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[pats1]

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2007/12/welcome_to_snow.html

Welcome to snowy Gillette
By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff
December 16, 2007 08:32 AM

FOXBOROUGH -- Welcome to Gillette Stadium, where the Patriots host the Jets today (1 p.m.). If the current weather conditions continue, this will be a game defined by how the teams deal with the elements.

It is snowing, and there are considerable wind gusts. The temperature is currently 28 degrees. The forecast indicates that the snow is expected to turn to rain shortly before kickoff.

The field is currently covered by a green tarp and four plows are now pushing snow off the tarp. Workers are also clearing off seats, which are blanketed with snow.

While driving into the stadium, one might have thought visibility would have been an issue, but that doesn't appear as if it will be a concern for the teams.

In terms of analysis, these conditions would seemingly favor the Jets. Because the Patriots have such a proficient passing game, the conditions are going to make it challenging to execute.

We'll be passing along updates throughout the day.

[apricissimus]

I just spent ten minutes walking to the store. I'd HATE to have to spend 60 minutes playing football in this grossness.

[patsfaninpa]

Pats toss first shutout of the season. Slot receivers will have a big day. Faulk and Welker. Moss and Stallworth will be dangerous on quick slants. They are anyway. But, if the db slips. They could take it all the way.

[ALP]

maybe we practice a little running agaisnt the jets?

u know, just to show everyone we just MIGHT be able to run, Ha Ha, so they are not all THAT surprised when we run all over them in the playoffs

[SeanBruschi54]

If everyone is saying we do a lot of screen passes and slants then why is Maroney left out of the conversation?

Everyone saw how dangerous he was when catching the ball.

[Remix 6]

i dont like this at all..sorry.

-its gonna be pretty windy with precip
that effects Brady and his throws (we saw the winds in baltimore)

-our run game hasnt been great and our OL has some trouble..going up against a big defense in terms of size..the advantage goes to the D

-our run D has been very disappointing, Jets run game has gotten better recently and in the snow..im worried

[chrisfx811]

Has Brady ever gone to gloves in inclement weather?

Turnovers will be the biggest stat of the day. Well, of course, besides the score. ;)

[Patjew]

Has Brady ever gone to gloves in inclement weather?


He wore gloves on and off in 2002 and maybe afterwards. There was a stretch when he wore them all the time, but they proved to be not effective for him. But yeah, he can wear them.

[SEA_Pat]

My big worry is that sleety, cold conditions = many turnovers. That plays to the Jets' favour if they can fluke a few TDs out of it.

[VJCPatriot]

Ok, let's get this outta the way first. Who will go out and predict that Maroney breaks out for 100 yards rushing? The weather conditions discourage passing and the Jets have the the #30 ranked rushing defense in the NFL. Go ahead, get it out of your system, make the prediction!

[Boston Jay]

The dude on the milk carton will have 101 rushing yards this week. nyah!

[VJCPatriot]

The dude on the milk carton will have 101 rushing yards this week. nyah!

:) I hope so. Running the ball well becomes even more important in the cold/blizzard weather.

[chrisfx811]

My big worry is that sleety, cold conditions = many turnovers. That plays to the Jets' favour if they can fluke a few TDs out of it.

Fwiw, the Pats are +18 in the TO margin, while the Jets are -3.
I agree the weather could force fluke things to happen, but the Jets are far more inconsistent at hanging onto the ball and/or forcing turnovers.

[SWelker]

OLB Mike Vrabel, who was questionable on the Patriots' latest injury report due to his thigh, has taken the field in his game pants and loosened up by cutting back and forth. No medical/training staff was present as Vrabel warmed up, a sign that he is likely to play today.

At this time, no other players are on the field.

[AFPatsFan12]

The Jets mindset coming into this one, per Wendi Nix on ESPN: "We just want to come in, play the game, get out of here, and close this chapter." Conditions be damned, does this sound like a team that is ready to come in and put up a fight? So instead of dreaming for the obscene (63-3, or something), we expect the ordinary (24-3 or something of that ilk). Won't be pretty, but shouldn't be too terribly difficult...

[jct]

I believe that the Pats have decided to run just enough to keep opposing defenses honest.
Passes yield more yards per attempt.
So you pass to put the opponent in 5 or 6 DBs then you run.
But Maroney will see his 100 this week and next.
So I am a believer.

[Sean Pa Patriot]

I think this game scares more and more that I hear the weather...

