<![CDATA[New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard - Source: Gronk's forearm surgery will happen Monday]]> http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/ This is a New England Patriots Message Board and Fan Forum. en Sun, 19 May 2013 15:30:16 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/images/misc/rss.jpg <![CDATA[New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard - Source: Gronk's forearm surgery will happen Monday]]> http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/ The EPA’s Disturbing Human Experiments http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027368-epa-s-disturbing-human-experiments.html Sun, 19 May 2013 15:10:05 GMT Sounds like the treatment given to the Tuskegee prisoners who were infected with VD. More abuse by the administration, who the hell is in charge of anything.




The EPA’s Disturbing Human Experiments | FrontPage Magazine


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The suit accuses the EPA of paying as many as 41 participants $12 an hour to breathe in concentrated diesel exhaust, for as long a two hours at a time. The exhaust was directly piped in from a truck parked outside the Chapel Hill facility. According to the lawsuit, the fine particulate matter, called “PM2.5,” was piped in at levels 21 times greater than what the EPA calls its “permissible limit.”



Yet even that phrase is misleading. In testimony delivered to Congress in September of 2011, EPA chief Lisa Jackson claimed that exposure to fine particulate matter of 2.5 microns–or less–was lethal. ”Particulate matter causes premature death. It’s directly causal to dying sooner than you should,” she testified at the time.

Milloy learned about the experiments last year, after reading about them in a government-supported scientific journal. In June, he filed a complaint with the North Carolina Medical Board, accusing Drs. Andrew Ghio and Wayne Cascio, both of whom were employed by the EPA, along with Dr. Eugene Chung, who worked for the University of North Carolina, of violating EPA standards of conduct in human research and the Hippocratic Oath. “During these experiments, the study subjects were intentionally exposed to airborne fine particulate matter (‘PM2.5′) at levels ranging from 41.54 micrograms per cubic meter to 750.83 micrograms per cubic meter for periods of up to two hours,” Milloy wrote to Dr. Ralph C. Loomis, president of the NC Medical Board. “The EPA also believes that PM2.5 is carcinogenic to humans,” he added.


So is this stuff as deadly as EPA says in which case they are killing people or is his sort of pollution not that serious? If they know this pollution is deadly why experiment on people in poor health (heart conditions and other ills). ? ]]> Political Discussion patsfan13 http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027368-epa-s-disturbing-human-experiments.html Ax hovers over food stamp program as costs grow http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027360-ax-hovers-over-food-stamp-program-costs-grow.html Sun, 19 May 2013 13:17:18 GMT Ax hovers over food stamp program as costs grow - In Plain Sight (http://inplainsight.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/19/18307642-ax-hovers-over-food-stamp-program-as-costs-grow?lite) ---Quote--- A heated battle is brewing on Capitol Hill over cuts to the food stamp program, with lawmakers quoting... Ax hovers over food stamp program as costs grow - In Plain Sight
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A heated battle is brewing on Capitol Hill over cuts to the food stamp program, with lawmakers quoting Bible verses at each other and benefits for millions of people hanging in the balance.

Nearly 47 million people – one in seven Americans – rely on food stamps for some of all of their daily sustenance, according to the Department of Agriculture, a number that has grown nearly 70 percent since the financial collapse of 2008.

The increased enrollment has caused costs to soar from $35 billion in 2007 to $80 billion last year, and now lawmakers in both the House and the Senate are targeting program for cuts even as advocates cry foul.
]]> Political Discussion IcyPatriot http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027360-ax-hovers-over-food-stamp-program-costs-grow.html Loons Come Up With A New One http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027359-loons-come-up-new-one.html Sun, 19 May 2013 12:35:25 GMT Big news this morning on TV, you can't let your dog stick his head out the window when he goes for a ride with you.

There's a war going on in Chicago that they hate talking about but they don't think twice about getting tough with Rover for doing his "dog thing"

I like to stick my head out the window too.

Impeach Obama ]]> Political Discussion Harry Boy http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027359-loons-come-up-new-one.html do you still need to understand Syria? http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027356-do-you-still-need-understand-syria.html Sun, 19 May 2013 11:39:35 GMT are you still unclear?

this Guardian story should help, the most succinct and honest version I've seen yet.



Peak oil, climate change and pipeline geopolitics driving Syria conflict | Nafeez Ahmed | Environment | guardian.co.uk
Syria's dash for gas has been spurred by its rapidly declining oil revenues, driven by the peak of its conventional oil production in 1996. Even before the war, the country's rate of oil production had plummeted by nearly half, from a peak of just under 610,000 barrels per day (bpd) to approximately 385,000 bpd in 2010.

