The ultimate insult to Tom Brady

[fumbrunner]

One last comment here: How on earth would Brady be insulted to see a guy he's been mentoring and will continue to be mentoring succeed?

He just simply wouldn't be insulted by Patriots fans hoping Matt rocks the field.

What I am saying is to say that Cassel can somehow duplicate what Brady has done over the past decade belittles all of what Brady has done. Not that he would be insulted himself. Obviously he wants the team to succeed.

 

[richpats]

You guys make it sound like Brady's achievements are so easily achieved. Like I said, lets wait a few games before making him the next coming of Brady.

Why don't you just come back next fall when the Pats are good enough for you, ok?

NOBODY IS SAYING HE IS THE NEXT TOM BRADY. He has the potential to win some football games this year, and maybe get us into the playoffs. How many other QB's in the league have led a team to the playoffs? 20? And how many other QB's in the league have won playoff games? 15? And how many have won a SB? 5-6?

Winning isn't Tom Brady's exclusive right. He is very good at it but please don't forget that even inferior QB's have won it all.

 

[swheeler23]

And I don't disagree with that. I just disagree with writing off his potential.

He's 1-0. Good start, imo.

I hope Cassell helps the Patriots win.My problem with comparing the two really has nothing to do with cassell . It has to do with Bradys achievements. I just do not like everyone thinking Cassell is like or could be like Brady in 2001.It is not the same situation. Brady was not replacing a guy that was the mvp the prior year.

 

[fumbrunner]

Why don't you just come back next fall when the Pats are good enough for you, ok?

NOBODY IS SAYING HE IS THE NEXT TOM BRADY. He has the potential to win some football games this year, and maybe get us into the playoffs. How many other QB's in the league have led a team to the playoffs? 20? And how many other QB's in the league have won playoff games? 15? And how many have won a SB? 5-6?

Winning isn't Tom Brady's exclusive right. He is very good at it but please don't forget that even inferior QB's have won it all.

No, some are arguing that given the chance, Cassel will be the next Brady. That is was is so ridiculous. Certainly guys like emoney and the ilk have insinuated that

 

[emoney_33]

...and I'm sure Bledsoe would have led them to the Superbowl if he had not gotten hurt...and the second......and the third.

No one ever compared Cassel to the 2003 and beyond Brady, so the "second...and the third" crap is just that... crap.

I was never a huge Bledsoe fan, but you do NOT know for a fact we wouldn't have won with him. You also do know that Brady could have stayed the same QB he was in 2001 for the rest of his career and 2001 would still not be changed. If Brady didn't TURN INTO a HOF QB you people wouldn't be upset about the 2001 comments. SINCE he turned into a HOF QB you take exception.

When people are "comparing" Cassel to the 2001 Brady they are simply saying that Cassel does not have to be an amazing QB as it is POSSIBLE to win the superbowl with teamwork, 53 guys working together doing their job, period.

Honest to goodness, you people forget 2001? You forget the entire TEAM f'ing concept? You talking like Brady single handedly won the superbowl in 2001 is disrespecting BB, Weis, Crennel, all the coaches, and the 52 other players including Law, Milloy, Seymour, Troy, Bruschi, McGinest etc.. etc.. etc..

 

[PATRIOT64]

WTF is it with you people over exaggerating the QB position? The 2001 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS won the f'ing superbowl, not Tom fricking Brady.

Tom Brady wasn't out there slapping Marshall Faulk in the face. He wasn't out there stopping Edge on a goalline stance. Seriously, WTF. Get a grip and get some damn perspective.

Tom Brady brings this team from great to potentially greatest ever, he doesn't bring it from average/below-average to potentially greatest ever. So sick of you Cassel haters and forever pessimists exaggerating EVERYTHING.

Naive we are so naive

Was it just a COINCIDENCE that the Bledsoe led Patriots were 0-2 to start the 2001 season and were beaten pretty good in those 2 games,not so on the socreboard but nevertheless they were beaten down - Was it just a coinsidence that BBs 41-56 record started getting much better when Brady suddenly started?

Did BB suddenly become a legendary coach at the same time Brady started his first game? - Hmmmm

Was it a coinsidence that Troy Brown truly became the star that year that nobody really noticed before?