[Halifax_Pats_Fan]

Ok, let's get this outta the way first. Who will go out and predict that Maroney breaks out for 100 yards rushing? The weather conditions discourage passing and the Jets have the the #30 ranked rushing defense in the NFL. Go ahead, get it out of your system, make the prediction!

that would make me one happy fan, and raise his stock around NE....again I would love to see this

[Halifax_Pats_Fan]

I think this game scares more and more that I hear the weather...

it definately scares me, i don't want it to but I have a weird feeling here.

If NE goes up and puts up 40 i would be a happy guy.

dunno....

[Sean Pa Patriot]

I just hate the Jets...

[PaulNEPats]

Ok, let's get this outta the way first. Who will go out and predict that Maroney breaks out for 100 yards rushing? The weather conditions discourage passing and the Jets have the the #30 ranked rushing defense in the NFL. Go ahead, get it out of your system, make the prediction!

Watch out, Deus will accuse you of feeding gameplans into BB's mouth. :bricks:

[PatsFanSince74]

Greetings, all, from rainy Manhattan, home to millions of miserable Jets fans.

i'm foregoing my usual Pats/Jets pregame routine of walking around my midtown block in a Hoodie and opting for hot chocolate with my kids, who are going stir crazy. i will, of course, take my traditional, "hoodied" victory lap along Second Avenue after we demolish the jests.

I just checked a couple of weather forecasts for Fboro this afternoon and they call for light rain (1/4--1/2"), temps in the low-mid thirties, with winds from 20--29mph. definitely not balmy, but also not as bad as we might have thought yesterday. i think the pats will put up at least 30 and that brady will get at least two of his 5 td passes...

[Remix 6]

get ready for Wilson back in lineup i guess. Sanders = OUT so Wilson and then either Baker or Meriweather

[VJCPatriot]

Watch out, Deus will accuse you of feeding gameplans into BB's mouth. :bricks:

LOL, I'm used to his nonsense by now so I'm not worried. I just want to see the Patriots win big today. The weather is going to make things a little iffy though.
But you've gotta admit, these ARE just about the perfect conditions for emphasizing the run game. Bad weather and bad run defense team (#30 overall).

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Oh god not Rashad Baker...

[VJCPatriot]

Oh god not Rashad Baker...

Hey don't knock him, I think he might be decent on special teams coverage or something... I turned him into a 1st round pick in Madden... LOL.

[Lampshade]

Baker is inactive, too.

Quarterback Matt Gutierrez (Third quarterback)
Wide receiver Chad Jackson
Safety Rashad Baker
Safety James Sanders
Right guard Stephen Neal
Center guard Billy Yates
Wide receiver Troy Brown
Tight end Benjamin Watson

[Remix 6]

Hey don't knock him, I think he might be decent on special teams coverage or something... I turned him into a 1st round pick in Madden... LOL.

well coaches do like him i believe..and he is a hitter..he wants to hit. thats what matters. let up a catch, okay but hes gonna comeback and hit u. he knocked Randy Moss on his ass in minicamp as if it were full pads. good attitude

okay. Wilson-Harrison-Meriweather

dont u love it when you can lose your starter and still be in great shape?

[MoLewisrocks]

Pats1 needs to start doing two game threads. One for the scardy cat whiny complain every play was the wrong call or the player sucked crowd, and one the rest of us...

A lot of you probably have deep seeded psychosis, but the rest of you clearly label yourselves as johnny come lately Pats fans who don't have much of an established appreciation for what this team is and routinely does and has done for several years.

[Patjew]

Sanders = OUT

That I do not like.

[Remix 6]

oh wow. i learned so much the last 5 minutes from Sunday Countdown

wow!

the Rat tried to recruit coaches on the plane ride from Denver?
the Rat and BB had a much closer relationship than i would have imagined..like father-son relationship!

he completely betrayed Bill..you got a job okay but now u try to take coaches from here prematurely? what a joke

[sebman2112]

The Patriots heated fieldturf looks great right now.

[JoePats]

oh wow. i learned so much the last 5 minutes from Sunday Countdown

wow!

the Rat tried to recruit coaches on the plane ride from Indy?
the Rat and BB had a much closer relationship than i would have imagined..like father-son relationship!

he completely betrayed Bill..you got a job okay but now u try to take coaches from here prematurely? what a joke

plane from Denver.