Then from 2010 to 2011, the price of wheat doubled - fueled by a combination of extreme weather events linked to climate change, oil price spikes and intensified speculation on food commodities - impacting on Syrian wheat imports. Assad's inability to maintain subsidies due to rapidly declining oil revenues worsened the situation. The food price hikes triggered the protests that evolved into armed rebellion, in response to Assad's indiscriminate violence against demonstrators. ...

The origins of Syria's 'war by proxy' are therefore unmistakeable - the result of converging climate, oil and debt crises within a politically repressive state, the conflict's future continues to be at the mercy of rival foreign geopolitical interests in dominating the energy corridors of the Middle East and North Africa.
Iran wants a pipeline through that country for their new natural gas production, in order to supply Syria, Lebanon, and maybe even parts of Europe. The West wants... for that not to happen.

This is what peak looks like. ]]> Political Discussion Titus Pullo http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027356-do-you-still-need-understand-syria.html Should the USA Have Given Asylum to Dr. Shakil Afridi http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027327-should-usa-have-given-asylum-dr-shakil-afridi.html Sat, 18 May 2013 21:33:45 GMT Dr. Shakil Afridi is the doctor who helped Obama / CIA find Osama ... the rest is history and no need to rehash. Well ... I am very old school in many things and I have always been a return the favor and scratch the other back kind of person whenever possible. I guess Obama is not such a person.... Dr. Shakil Afridi is the doctor who helped Obama / CIA find Osama ... the rest is history and no need to rehash. Well ... I am very old school in many things and I have always been a return the favor and scratch the other back kind of person whenever possible. I guess Obama is not such a person.

CIA 'Osama operation doctor' Shakil Afridi denied fair trial, allege lawyers

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Afridi, a former agency surgeon, was picked up allegedly by an intelligence agency in May 2011 on suspicion of helping CIA trace Osama bin Laden by carrying out a fake vaccination campaign in Abbottabad.

However, he was not convicted on that charge. Dr Afridi was later shifted to the Peshawar Central Prison on May 23, 2012, after his conviction by the assistant political agent of Bara tehsil in Khyber Agency. He has now been kept in solitary confinement.

According to the report, the lawyers for Dr Shakil said trial for offences for which their client was charged could only be conducted if the federal government or a provincial government had filed written complaint.(ANI)
Opinions?

Obama got major play on this deal ... seems heartless to me that he was not brought here. ]]> Political Discussion IcyPatriot http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027327-should-usa-have-given-asylum-dr-shakil-afridi.html If we are not careful http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027325-if-we-not-careful.html Sat, 18 May 2013 20:29:51 GMT This is where liberalism will take us http://news.yahoo.com/eu-finds-time-tell-restaurants-serve-olive-oil-152027170.html This is where liberalism will take us

http://news.yahoo.com/eu-finds-time-...152027170.html ]]> Political Discussion IllegalContact http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027325-if-we-not-careful.html Mike Kelly gets standing ovation. http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027306-mike-kelly-gets-standing-ovation.html Sat, 18 May 2013 11:55:42 GMT A Pandoras box. Obama just found out about this. LOL Good stuff. GOP Congressman Receives Standing Ovation After He Rips IRS Commissioner | RealClearPolitics... A Pandoras box. Obama just found out about this. LOL

Good stuff.

GOP Congressman Receives Standing Ovation After He Rips IRS Commissioner | RealClearPolitics ]]> Political Discussion Triumph http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027306-mike-kelly-gets-standing-ovation.html Stupid press tricks http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/1027289-stupid-press-tricks.html Sat, 18 May 2013 03:13:42 GMT I'll start off with an article that predicts BJGE will be cut by Cincinnati. In itself, that's not an absurd claim.

But one of the stated or at least implied reasons is that ... wait for it ... BJGE fumbles too much.

2013 NFL Free Agents: Predicting Each Team's Best Camp Cut | Bleacher Report ]]> PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum Fencer http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/1027289-stupid-press-tricks.html Physical Strength And Political Conservatism Co-Evolved, Say Social Scientists http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027284-physical-strength-political-conservatism-co-evolved-say-social-scientists.html Sat, 18 May 2013 02:41:48 GMT Physical Strength And Political Conservatism Co-Evolved, Say Social Scientists (http://www.science20.com/news_articles/physical_strength_and_political_conservatism_coevolved_say_social_scientists-112048) ---Quote--- If you are physically strong, social science scholars believe they can ... Physical Strength And Political Conservatism Co-Evolved, Say Social Scientists

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If you are physically strong, social science scholars believe they can predict whether or not you are more conservative than other men.
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Michael Bang Petersen, associate professor in the Department of Political Science and Government at Aarhus University, and evolutionary psychology colleagues at UC Santa Barbara say the strength/politics connection is due to evolution, which is sure to annoy biologists.

