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Old 03-14-2008, 10:14 AM
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invading under the banner of freedom and democracy, while reducing it at home. nice...
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SO some kid on a left wing whacko website says that the FBI committed abuses, and he can't even make up specifics, and you post it as the truth?


Can you even name one regualtion in the actual Patriot Act, and then document an actual convcited abuse of same?
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SO some kid on a left wing whacko website says that the FBI committed abuses, and he can't even make up specifics, and you post it as the truth?

FTW don't you work for the fbi?
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...ive&id=5108101
March 9, 2007 (WLS) -- ABC7 News has learned the Chicago office of the FBI is one of the regional headquarters where agents abused the power of the Patriot Act. That law gives agents the power to demand phone and financial records without a court order.
A Justice Department investigation found the FBI has repeatedly violated the Patriot Act and some of those actions could be illegal. In this Intelligence Report: Chicago has more problem cases than any other FBI field office.
The Justice Department investigation focused on counterterrorism cases in four field offices, New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco and Chicago. Those four invoked Patriot Act provisions more than any other US cities. The I-Team has learned more cases with problems were found by investigators in Chicago than anywhere else.
The FBI improperly and, in some cases, illegally used the USA Patriot Act to secretly obtain personal information about people in Chicago
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SO some kid on a left wing whacko website says that the FBI committed abuses, and he can't even make up specifics, and you post it as the truth?

FTW don't you work for the fbi?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...yndication=rss
The FBI continued to improperly obtain private telephone, e-mail and financial records five years after it was granted expanded powers under the USA Patriot Act, according to a report issued Thursday.

In a review focusing on FBI investigations in 2006, Justice Department Inspector General Glenn Fine found numerous privacy breaches by the bureau in its use of national-security letters, or NSLs, which allowed the FBI to obtain personal information on tens of thousands of Americans and foreigners without approval from a judge.
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That article is over a year old, and syas they were "implicated", any updates?

Gee I wonder who in Chicago the FBI could have been worried about? It is not like there are any hate America organizations based in Chicago, such as the Nation of Islam and of course, our new favorite hate America oganization, Obama's "church".

I can only hope that the FBI is looking into these dangerous anti-Americans.
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That article is over a year old, and syas they were "implicated", any updates?

Gee I wonder who in Chicago the FBI could have been worried about? It is not like there are any hate America organizations based in Chicago, such as the Nation of Islam and of course, our new favorite hate America oganization, Obama's "church".

I can only hope that the FBI is looking into these dangerous anti-Americans.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...ied-to-co.html
FBI Tried to Cover Patriot Act Abuses With Flawed, Retroactive Subpoenas, Audit Finds
By Ryan Singel March 13, 2008 | 1:04:30 PMCategories: Spooks Gone Wild, Sunshine and Secrecy, Surveillance
FBI headquarters officials sought to cover their informal and possibly illegal acquisition of phone records on thousands of Americans from 2003 to 2005 by issuing 11 improper, retroactive "blanket" administrative subpoenas in 2006 to three phone companies that are under contract to the FBI, according to an audit released Thursday.

Top officials at the FBI's counter-terrorism division signed the blanket subpoenas "retroactively to justify the FBI's acquisition of data through the exigent letters or or other informal requests," the Justice Department's Inspector General Glenn Fine found.

The revelations come in a follow-up report to Fine's 2007 finding that the FBI abused a key Patriot Act power, known as a National Security Letter. That first reports showed that FBI agents were routinely sloppy in using the self-issued subpoenas and issued hundreds that claimed fake emergencies.

With the flawed follow-up letters, the Counterterrorism division attempted to provide retroactive legal justification for telephone data the division had gotten on 3,860 phone numbers, gotten either through verbal requests to the companies or false emergency requests.
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FTW don't you work for the fbi?
Nope, work with, but not for

BTW the ask any agent to get a National Security Letter, and they will start to cry, they will ask an agent from another agency to get the data through a grand jury subpeona, much less paperwork.
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http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/999567.html
Dan Eggen, The Washington Post
WASHINGTON - The FBI continued improperly obtaining private telephone, e-mail and financial records five years after it was granted expanded powers under the USA Patriot Act, according to a report issued Thursday.
In a review focusing on FBI investigations in 2006, Justice Department Inspector General Glenn Fine found numerous privacy breaches by the bureau in its use of national security letters, which allowed the bureau to obtain personal information on tens of thousands of Americans and foreigners without approval from a judge.

The findings mirror a report that Fine's office issued last year, which concluded that the FBI had improperly used the letters to obtain telephone logs, banking records and other personal data for the three previous years.
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Dan Eggen, The Washington Post
WASHINGTON - The FBI continued improperly obtaining private telephone, e-mail and financial records five years after it was granted expanded powers under the USA Patriot Act, according to a report issued Thursday.
In a review focusing on FBI investigations in 2006, Justice Department Inspector General Glenn Fine found numerous privacy breaches by the bureau in its use of national security letters, which allowed the bureau to obtain personal information on tens of thousands of Americans and foreigners without approval from a judge.

The findings mirror a report that Fine's office issued last year, which concluded that the FBI had improperly used the letters to obtain telephone logs, banking records and other personal data for the three previous years.
I can get all of that faster, quicker and easier, without anything more than the approval of my first line Supervisor. Where do I get this unlimited power? The Customs Act of 1790. These people are blowing smoke up your ass.
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