[Wildo7]

"just know who you're dealing with"

I can't stand Tom Jackson.:mad:

[Remix 6]

plane from Denver.

thats what i mean sorry

he wasnt here last year..how could i forget when we raped them in playoffs

[tatepatsfan]

Weather update: they just showed Wendy Nix at the stadium, it is down to just rain, and the winds are dead right now. But expect them to pick up. So wind will be the problem (if any), not really precipitation.

[Lampshade]

Interestingly, Mike Reiss suggests Gay will likely get the start at safety.

[Remix 6]

Interestingly, Mike Reiss suggests Gay will likely get the start at safety.

eh he has Wilson behind Gay and Meriweather? Maybe..but if it becomes a passing game somehow..i expect a ton of 26

[MrBigglesWorth]

Pats1 needs to start doing two game threads. One for the scardy cat whiny complain every play was the wrong call or the player sucked crowd, and one the rest of us...

A lot of you probably have deep seeded psychosis, but the rest of you clearly label yourselves as johnny come lately Pats fans who don't have much of an established appreciation for what this team is and routinely does and has done for several years.

I want to say right now before the game the Pats are not scoring fast enough. They need to pick it up right now at this very second.

[Lampshade]

eh he has Wilson behind Gay and Meriweather? Maybe..but if it becomes a passing game somehow..i expect a ton of 26

Perhaps Geno just slipped his mind while he was typing it.

I guess today will show whether he was in the doghouse, or just being given time to rehab. I think he'll get the start.

[Keegs]

I would be happy to see Gay start at safety, for all intensive purposes.

[Jimke]

I'd feel much more secure today if Corey Dillon was our running back

running the ball up the gut. I hope Maroney doesn't dance about

and fumble a couple of times.

[Michael]

Snow, :blahblah:, spygate 2/grudge match :blahblah:, 13-0 :blahblah:, handshake :blahblah:.

This concludes our coverage of the game.

[Disco Volante]

Just woke up, now 36 min away from gametime!

Haven't been able to say that for weeks.

How's the weather situation in Foxboro right now? Exact numbers would be nice.

[sebman2112]

Just woke up, now 36 min away from gametime!

Haven't been able to say that for weeks.

How's the weather situation in Foxboro right now? Exact numbers would be nice.

I don't know the temp right now, but as I already posted, the field looks great.

[Disco Volante]

Good to hear. :)

Hope the winds are low.

[MoLewisrocks]

I don't know the temp right now, but as I already posted, the field looks great.

If they were paying any attention to you, you'd be ruining their collective anxiety attack...

Not to mention Wendy Nix other observation that the JETS just want to get today over with and be 1 game closer to heading home for the offseason.

[MrBigglesWorth]

If they were paying any attention to you, you'd be ruining their collective anxiety attack...

Not to mention Wendy Nix other observation that the JETS just want to get today over with and be 1 game closer to heading home for the offseason.

Wendy Nix observes incorrect things at times. Hopefully she's right on this one. and if she isn't...who cares??? do the Jets have a shot here? sure..... not a good one tho.

[MoLewisrocks]

I'd feel much more secure today if Corey Dillon was our running back

running the ball up the gut. I hope Maroney doesn't dance about

and fumble a couple of times.


Wasn't Corey our RB the last time we lost at home in a mess to the JETS?

[Pats Fanatic]

Can't wait for this game to begin. Enough with this spygate crap.

[Remix 6]

Good to hear. :)

Hope the winds are low.

hahahaha

i cant help but laugh @ the "hope winds are low"

up to 35-40 mph. morning sunshine

[Remix 6]

Reiss says

O'Callaghan took 2nd group snaps @ Guard

Wilson was with the first group at FS next to Harrison

WRs caught many balls with their bodies

Gostkowski struggled with 40 yard kicks

^last 2 notes deal with weather

[Aldogg]

You know, this game is getting way too much hype for a huge mismatch. I wouldn't mind hearing more about Pitt/Jax or Buffalo/Cleveland then keep rehashing spygate. Now this whole fake dancing thing on CBS just made me throw up in my mouth. Can we get kickoff and the slaughter started already?

[Boston Jay]

Snow, :blahblah:, spygate 2/grudge match :blahblah:, 13-0 :blahblah:, handshake :blahblah:.

This concludes our coverage of the game.

True.

By the way, wtf was that segment that just aired on BB and Mangini? lol

[MoLewisrocks]

Wendy Nix observes incorrect things at times. Hopefully she's right on this one. and if she isn't...who cares??? do the Jets have a shot here? sure..... not a good one tho.