Men's upper-body strength predicts their political opinions on economic redistribution, they write, and they believe that the link may reflect psychological traits that evolved in response to our early ancestral environments and continue to influence behavior today
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In line with their hypotheses, the data revealed that wealthy men with big biceps were less likely to support redistribution, while less wealthy men of the same strength were more likely to support it.

In other words, richer men with big biceps supported lower taxes while poorer men with big biceps wanted higher taxes - on the rich. But men with tiny biceps were less adamant on both sides, they weren't as fanatical about socialism or capitalism.
]]> Political Discussion IcyPatriot http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027284-physical-strength-political-conservatism-co-evolved-say-social-scientists.html Madden anniversary edition includes nfl Sunday ticket http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/98/1027278-madden-anniversary-edition-includes-nfl-sunday-ticket.html Sat, 18 May 2013 00:54:02 GMT Pre order from Amazon for 100 which is good 60 fir the game and 40 for Sunday ticket... great deal! Pre order from Amazon for 100 which is good 60 fir the game and 40 for Sunday ticket... great deal! ]]> The Practice Squad xlcjw72 http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/98/1027278-madden-anniversary-edition-includes-nfl-sunday-ticket.html Breaking: Gronk needs surgery on hernia, foot, tongue, neck, hamstring, kidney, ear http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/1027263-breaking-gronk-needs-surgery-hernia-foot-tongue-neck-hamstring-kidney-ear.html Fri, 17 May 2013 22:20:20 GMT Here is a projected photo of what he'll look like in the Patriots new offense:

]]> PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum Ice_Ice_Brady http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/1027263-breaking-gronk-needs-surgery-hernia-foot-tongue-neck-hamstring-kidney-ear.html <![CDATA[Banks to Porn Stars - We don't want your money]]> http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027257-banks-porn-stars-we-dont-want-your-money.html Fri, 17 May 2013 20:20:35 GMT Chanel Preston knows not everyone approves of her chosen profession. That's one of the risks that go with being one of the biggest stars in porn. But she never thought it would affect her ability to open a bank account.

Preston recently opened a business account with City National Bank in Los Angeles. When she went to deposit checks into the account days later, however, she was told it had been shut down, due to "compliance issues".

She found the manager she had originally worked with and asked what had happened. The bank, she was told, was worried about the Webcam shows she had on her site and had revoked the account.
And it is not uncommon for many businesses to take a moral stand about who they do business with. Indeed, some investment firms make it a point to avoid getting involved with tobacco producers or gun manufacturers because of the social issues tied to those industries.

Porn stars and adult entertainment industry insiders do note that the troubles they've experienced are tied to business—not personal—accounts. That may be because personal accounts are opened under their real names, which typically don't raise an eyebrow, while business is done under more well-known pseudonyms, which is when people take notice.


Banks to porn stars: Your money's not welcome - NBC News.com


Should banks be able to decide which business accounts they want to open and who gets loans based upon what they do? ]]> Political Discussion RI Patriots fan http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/1027257-banks-porn-stars-we-dont-want-your-money.html Report: Gronkowski May Require Back Surgery http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/1027254-report-gronkowski-may-require-back-surgery.html Fri, 17 May 2013 19:30:59 GMT Patriots TE Rob Gronkowski could require back surgery

According to USA Today...

This has been the one issue of Gronk's that I had always been concerned with. Where everyone is talking about the forearm, everyone seems to have forgotten that his biggest knock out of college was the discs in his back. Last year, it was clear his back was bothering him, and this report confirms it.

Arms can heal, but back injures, especially chronic back injuries, can derail careers. Let's just hope this isn't so much a structural thing as it is just pain management. ]]> PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum MTM558 http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/1027254-report-gronkowski-may-require-back-surgery.html Jets Mike Goodson Arrested On Drug Charge http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/1027233-jets-mike-goodson-arrested-drug-charge.html Fri, 17 May 2013 17:00:00 GMT Jets : Have Gun Will Travel!

I Know not another Jet thread but its been kind of quiet lately so I thought I'd just throw this out there.......

Mike Goodson of New York Jets arrested on drug, weapons charges - ESPN New York ]]> PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum DaBronxPats14 http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/1027233-jets-mike-goodson-arrested-drug-charge.html <![CDATA[Donte' Stallworth cleared medically]]> http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/1027216-donte-stallworth-cleared-medically.html Fri, 17 May 2013 15:45:07 GMT Lots of speculation he comes back to New England. Lots of speculation he comes back to New England. ]]> PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum BadMoFo http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/1027216-donte-stallworth-cleared-medically.html