Next week we'll be fine. We'll just play conservative.

[MrBigglesWorth]

I look at this way.

-Run Defense was solid- this was a major question park in the preseason

-The Front 7 brought pressure- Seymour was all over the field. AD and Vrabes had solid games. It was good to see pressure all game when we needed to.

-The secondary I thought was pretty good considering so many new parts. Sure there were breakdowns but it's game one and you ahve to expect them to get better each week and they'll gel more each week. We had alot of players in there at safety and corner which will help depth all season long. I was wrong as I thought Wheatley would start.

- The rb's were solid. There were many long gains all day long and the OL proved they could pass block. It's yet to be determined how the Chief run defense will rank all season long.

- Cassel proved me wrong. I thought we had no chance at scoring points if he entered the game. You need to look at this like 2001. Hopefully brady will coome back. But how was Brady's first game?

We'll just have to play more conservative rely more on the defense and run game and you ahve to assume Cassel will get better each week if he's in their long term. Sure he'll have his growing pains.

and Faulk will be back next week.

I hope Brady is back ASAP, but this is what we have if we isn't and I think we still have a shot at winning

 

[BradfordPatsFan]

I was just looking at the NYJ box score. Miami only ran the ball 17 times (Williams 10, Brown 6, and Ginn 1) for just under 3 yards a pop. They were trailing by two posessions for the second half and only rushed 3 times in the second half.

I assume we could do better than that. Also, it looks like the ends and backs were open on short and medium depth routes. Cassel should be able to exploit this. Also, the Jets will have to defend the deep pass to Moss as Cassel showed today.

The return of Faulk will also likely open up the chance of more screen passes to pull people up and open up the deep ball to Moss.

If everyone steps their game up a la 2001, they should win this game.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

I was just looking at the NYJ box score. Miami only ran the ball 17 times (Williams 10, Brown 6, and Ginn 1) for just under 3 yards a pop. They were trailing by two posessions for the second half and only rushed 3 times in the second half.

I assume we could do better than that. Also, it looks like the ends and backs were open on short and medium depth routes. Cassel should be able to exploit this. Also, the Jets will have to defend the deep pass to Moss as Cassel showed today.

The return of Faulk will also likely open up the chance of more screen passes to pull people up and open up the deep ball to Moss.

If everyone steps their game up a la 2001, they should win this game.

That is a very good point. We could see a whole team elevation in terms of intensity.

and thank you for someone who actually wants to talk about the game

and the chargers lose!!

 

[wdkantro2]

As much as I hate to see Brady go down, I am glad that it appears McDaniels will now change his style (which I have always hated). This team IS still good enough to win. The defense I think will be excellent (will give up less than 15 PPG) and it really shouldn't be too tough to score more than that.

 

[patriotspride]

I look at this way.

-Run Defense was solid- this was a major question park in the preseason

-The Front 7 brought pressure- Seymour was all over the field. AD and Vrabes had solid games. It was good to see pressure all game when we needed to.

-The secondary I thought was pretty good considering so many new parts. Sure there were breakdowns but it's game one and you ahve to expect them to get better each week and they'll gel more each week. We had alot of players in there at safety and corner which will help depth all season long. I was wrong as I thought Wheatley would start.

- The rb's were solid. There were many long gains all day long and the OL proved they could pass block. It's yet to be determined how the Chief run defense will rank all season long.

- Cassel proved me wrong. I thought we had no chance at scoring points if he entered the game. You need to look at this like 2001. Hopefully brady will coome back. But how was Brady's first game?

We'll just have to play more conservative rely more on the defense and run game and you ahve to assume Cassel will get better each week if he's in their long term. Sure he'll have his growing pains.

and Faulk will be back next week.

I hope Brady is back ASAP, but this is what we have if we isn't and I think we still have a shot at winning

im a realist. the pats have a shot at winning some games. but they have no shot at winning the SB without brady. none zip nada bupkis zilch zippo. lets be honest.

 

[Leave No Doubt]

The team rallied admirably today and Cassel was just fine

There was a lot to like about our D too. Let's face it, nobody expected Brady to go down, and that includes the team on the field. All things considered I thought it was a great team win.

Good post Mr Biggles

 

[Leave No Doubt]

And yess, the Chargers LOST.

 

[patriotspride]

The team rallied admirably today and Cassel was just fine

There was a lot to like about our D too. Let's face it, nobody expected Brady to go down, and that includes the team on the field. All things considered I thought it was a great team win.

Good post Mr Biggles

ya your right. we lose the best qb in the nfl for maybe the whole year . but everythings just fine. all we have to do is close our eyes and ears and pretend everything is just fine.

 

[Seymour93]

As much as I hate to see Brady go down, I am glad that it appears McDaniels will now change his style (which I have always hated). This team IS still good enough to win. The defense I think will be excellent (will give up less than 15 PPG) and it really shouldn't be too tough to score more than that.