Boomer Esiason said the same thing today, which gives old Wendy some cred. I think Tomase game away from his foray to the Meadowlands with the same gut instinct...

[tatepatsfan]

Did anyone just see the thing on CBS with the dancing Mangini and BB? That may been the dumbest pre-game graphic I've ever seen.

[Patjew]

Holy crap, did anyone see that little "skit" on CBS? Stupid...

[Patjew]

Did anyone just see the thing on CBS with the dancing Mangini and BB? That may been the dumbest pre-game graphic I've ever seen.

Ah, ya just beat me to it!

[Michael]

Mush mouth just said the Patriots are 16-0. He corrected himself right away but, it has GOT to be killing him. :D

[MoLewisrocks]

hahahaha

i cant help but laugh @ the "hope winds are low"

up to 35-40 mph. morning sunshine

Actually according to the local weathermen it's more like 15 with gusts to 30.

You guys are less fans than overstimulated defeatists...

[sebman2112]

Shut up about Mike Vick already!!

[Michael]

Did anyone just see the thing on CBS with the dancing Mangini and BB? That may been the dumbest pre-game graphic I've ever seen.

At least they got a tub of goo to be Mangina's body double.

[Boston Jay]

Interesting.. everyone except Dan said Tennessee took a cheap shot.

[Remix 6]

Actually according to the local weathermen it's more like 15 with gusts to 30.

You guys are less fans than overstimulated defeatists...

im going by what ESPN was mentioning. I read 20-30 mph on weather.com..but i heard up to 40

[rockthecasbah]

Anyone know the sopcast channel?

[tatepatsfan]

At least they got a tub of goo to be Mangina's body double.

Haha my girlfriend's response was "Wow, they made Mangina look really fat"

[SVN]

the stadium seems to have a lot of empty seats.

[CheekyDave]

Anyone know the sopcast channel?

Give this a shot bulldog
:)

sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/39130

[primetime]

the stadium seems to have a lot of empty seats.

Can you blame people for not going?

[sebman2112]

the stadium seems to have a lot of empty seats.

Some people might not have come, but some fans (especially in this kind of weather) won't take their seats until right before the game starts.

[Remix 6]

Some people might not have come, but some fans (especially in thise kind of weather) won't take their seats until right before the game starts.

some people simply cant make it with the weather ..some people dont like the weather and wont try to come. some will come late because traffic/weather slowing them down and some like u said

[Brady to Brown]

Whats the over/under on the fans throwing snowballs at Mangina?

[Gunnails]

Good luck all you Pat homers......

J E T S JETS JETS JETS

[primetime]

Keep the cameras off Mangini! CBS-gate!

[Remix 6]

BB just upset me. no hoodie..but instead..wrapped up in a puffy warm Patriot jacket.

talk about an upset

[PatsSteve1]

That Subway ad with ther ref admitting they blew the call but will make it
up in the 2nd half is pretty funny.

[MrBigglesWorth]

just watch the pats catch the jets with that stand up defense in and go no huddle

[PatsSteve1]

Mangini with the inovative 12 man D

[Remix 6]

Jets Gameplan:
use 12 men on defense..no hope

[SoCalPatsfan90]

Mangini with the inovative 12 man D

Well, how else was he gonna win? lol

[Chris]

was that a stretch play?

[oldskool138]

Is it just me or are the Jets trying to simulate the snap count? I know the Pats have been flagges for that in the past.

[Remix 6]

new season high

2 run plays in a row..then a Brady run

3

what is going on

[MrBigglesWorth]

is it me or i can hear brady's calls clearly? wicked loud

[SoCalPatsfan90]

Pandora's box has been opened... we have more rushing yards then passing LOL...

[D-cleater]

This is going to be Maroney's day if he can avoid the mistakes. Thats two already

[PatsSteve1]

Patriots have run so little they've forgotten how the plays work

[mgm79]

The jets are cheating...you can hear them clearly trying to simulate snap counts. F!ck the refs for not calling that

[frankiesfly]

Patriots look terrible.

[oldskool138]

Nice Special Teams!!!!!

[Remix 6]

This is going to be Maroney's day if he can avoid the mistakes. Thats two already

who said its his mistake? Brady saw something so turned it into an option run where he decided. not sure about second.

