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Old 02-21-2008, 11:19 AM
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I saw at http://www.nfldraftspecialist.com/nf...specialist.asp. a possible trade of with Minn for A. Winfield and pick swap.

We would move to 17 in 1st and still could get a CB.

Thoughts on Winfield???
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I saw at http://www.nfldraftspecialist.com/nf...specialist.asp. a possible trade of with Minn for A. Winfield and pick swap.

We would move to 17 in 1st and still could get a CB.

Thoughts on Winfield???
I'd be on-board, IF Winfield was willing to re-structure. I'm pretty sure he has a bloated salary. He's definitely starter material, and I'd take the trade down in picks.
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I'd be on-board, IF Winfield was willing to re-structure. I'm pretty sure he has a bloated salary. He's definitely starter material, and I'd take the trade down in picks.
This is what he has left :

2008: $5.6 million
2009: $6 million
2010: Free Agent

Not cheap but not bad. Certainly cheaper than Samuel.
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This is what he has left :

2008: $5.6 million
2009: $6 million
2010: Free Agent

Not cheap but not bad. Certainly cheaper than Samuel.
Then mark me down as Yes. I would do this trade.
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I'd like that for the Pats as well. The Pats supposedly wanted Winfield back when he originally signed with the Vikings.

Though, I'd insist on Winfield signing an extension that would add 4 years to his current contract while lightening the cap hit for the 1st 2 years.
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#17 is about where most of us expected the SF pick to be originally. Getting the rights to Winfield as a bonus for SF's "effort" works for me. #17 is also a pretty good spot for the first round group of CB. We wouldn't be locked into that, of course, but Winfield, Hobbs, #1 pick at CB would be an uphrade over last year IMO.
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He is one of my favorite non-patriots in the league. Only knock on him I have is that is he is only 5-9(so am I lol). This guy can however lay the lumber with the best of them. Had 106 tackles(79 solo) in his third full season. I would love to trade down and get him with a restructure as stated in one of the above posts. We could then draft a guy like Quentin Groves who is gonna run around a 4.43 at the combine at 6-3 250. If he runs a 4.4 at the combine at that size watch him rocket into the first round for sure, I like him in our system as that speed rushing OLB/DE we need. may be a stretch to take at the Vikings 14 but I would still take it as my hopes for the draft are Gholston and a second round corner because the CB class is deep as hell. Or Mcfadden falls to us and we trade to Dallas for their two first rounders and take one of the first round corners like Rogers-Cromartie and Groves.

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That's a pretty significant drop from 7th. The question... is Winfield worth a mid 1st round pick? Cuz that's what it would take in addition to the 17th pick to ordinarily move that high.
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That's a pretty significant drop from 7th. The question... is Winfield worth a mid 1st round pick? Cuz that's what it would take in addition to the 17th pick to ordinarily move that high.
True, but it also all depends on what the Patriots are looking to do with the pick. Say for example they wanted to draft a corner anyways (not out of the realm of possibility), even if the top corner isn't around at 17, it's pretty likely one of the top 2 or 3 guys will be. Since most of us agree that there's no clear #1 corner in the draft, picking one at #17 probably isn't going to make a huge difference from taking one at #7 (save for the financial windfall).

Plus, you get a starting caliber corner to pair with Hobbs and help ease the transition if you draft a corner (even Cromartie was the nickel in his first year).

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He is one of my favorite non-patriots in the league. Only knock on him I have is that is he is only 5-9(so am I lol). This guy can however lay the lumber with the best of them. Had 106 tackles(79 solo) in his third full season. I would love to trade down and get him with a restructure as stated in one of the above posts. We could then draft a guy like Quentin Groves who is gonna run around a 4.43 at the combine at 6-3 250. If he runs a 4.4 at the combine at that size watch him rocket into the first round for sure, I like him in our system as that speed rushing OLB/DE we need. may be a stretch to take at the Vikings 14 but I would still take it as my hopes for the draft are Gholston and a second round corner because the CB class is deep as hell. Or Mcfadden falls to us and we trade to Dallas for their two first rounders and take one of the first round corners like Rogers-Cromartie and Groves.
The problem with Groves has been his consistency. Groves was highly touted going into the start of this year and has really fallen hard. Prior to the start of this season, he was supposedly a top 10 pick. Now, he's being talked about as a late 2nd rounder possibly a 3rd rounder. Not sure that he'll move back up into the 1st round, regardless of what he does at the combine.
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