I agree. The only good thing to come out of this is that we will be able to return to smashmouth 2001, 2003 style football.

 

[Leave No Doubt]

ya your right. we lose the best qb in the nfl for maybe the whole year . but everythings just fine. all we have to do is close our eyes and ears and pretend everything is just fine.

Who said everything's just fine? Brady's hurt, we don't know for how long, so what's your suggestion? That we whine and wail about it maybe all season long? What happened to Brady sukced and it basically bummed me out and prevented me from enjoying the game, but you have to just move on. Either move on or throw up your hands and say "screw the season". Seeing as I'm not about to say that, I'll take it one game at a time, and for real this year. I'm not going to start moaning about the SB already. Gawd.

 

[BelichickFan]

im a realist. the pats have a shot at winning some games. but they have no shot at winning the SB without brady. none zip nada bupkis zilch zippo. lets be honest.

Clearly it's unlikely but they should be able to play good defense and run the ball, teams like that have been known to win playoff games before.

Regarding next week, we can win but I am a little concerned about Cassel leaving the friendly confines of Foxboro, he's not used to dealing with crowd noise, etc.

 

[BradfordPatsFan]

Clearly it's unlikely but they should be able to play good defense and run the ball, teams like that have been known to win playoff games before.

Regarding next week, we can win but I am a little concerned about Cassel leaving the friendly confines of Foxboro, he's not used to dealing with crowd noise, etc.

Your first sentence sounds a lot like Jacksonville, and I would be happy with a team like that until TB could come back.

Your second sentence makes me think about Brady's first road start at Miami.

 

[PittPatriot]

Clearly it's unlikely but they should be able to play good defense and run the ball, teams like that have been known to win playoff games before.

Regarding next week, we can win but I am a little concerned about Cassel leaving the friendly confines of Foxboro, he's not used to dealing with crowd noise, etc.

I am concerned too...but this is what makes it all so exciting. I was hopeless in 2001 after Drew went down - but 3 weeks later I found myself thinking "what do we have here?" If Cassel fizzles, we go to the rookie or try and get a vet to come in. I bet agents for several vets have already left V.M. for Pioli. It is going to be a grind, but I got my hopes up.

 

[captain stone]

As much as I hate to see Brady go down, I am glad that it appears McDaniels will now change his style (which I have always hated). This team IS still good enough to win. The defense I think will be excellent (will give up less than 15 PPG) and it really shouldn't be too tough to score more than that.

What makes you think that Skippy will change his empty-backfield-shotgun-minimum protection-7-step-drop-and-wait-for-Moss-to-go-long-until-his-QB-is-killed style?

The gameplan stayed the same all day with, just like the last meaningful game they played, no discernable adjustments.

Skippy (and the HC, if applicable) needs to get it through his obstinate skull that this OL is incapable of providing consistently adequate protection for the QB to continously wait for Moss to run his predictable 15-yard+ routes. That arrogant, ego-massaging thinking of the past 20 games just put our QB, and our season, in grave jeopardy.

 

[BadMoFo]

Next week will be a Brett Favre coming out. It'll be ugly.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

What makes you think that Skippy will change his empty-backfield-shotgun-minimum protection-7-step-drop-and-wait-for-Moss-to-go-long-until-his-QB-is-killed style?

The gameplan stayed the same all day with, just like the last meaningful game they played, no discernable adjustments.

Skippy (and the HC, if applicable) needs to get it through his obstinate skull that this OL is incapable of providing consistently adequate protection for the QB to continously wait for Moss to run his predictable 15-yard+ routes. That arrogant, ego-massaging thinking of the past 20 games just put our QB, and our season, in grave jeopardy.

Prior to injury how many passes versus runs?

Post injury how many passes and runs(much more balanced).

I didn't like that come out passing thingm just ask emoney,,, I commented in the chatroom about it.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

Cassel is our guy and it's time to stand behind him as Pats fans

 

[captain stone]

1) Prior to injury how many passes versus runs?

Post injury how many passes and runs(much more balanced).

2) I didn't like that come out passing thing just ask emoney,,, I commented in the chatroom about it.

1) Fair points; I still thought that there were too many low-percentage, slow-developing patterns for my liking.

2) I agree. I was apeshyte at the formations used during the opening drive, which should've started 20 yards farther downfield if Hobbs hadn't ******edly fielded the KO that was headed OOB.

If I were OC, I would never, ever run an Empty Backfield formation during a game in which the outcome was still in doubt.

 

[Rocky]

The team rallied admirably today and Cassel was just fine

There was a lot to like about our D too. Let's face it, nobody expected Brady to go down, and that includes the team on the field. All things considered I thought it was a great team win.

A great team win? Letting the CHiefs take you down to the wire is nothing close to a great team win. But, at least they didn't lose the game.

 

[SVN]

i actually think this jets game will be difficult to win. even with brady it was going to be competitive but with him out..its going be lot tougher...