[carolinatony]

Just got here. the game is NOT on TV here
Who's not playing?
Is it snowing?
thanks

[frankiesfly]

Patriots have run so little they've forgotten how the plays work

Seriously. Seriously.

[SoCalPatsfan90]

At least the punt was good... lets g D, 3 and out...

[BadMoFo]

Patriots look terrible.

This one's over. :rolleyes:

[oldskool138]

Just got here. the game is NOT on TV here
Who's not playing?
Is it snowing?
thanks

It's not snowing but it's sleeting/raining.

[Remix 6]

hmm..Willie Andrews deserves pro bowl over Izzo..i really believe that

[livinginthe past]

Patriots look terrible.

Troll LOL :D

[D-cleater]

Andrews is a keeper

[frankiesfly]

Just got here. the game is NOT on TV here
Who's not playing?
Is it snowing?
thanks

Cloudy. Thats it. Maybe rain later.

[Seymour93]

Wait... didn't Washington go into the endzone and then down the ball? Or can he do that since we wasn't the first to touch it.

[carolinatony]

"It's not snowing but it's sleeting/raining."

thanks, that's worst than snow

[MrBigglesWorth]

Wait... didn't Washington go into the endzone and then down the ball? Or can he do that since we wasn't the first to touch it.

it was willie andrews then washington

[D-cleater]

who said its his mistake? Brady saw something so turned it into an option run where he decided. not sure about second.

Gino C's opinion, not mine. Said got his signals crossed with Brady on the two plays where brady kept (?)

[frankiesfly]

This one's over. :rolleyes:

I guess to you Brady running the ball was the plan, LOL

[MrBigglesWorth]

awesome play./...geno!!

[frankiesfly]

Thats the way DDDDDDDDDDDD

[livinginthe past]

I guess to you Brady running the ball was the plan, LOL

Troll LOL :D

[PatsSteve1]

Seymour leveled Clemens

[Patriot_in_NY]

Who needs offense..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Remix 6]

people have asked..wheres Seymour..wheres Geno? 2in1 here

KNOCKED DA **** OUT BY BIG SEY AND THEN GENO TAKES IT FOR 6

[MrBigglesWorth]

the d-line looks hungry.... the play before it was warren, now seymour

[Disco Volante]

Awesome!

Snow fireworks, EW becoming the 21st player with a TD. Ayooo.

[frankiesfly]

"It's not snowing but it's sleeting/raining."

thanks, that's worst than snow

The field is good. Just wet. No ice or snow

[D-cleater]

LOL - snowballs. Memories of bruschi doing the power slide vs Miami at home 2004

[Mix]

Nice start for the D :rocker:

[RockyDennis21]

Evans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Patjew]

looked like 2004's D!!

[DaBruinz]

Great play by the Defense... Great play by Willie Andrews to set that up..

Nice to see that Geno's hands haven't become stone.

[BHSL2]

Where are all these whiners? NSA? Frontseven? Mcbee? Oldskool? VJCPatriot? :rolleyes:

[BradyisGod]

Good, 65 points to go!

[Remix 6]

Awesome!

Snow fireworks, EW becoming the 21st player with a TD. Ayooo.

lol out of all the players we've guessed for 21st point..i dont think Geno was mentioned. We heard Troy..Harrison..Jackson

wooooooooooooooooo

[ATippett56]

Good luck all you Pat homers......Is that the quarterback of the future for the Jets?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[SoCalPatsfan90]

Man I really hate CBS for switching to the JAX vs PIT game.

[MrBigglesWorth]

i wonder if BB put in a bunch of new blitzes, and plans to be more aggresive than usual

[wistahpatsfan]

Who's QB of NYJ now?

[carolinatony]

"The field is good. Just wet. No ice or snow"

that's good news

[wistahpatsfan]

Who's QB of NYJ now?Pennington?....YUM! Fresh meat!

[BradyFTW!]

Well, they broke their designated running play for the day. Pats won't get fooled again.

[Seymour93]

The freaking option... in the NFL. They must really be desperate.

[Remix 6]

Is that the quarterback of the future for the Jets?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

if you cant take, you aint a starter in the AFC. Verse us twice a year , we put the hurt on QBs

[D-cleater]

anyone know how bad sanders is and how he got hurt?

[SoCalPatsfan90]

Umm how'd that happen? >.>

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Ugh busted plays kill us...

[BradyFTW!]

Pennington! hellyeah, I guess we don't have to put any safeties back deep now.