Don't get me wrong,BB is a great coach and better than most in the league but he must prove to all that he is the best ever by winning with a scrub QB - plain and simple

 

[emoney_33]

What I am saying is to say that Cassel can somehow duplicate what Brady has done over the past decade belittles all of what Brady has done. Not that he would be insulted himself. Obviously he wants the team to succeed.

Who the hell ever suggested Cassel will duplicate what Brady has done this decade? Seriously, WHO? Don't change your argument now.

 

[richpats]

No, some are arguing that given the chance, Cassel will be the next Brady. That is was is so ridiculous. Certainly guys like emoney and the ilk have insinuated that

First off, if anyone is saying Cassel is the next Brady then it can only mean Cassel '08 is the next Brady '01. Cassel is not starting for NE after this year. Cassel won't start another 7 seasons. If you interpret someone's comments to mean a full career like Brady's then you are sadly mistaken.

 

[emoney_33]

No, some are arguing that given the chance, Cassel will be the next Brady. That is was is so ridiculous. Certainly guys like emoney and the ilk have insinuated that

Yea I have definitely insinuated that... Do you struggle with comprehension or is this just an overprotection of Brady issue?

 

[spacecrime]

what happened when Bledsoe got hurt is a once in a lifetime story where possibly the best QB of all time began his career and led a mediocre team to the SB

Once in a lifetime? THe exact same thing happened two years earlier when Trent Green got hurt and Kurt Warner replaced him.

The NFL is full of stories of backup QBs who were given a chance and far exceeded everyone's expectations.

As far a mediocre team goes, defense and special teams had quite a bit to do with that year.

 

[swheeler23]

Is this years defense good enough? I guess we will find out. The first few games are cake walks. I still think the Patriots will go 12-4,they have a very week schedule. The defense will be the reason this team goes deep into the playoffs or wins the super Bowl.

 

[PATRIOT64]

WTF is it with you people over exaggerating the QB position? The 2001 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS won the f'ing superbowl, not Tom fricking Brady.

Tom Brady wasn't out there slapping Marshall Faulk in the face. He wasn't out there stopping Edge on a goalline stance. Seriously, WTF. Get a grip and get some damn perspective.

Tom Brady brings this team from great to potentially greatest ever, he doesn't bring it from average/below-average to potentially greatest ever. So sick of you Cassel haters and forever pessimists exaggerating EVERYTHING.

More hypocrite BS from homers

DID I MISS SOMETHING OR WAS CASSEL NOT ON THE FU(KING FIELD WHEN NE STOPPED KC INSIDE THE 5 - SO NOW YOU GIVE MATT CREDIT FOR BEING 1-0 ?

Get your facts straight before spewing garbage that goes one way..

 

[PATRIOT64]

Why don't you just come back next fall when the Pats are good enough for you, ok?

NOBODY IS SAYING HE IS THE NEXT TOM BRADY. He has the potential to win some football games this year, and maybe get us into the playoffs. How many other QB's in the league have led a team to the playoffs? 20? And how many other QB's in the league have won playoff games? 15? And how many have won a SB? 5-6?

Winning isn't Tom Brady's exclusive right. He is very good at it but please don't forget that even inferior QB's have won it all.

He is just saying that some of you clowns need to keep 2001 season out of conversations - It was a miraculous year and magical at that

The defense and RBs will make this year miraculous and magical if it happens to be,In 2008 Cassel is a musician who needs to blend in with the orchestra - In 2001 Brady was the conductor

 

[emoney_33]

More hypocrite BS from homers

DID I MISS SOMETHING OR WAS CASSEL NOT ON THE FU(KING FIELD WHEN NE STOPPED KC INSIDE THE 5?

Get your facts straight before spewing garbage that goes one way..

Are you that dense?

I never said Cassel single handedly won the KC game, nor did I ******* ever say I think Cassel will or even should single handedly win games for us. It's a team game, the TEAM will win or lose as a team. Some people will have larger or smaller effects on that, but no one player is ever directly responsible for a win or a loss.

Get my facts straight? YOU are the one overvaluing the QB position to an extreme... NOT ME

 

[emoney_33]

He is just saying that some of you clowns need to keep 2001 season out of conversations - It was a miraculous year and magical at that

The defense and RBs will make this year miraculous and magical if it happens to be,In 2008 Cassel is a musician who needs to blend in with the orchestra - In 2001 Brady was the conductor

Get off the forums and go re-watch the 2001 season in its entirety and watch Brady's struggles and growth throughout 2001.

