forget Denver, Seahawks and Bills x 2.
Yes the Bills they beat Jags today. Bills are for real and if PATs have red
zone production like today the Bills will win.
If PATs lose these games plus the ones you mentioned they will be
playing golf in January.
Red zone offense needs to get fixed and fast. IMO.

It needs to steadily improve. It doesn't need "to get fixed and fast." And if they lose all the ones I mentioned plus Denver, the seahawks and split the Bills they go 10-6. That means no golf the first week of January.

 

[JR4]

It needs to steadily improve. It doesn't need "to get fixed and fast." And if they lose all the ones I mentioned plus Denver, the seahawks and split the Bills they go 10-6. That means no golf the first week of January.

Wrong. Bad attitude. IMO. If Bills keep playing the way they have they
will win the AFCE with 12 or more wins. They just played two of the
toughest teams on their schedule and won!

If PATs do not have a sense of urgency to fix this red zone problem they
could be looking at 3 losses by the time they meet the Bills and the Bills
may have only 1 loss at that time.
The one advantage PATs have is Miami and a Bye week. When they hit
the 9ers after the bye that Red Zone offense needs be a lot better.
Some of the better teams are like 60% to 70% efficient in the Red zone.
Denver is like over 80% i think. Bills are very good in the Red zone.
I am sure BB will stress it but he needs the players to execute
correctly in the Red Zone.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

The one play in particular that I remember is a pass to Thomas in the EZ in the 4th quarter. Cassel waited for him to be open instead of throwing it to where he was supposed to be. The pass was deflected by a Lb'er I believe. It is plays like that, timing plays, that will come.

Overall, I was imprssed with Cassel's start. Other than the "deer in the headlights" series he had after hurting his knee, he seemed to be comfortable. The Jets did their best to take Moss out of the game, but the others stepped up.

He may not have "read" Thomas getting open that easily, but he certainly didn't appear to hesitate when he spotted him. It was a great play by Pace to get that 6'5" extra-long wing out to tip the ball.

 

[JoePats]

As others have noted, they did score points all five trips. I thought the playcalling on a couple of those trips was a little conservative, more early than late. They'll open it up a bit as Cassel gets more comfortable.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Wrong. Bad attitude. IMO. If Bills keep playing the way they have they
will win the AFCE with 12 or more wins. They just played two of the
toughest teams on their schedule and won!

If PATs do not have a sense of urgency to fix this red zone problem they
could be looking at 3 losses by the time they meet the Bills and the Bills
may have only 1 loss at that time.
The one advantage PATs have is Miami and a Bye week. When they hit
the 9ers after the bye that Red Zone offense needs be a lot better.
Some of the better teams are like 60% to 70% efficient in the Red zone.
Denver is like over 80% i think. Bills are very good in the Red zone.
I am sure BB will stress it but he needs the players to execute
correctly in the Red Zone.

Yes the Bills are playing well and look good, but:
- Seattle is a "damaged" team trying to find an effective run game and losing WRs left and right. They also are a notoriously shaky road team.
- Jacksonville is a "damaged" team who lost 4 of the 9 OL they kept to start the season and uses Matt Jones as their #1 WR. Despite that advantage, Buffalo won by four points.

The schedule and Tommy going out in the 1st quarter of the 1st game is working to the Pats advantage to "develop" Matt slowly without asking him to carry the team. So far, so good. Buffalo is a bridge to be crossed later...after all, how many pundits wrote the Jester's victory headlines before the game?

 

[SammyBlueCat]

I think we'll get that fixed. But remember we need some games under Cassell's belt. I hope they are all wins, but after this, confidence builds up for him. Miami should be a next challenge, but our Defense should take care of them and have Cassell sorta "erector set" his confidence.

True. Consider this offense a work in progress.