[Michael]

Why was he not flagged for flipping the ball like Maroney was earlier this season? Especially where that was blatant :rolleyes:

[MrBigglesWorth]

at least the kicking range has been decreased, so the red zone d will get tested.

[Remix 6]

high school plays wont work more than once.

gtfo

[MrBigglesWorth]

The freaking option... in the NFL. They must really be desperate.

they only have two plays...lol

[wistahpatsfan]

Now Chad! What if he get's hurt?

[BradyFTW!]

Hahaha, well there's the downside of the option. How many more times will the Jets pull that before they realize that there's really no chance?

[SoCalPatsfan90]

nice break on the fumble... knock 'em back a bit.

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Why do we suck on 3rd 18

[D-cleater]

thats so funny. their already resorting to the brad smith plays. this is gonig to be pleasantly ugly

[BradyFTW!]

Now Chad! What if he get's hurt?

Tom Tupa?

10 chars

[BradyisGod]

This reeks of something fishy with all this switching. The Clemens injury was faked :)

[patschick24]

Sit down and shut up!

[MrBigglesWorth]

Why do we suck on 3rd 18

cmon let's be positive..... it's because the pats don't want people to get behind them for the big play.... do you want what cincy does and run man with one deep safety and get burnt?

[BradyFTW!]

Hahaha, who drew that play up for 4th and 2? Newsflash Jets - just ******* run the ball.

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Lucky there, thank Mangini thinks Brad Smith is a better option than Pennington, more like when Parcells thought Ray Lucas was better than O donnel in detroit in 97

[Remix 6]

we hurt QBs ..thats fact

-Pennington
-Losman
-Clemens

i know we placed Big Ben on the injury report with a shoulder..someone else landed on injury report after us as well..forget who.

[Brady_to_Moss]

hahahahahaahahah he cant throw....with him in they only have one dam play...option!!

[Michael]

we hurt QBs ..thats fact

-Pennington
-Losman
-Clemens

i know we placed Big Ben on the injury report with a shoulder..someone else landed on injury report after us as well..forget who.

They hurt Manning's ego too. :D

[Seymour93]

Who's that TE we signed? He's in the game I think. #82.

[Bella*chick]

What the heck were the Jets thinking about And who is that Smith guy?

[BradyFTW!]

we hurt QBs ..thats fact

-Pennington
-Losman
-Clemens

i know we placed Big Ben on the injury report with a shoulder..someone else landed on injury report after us as well..forget who.

I think there's 1 or 2 more than that, not sure though. I guess that's what happens when you have linemen like Warren, Sey, and Wilfork.

[Michael]

Welcome to New England (Brrrrrrrrrr) Randy. :)

[BradyFTW!]

Damn, was that a perfect throw or what?

[Michael]

Did you see that Laurence? Now you do.

[MrBigglesWorth]

what is mangini thinking having his linemen stand up???

[Farpost]

Faulk going to run more than L.M.???

[MrBigglesWorth]

charlie weiss at the stadium?

[wistahpatsfan]

Faulk is the man to run today. He's much harder to tackle and attacks the line much better.

[Patriots Nation NY]

Why are we getting production from the running game all of a sudden? I'm just sayn.. :eek:

[BradyFTW!]

I've already shifted over to "I hope none of our guys get hurt" mode. I don't know if that's ever happened in the first quarter before.


Also, when the Jets are throwing into the wind, what do you think Pennington's upper limit will be in how far he can throw? 10 yards?

[LaBrady]

Also put Ronnie Brown on IR!

[MrBigglesWorth]

Why are we getting production from the running game all of a sudden? I'm just sayn.. :eek:

mangini is keeping his nickle package in...lol

[PatriotNation]

Faulk is a much better back then Maroney.

[Remix 6]

Clemens out of game. Coles out of game. When is it time for Mangini?

[Bella*chick]

Coles out?

[Skree]

Faulk going to run more than L.M.???

He has more than Maroney by 1 yard right now

[Boston Jay]

Dude.. we're like running? Say what? I thought we couldn't do that!

[BradyFTW!]

Nice job by maroney in the backfield.

[SoCalPatsfan90]

It's not that we couldn't.... I think we just didn't :)

[MrBigglesWorth]

it's a definite positive maroney is picking up 3-4 yards every carry, and he had a good pass protection block

[Michael]

Good timing

[BradyFTW!]

Dear Brady,


Don't take anymore hits like that.

