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Old 12-15-2007, 06:14 AM
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Default stallworth goes to FA, pats draft Desean Jackson?

Do you think Desean Jackson can replace stallworth?

Stallworth was a 13 pick in the 1st round in 2002, Desean Jackson is touted at around 7-10.

Stallworth during the scouting combine ran a 4.25, 40.

How is Jackson's speed do you think he can run a 4.25 seconds?

The ravens, are drafting at the 7th spot, and the top 5 have DE, and DTs so the ravens being a defensive team, they might trade up with the pats to take the 2nd pick and grab Dorsey or gholston?

In the 7th spot the patriots can grab the first Safety to go Kenny Phillips.
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Default Re: stallworth goes to FA, pats draft Desean Jackson?

The Pats are not going to draft a WR in the first round even if the Stallworth leaves (which I expect) I think they will give C. Jackson a shot there before they go after another rookie WR
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Default Re: stallworth goes to FA, pats draft Desean Jackson?

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Do you think Desean Jackson can replace stallworth?

Stallworth was a 13 pick in the 1st round in 2002, Desean Jackson is touted at around 7-10.

Stallworth during the scouting combine ran a 4.25, 40.

How is Jackson's speed do you think he can run a 4.25 seconds?

The ravens, are drafting at the 7th spot, and the top 5 have DE, and DTs so the ravens being a defensive team, they might trade up with the pats to take the 2nd pick and grab Dorsey or gholston?

In the 7th spot the patriots can grab the first Safety to go Kenny Phillips.
and u were probably a Ted Ginn basher. yes Jackson is more polished but he has work to do(a lot) and u wanna pick him about same spot as Ginn got picked after we already have the best WR corp
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Old 12-15-2007, 09:32 AM
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Default Re: stallworth goes to FA, pats draft Desean Jackson?

I'd honestly be surprised if BB ever drafts another WR high, given that...

- Statistically, WR is the riskiest position to draft across the league
- For Pats draftees in particular, there has been absolutely no relationship between the draft position of WRs and their production
- The Pats have done better trading picks for veteran WRs than drafting rookies at comparable draft points
- This year they seemed to simply give up on college WRs in disgust!

WR draftees under BB:

Chad Jackson drafted #36
Bethel Johnson drafted #45
Deion Branch drafted #65
P.K. Sam drafted #164
David Givens drafted #253
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Old 12-15-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: stallworth goes to FA, pats draft Desean Jackson?

DeSean doesn't impress me. Sure, he's as fast as hell, and remarkably agile, but really, he reminds me most of Raghib Ismail. And we don't need to draft a Kick Returner that high.
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Old 12-15-2007, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: stallworth goes to FA, pats draft Desean Jackson?

I still believe that McFadden is more of a smokescreen in order to trade down. If you are successful in trading down, I can see you drafting an Inside Linebacker, maybe Conner, or Laurentis. The reason is there is some age at LB. Kenny Phillips is a possibility due to Asante Samuel possibly leaving in free agency, or even to replace Rodney Harrison. I keep hearing Chris Long DE Virginia is also a possibility, but not sure if you really need help at DE.
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Default Re: stallworth goes to FA, pats draft Desean Jackson?

Why take DeSean Jackson at #7 when we can trade down to #9 and take Ted Ginn?
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Default Re: stallworth goes to FA, pats draft Desean Jackson?

DeSean isn't predicted anywhere near 7-10 level from everything I've heard. He's a fringe first rounder. He doesn't make a lot/any sense on the Patriots, to the point where we might not pick him with our 2nd rounder.
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Default Re: stallworth goes to FA, pats draft Desean Jackson?

well if the pats goe undefeated and win the superbowl and stallworth leaves for FA, then it only makes sense to draft a WR to replace stallworth. Why fix something that is not broken, just replace the batteries(stallworth).

Gafney might win out stallworth's position and chad jackson might step up one slot in depth.

If BB wont draft a WR that high up, then why did he go and grab stallworth who was once a 1st round 13th pick? He would go and grab a 2nd round WR some vanilla guy.
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Default Re: stallworth goes to FA, pats draft Desean Jackson?

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well if the pats goe undefeated and win the superbowl and stallworth leaves for FA, then it only makes sense to draft a WR to replace stallworth. Why fix something that is not broken, just replace the batteries(stallworth).

Gafney might win out stallworth's position and chad jackson might step up one slot in depth.

If BB wont draft a WR that high up, then why did he go and grab stallworth who was once a 1st round 13th pick? He would go and grab a 2nd round WR some vanilla guy.
It doesn't make sense at all to draft a replacement for Stallworth. Firstly, there's not much room. Moss, Gaffney, Welker, Jackson and 2 guys on the practice squad who looked good. Plus the offense is kind of tricky, hard to tell if a college player will be able to grasp it or not. So it would be a crapshoot.

There are actual positions of need to draft where a rookie could come in and contribute. WR isn't really one of them.

Why did he [sign] Stallworth who was a 1st round pick....his being picked in the first is irrelevent. Welker was undrafted. So if he leaves, I guess they'll have to get another undrafted guy to replace him, right? Does that make any sense at all? None that I can see.

He picked up Stallworth because he thought he was a talented receiver who could learn the offense, I guess. He'd been in the league for a few years so there was a track record. Rookies in college don't have much of a track record as to how they'll learn a system. The college game is much simpler than the pros.

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