If the 2001 Brady was playing in 2007, this board would be filled with posts demanding to trade or release him. I GUARANTEE THAT.

Also you have no idea how important Cassel will be in our wins if we have a successful season as expected. Don't try to act like you know how good Cassel is or can become because you have NO clue. Not even the patriots coaches have a great clue of how good he will be or become. Nor did they exactly know how much Brady would grow. They just see the intangibles and the potential and work from there.

 

[PATRIOT64]

First off, if anyone is saying Cassel is the next Brady then it can only mean Cassel '08 is the next Brady '01. Cassel is not starting for NE after this year. Cassel won't start another 7 seasons. If you interpret someone's comments to mean a full career like Brady's then you are sadly mistaken.

Cassel's success this season means 2 things...

He becomes what Asante was in 2007 a very highly sought after FA because he took NE deep into the playoffs or SB

OR

He becomes a guy that is picked up by a team desperate for a 4th QB or is out of the league

Its going to be one of those 2 ways - Regardless of what he does,It is almost a sure thing that NE will not pick up his contract once the season is done - O'Connel probably gets the #2 next season unless Brady for some reason is not ready too soon.

 

[jmt57]

Brady earned our respect over 7 years of winning. Cassell has won one game.What has Cassell done except set on the bench for four years? this is the pros I say prove it like Brady did.

If we go back seven years, one could take that very same comment and replace 'Brady' with 'Bledsoe', and replace 'Cassel' with 'Brady'. Your comment would look like this - which is how most of the Pats fans felt at the time:

Bledsoe earned our respect over 7 years of winning. Brady has won one game.What has Brady done except set on the bench for four years? this is the pros I say prove it like Bledsoe did.

These are, however, two different circumstances. BB inherited Bledsoe and saw flaws in his game that could not be remedied; Brady was destined to take over as soon as the next season even if Bledsoe did not get hurt. That is not the case with Cassel; Brady will be the starting QB when he returns.


But stranger things have happened.

Just ask **** Vermeil about Kurt Warner.

 

[PATRIOT64]

Get off the forums and go re-watch the 2001 season in its entirety and watch Brady's struggles and growth throughout 2001.

If the 2001 Brady was playing in 2007, this board would be filled with posts demanding to trade or release him. I GUARANTEE THAT.

Also you have no idea how important Cassel will be in our wins if we have a successful season as expected. Don't try to act like you know how good Cassel is or can become because you have NO clue. Not even the patriots coaches have a great clue of how good he will be or become. Nor did they exactly know how much Brady would grow. They just see the intangibles and the potential and work from there.

Its what I expect einstien - not what is going to happen, if you or I could see into the future then we would be doing alot more than sitting behind our keyboards at night

A successful season is simply not letting Cassel be as big a part of winning or losing as Brady is in this offense Matt just needs to do the simple things,he needs to do things right and often or the team will suffer for it since he is the leader of the offensive band you might say.

A fairly mistake free Cassel will help the team win,Brady or no Brady - He needs to blend in - not stand out and needs to keep that fu(king deer in the headlights look off his face on 3rd and long when he is looking directly across at those defensive ends with saliva dripping from their facemask knowing its a pass play

 

[jcdavey]

What I am saying is to say that Cassel can somehow duplicate what Brady has done over the past decade belittles all of what Brady has done. Not that he would be insulted himself. Obviously he wants the team to succeed.

oh that's not true at all

technically cassell can, i mean it's not impossible

it's a huge reach but it's not impossible, more like wishful

 

[fumbrunner]

Get off the forums and go re-watch the 2001 season in its entirety and watch Brady's struggles and growth throughout 2001.

If the 2001 Brady was playing in 2007, this board would be filled with posts demanding to trade or release him. I GUARANTEE THAT.

Also you have no idea how important Cassel will be in our wins if we have a successful season as expected. Don't try to act like you know how good Cassel is or can become because you have NO clue Not even the patriots coaches have a great clue of how good he will be or become. Nor did they exactly know how much Brady would grow. They just see the intangibles and the potential and work from there.

Wow. Really? He took over and the team was what? 0-2? led them to the playoffs? He did what he needed to do to WIN. I'm glad you are guaranteeing that. Personally, I dont think that is at all realistic. I'm glad you could look into your crystal ball for that situation, but we all "have no clue" about how good Cassel is or will become. I know, his potential is limitless!!