Thanks.


-Pats Fans

[D-cleater]

cmon Maroney, lets shut up the haters today. I'm feelin it

[Patjew]

Mike Brady? Tom Vick?

[Sean Pa Patriot]

I think Gaffney now has surpassed Stallworth, Im a Stallworth backer,but Gaffney seems to be playing more than Stallworth

[SoCalPatsfan90]

They gonna go for it 4/2 or take the 3 points?

[Remix 6]

Maroney has definitely made strides in pass protection

starting the Eagles game i think, i've seen him in more on passing downs and he made some nice blocks..great pickups. hes slowly becoming a complete players which will ultimately give him more playing time

[Patsfanin Philly]

smart move on Jets part would have been to call a time out and force Pats to decide, go for it on 4th and 2 or kick Fg into the wind.

[Skree]

Go For it!!!!!!!

[PatsSteve1]

The Bills/Browns game looks like the Snow Bowl game.

[Sean Pa Patriot]

The first down, Brady forced it into moss, Brady's love with Moss sometimes hurts him, Faulk ,welker , gaffney were open...

[Michael]

Dear Brady,


Don't take anymore hits like that.

Thanks.


-Pats Fans

He knows when to slide, but I know what you mean. I think he's trying to scramble too much today anyway. I think they need to remind him it's OK to just throw it away sometimes.

[SoCalPatsfan90]

I'd love to see them go for it.

[BradyFTW!]

I think Gaffney now has surpassed Stallworth, Im a Stallworth backer,but Gaffney seems to be playing more than Stallworth

Gaffney has surer hands, and it seems to me (may be totally off on this), runs better routes. Seems like those skills are slightly more valued in the Pats' O

[Michael]

Saw that coming. Easy FG here.

[Pats Fanatic]

I hate it when they do that. I think just go for it why not.

[SoCalPatsfan90]

I take it they tried to get an offsides?

[Michael]

I hate it when they do that. I think just go for it why not.

Brady STOP IT!!! :eek:

[Remix 6]

i think deep inside..Brady wishes he was faster so eh cna run 1000 yards as well

[SoCalPatsfan90]

woot!

Nice, they went for it!

[mtbykr]

Brady is getting greedy....when Moss is covered throw it to one of the other three open WR's!

[chrisfx811]

The first down, Brady forced it into moss, Brady's love with Moss sometimes hurts him, Faulk ,welker , gaffney were open...

I've seen quite a few plays a game where Brady is guilty of this. But he's still doing all right, I guess. ;)

[unoriginal]

It took him till age 30, but he's finally become a running quarterback.

[SoCalPatsfan90]

Well, normally Moss will come down with it... but seriously we do have other receivers bro... lol

[MrBigglesWorth]

maroney continuing to pick up 3-4 yards a rush

[D-cleater]

sounds like Maroney is running with some authori-tay

[Remix 6]

maroney continuing to pick up 3-4 yards a rush

try 4-5

hmm

[Danny]

Is that a "J-E-T-S, SUCK SUCK SUCK" chant I hear?

[MrBigglesWorth]

give the ball to maroney

[SoCalPatsfan90]

Maroney's @ 4.6ypc atm... very nice!

[daaseallan]

Hey pats fan from Denmark here..

I think it looks like Brady wants Moss to break the record today...

A couple of passes to him with other recievers open..

[BradyFTW!]

I kinda get the sense that Belichick worked 'extra' hard this week to show up mangini. Watching tape for 20 hours per day now, maybe?

[Michael]

Funny how CBS is picking up Brady loud and clear again. I guess Manning is just so soft spoken that's why they didn't pick him up. :rolleyes:

[CheekyDave]

Hey pats fan from Denmark here..

I think it looks like Brady wants Moss to break the record today...

A couple of passes to him with other recievers open..

Welcome!
What city? Kobehavn proper?

[Patsfanin Philly]

I kinda get the sense that Belichick worked 'extra' hard this week to show up mangini. Watching tape for 20 hours per day now, maybe?

4th and 1....smells like play action TD pass to Wes or Randy....

[unoriginal]

Pats just aren't very sharp today.

[MrBigglesWorth]

"it's like being up 20 to nothing"- phil sims on pennington at qb

[daaseallan]

Hey and thanks..

Yes København... or copenhagen :)

[Michael]

Pats just aren't very sharp today.

