Shrager's top 10 - Interesting

[Steamer86]

Schrager's top 10
1. Miami: Jake Long, OT, Michigan
2. St. Louis: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
3. Atlanta*: Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
4. Oakland*: Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
5. Kansas City*: Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State
6. New York Jets: Chris Long, DE, Virginia
7. New England: Keith Rivers, LB, USC
8. Baltimore: Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State
9. Cincinnati: Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
10. New Orleans: Pat Sims, DT, Auburn

What do you think? Couldn't we trade down about 5-10 spots for Rivers? J Long at 1 is different than most mocks and Clady moving up to 5, since Long is gone. I'd like Ellis (can never have too many massive studs - see Giants) or Gholston and go corner and LB with next two picks. Just load up on D and then go OL next year. If they think Clady is real deal and he is there at 7, then I guess they will have to consider as they could use the giant punishing LT. The Jets would love this scenario, but they will not get C. Long.

[ctpatsfan77]

It also begs the question--who/what do the Pats value most? I think a fair number of people on this board would argue that the Pats would probably take Gholston over Rivers if both were available. . . . then again, they might drop down, and take a CB.

[BRiZ]

KC could be a very realistic trading partner for the Pats. We could give them our high 3rd rounder to move to their spot at 5 if someone like McFadden or Chris Long is there, and KC could fall back to 7 and take Clady there. The Jets will probably take Gholston not KC's lineman, this all depends on Jake Long going early though, theres no way KC will trade with us is Jake is on the board.

I would trade up with a 3rd for Chris Long or McFadden in a heartbeat. Would love for BB to stick it to Mangini too.

[ctpatsfan77]

Originally Posted by BRiZ

KC could be a very realistic trading partner for the Pats. We could give them our high 3rd rounder to move to their spot at 5 if someone like McFadden or Chris Long is there, and KC could fall back to 7 and take Clady there. The Jets will probably take Gholston not KC's lineman, this all depends on Jake Long going early though, theres no way KC will trade with us is Jake is on the board.

I would trade up with a 3rd for Chris Long or McFadden in a heartbeat. Would love for BB to stick it to Mangini too.

Just remember that there's a 25% chance that KC picks at #4. . . .

[THEARCHIVES]

That guy is an idiot to think that Keith Rivers will go that high. Also, he is coming from a team that runs a 4-3. Gholston would and will be the pick if he is available.

[BRiZ]

Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77

Just remember that there's a 25% chance that KC picks at #4. . . .

thats true we'll see how it comes out, i think they are doing the coin flip before Friday. I really hope KC stays at 5.

[sebman2112]

Originally Posted by THEARCHIVES

That guy is an idiot to think that Keith Rivers will go that high. Also, he is coming from a team that runs a 4-3. Gholston would and will be the pick if he is available.

Don't know about taking him so high, but I've wondered (at times) if Rivers could be an option for NE, especially if they were to trade down. I'm talking about Rivers at ILB, not OLB just in case someone is wondering...

PS: Don't be so sure about Gholston, at 7th overall. There are some realistic question marks concerning his ability to be an every down LB in a 3-4, and he's pretty raw. I'd rather trade down and pick up another second rounder anyways.

[nashvillepatsfan]

Originally Posted by sebman2112

Don't know about taking him so high, but I've wondered (at times) if Rivers could be an option for NE, especially if they were to trade down. I'm talking about Rivers at ILB, not OLB just in case someone is wondering...

PS: Don't be so sure about Gholston, at 7th overall. There are some realistic question marks concerning his ability to be an every down LB in a 3-4, and he's pretty raw. I'd rather trade down and pick up another second rounder anyways.

i too, would rather see them trade down, and pick up another second rounder. i see more value there. as much as i would like to see a stud linebacker, b.b. always does the opposite of what we think he should do. watch him draft a q.b., and f*** with everyones mind
i say trade down to around 15, and pick up a second as well.

[Seneschal2]

Who is Shrager or Schrager?

[nittanylions52]

Not the best mock I've seen. Kentwan Balmer is generally the consensus #3 DT, though we'll see after the combine. If Jake Long is gone by the time KC picks, then they'll probably go with Clady. They've got the top 9 or so guys right (except Rivers, what is he doing there?), but not in the right order imo.