Uhm it's icy and wet. What are the Jets doing? :rolleyes:

[SoCalPatsfan90]

Well, thats interesting.... I guess 3 points are better then none. I just figured with how the running game is going they woulda gone for it :( oh well lol

[F.B.N.]

Great call letting Ghost kick ... good for his confidence in this weather.

[BradyisGod]

Pats just aren't very sharp today.

Your statements match your screen name.

[MrBigglesWorth]

Pats just aren't very sharp today.

i hope you are being sarcastic or are you serious?

[Pats Fanatic]

Pats just aren't very sharp today.

Oh please with this weather they aren't doing too bad at all.

[Remix 6]

Great call letting Ghost kick ... good for his confidence in this weather.

let him get accustomed through it with playoffs @ Gillette

[Fanfrom1960]

Pats just aren't very sharp today.
It's early, and isn't the weather a factor?

The game is on ESPN radio, at least in Northern California (KNBR 1050) for the TV deprived.

[MrBigglesWorth]

Funny how CBS is picking up Brady loud and clear again. I guess Manning is just so soft spoken that's why they didn't pick him up. :rolleyes:

ya i noticed that.... i guess brady is all miked up

[SoCalPatsfan90]

lol, off topic... 13 yard punt from JAX in PIT...

[livinginthe past]

Pats just aren't very sharp today.

Troll LOL :D

[F.B.N.]

The Snow Bowl will live to infamy.

[BradyFTW!]

"it's like being up 20 to nothing"- phil sims on pennington at qb

Hahaha, yeah, that kicked ass.



Seriously, wtf is the point of broadcasting in HD if the camera lense is going to be covered in rain? Lame.

[F.B.N.]

More like Eckel stood him up.

[F.B.N.]

Freaking frozen noodle soup today.

[Patsfansince96]

here come the radio problems again

[CheekyDave]

Hey and thanks..

Yes København... or copenhagen :)

LOVE your city, great people ,great place!
Its the Danske Higgelag!
Any other Pats fans there?

[carolinatony]

Lets stop them here.

[Remix 6]

"radio frequency isnt working"

come on...lets not start this ****

[CheekyDave]

"radio frequency isnt working"

come on...lets not start this ****

Kenneth??
;)

[F.B.N.]

you suck Hobbs :rofl:

[RhodeIslandArmyPatsFan]

Channel 39130 on Sopcast for anyone else unfortunate enough not to get the NE CBS feed.

[fair catch fryar]

Mangini's gonna have all of his players wearing those little tin-foil hats from the Bang cartoon!:D :D

[MrBigglesWorth]

"radio frequency isnt working"

come on...lets not start this ****

ya no kidding.... never heard this in the pats/colts game.... the media is slective in their stories.

[SoCalPatsfan90]

"radio frequency isnt working"

come on...lets not start this ****

Well, nothing else is working for the Jets...

[F.B.N.]

Noodle sh!t his pants when he saw Vrabel :rofl:

[Skree]

"radio frequency isnt working"

come on...lets not start this ****
Teams are individually responsible for their radio communication to the quarterback - the other team has nothing to do with it. AFAIK

[Patsfansince96]

kevin faulk, the fair catcher

[MrBigglesWorth]

Mangini's gonna have all of his players wearing those little tin-foil hats from the Bang cartoon!:D :D

that's why pennington's frequency isn't working in his helmet.

[Patsfanin Philly]

never saw a punter with a burka before...

[Remix 6]

ya no kidding.... never heard this in the pats/colts game.... the media is slective in their stories.

coincidence that it happens today..maybe BB is just messing with them (joke)

[PatsSteve1]

Chad's helmet radio doesn't work from lack of use

[Patriot_in_NY]

Well, nothing else is working for the Jets...

Hahahahahahaha :singing:

[unoriginal]

Uhm it's icy and wet. What are the Jets doing? :rolleyes:
No, I mean the way Brady is running the offense and the timeouts. A number of poor decisions have been made regardless of weather.

Nice to see me getting called out by 5 people, btw.

[SoCalPatsfan90]

Nice job D on forcing a punt. Lets go O... Put another 7 on the board!

[MrBigglesWorth]

coincidence that it happens today..maybe BB is just messing with them (joke)

ir mangini is telling pennington to make it up so it's a built in excuse.

[BradyFTW!]

Teams are individually responsible for their radio communication to the quarterback - the other team has nothing to do with it. AFAIK

Correct, I believe. It's booth-to-coach that the stadium controls.